OpenClassAlum Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: As a former member of a Corps that would now be Open Class, I will point out that we liked being on same sheets as World Class; we wanted to know how we measured up. And there was one time a judge called it as he saw it and had us 0.5 behind Phantom in percussion. Critique was raucous that night but he stood his ground. Open class has been on the same judge sheets since 2011. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 23 hours ago, OpenClassAlum said: Seems like a smart move, but just another sign that some of these world class corps should really be open class (and open class competition would benefit from it!). financially it would drastically change everything Surf does...and probably put them under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 23 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said: BITD when DCI had ‘Class A’ & ‘A-60’ were those Corps paid for performances? Or was ‘Open Class doesn’t get paid’ a result of a more recent decision? Ironically, I recall in ‘Brass Roots’ video Don Warren & George Bonfiglio stating that the Corps weren’t getting paid by AL, VFW, etc and this was why they started DCI. And now DCI doesn’t pay roughly half its Corps. Hmmm. DCI seems to have become what they were created to put an end to. Just like the end of Animal Farm - you cannot tell the difference between the pigs and the humans. Some Corps are indeed more equal than others. In DCM in the early 80s I know we didn’t get paid much, like $250 for a field show, which our manager said more or less paid for the busses. But it was something. Phantom, Madison, Cavies I’m sure got paid more. But DCM paid every participant something (based on previous year’s placement). Most shows had a parade, that paid about $150 more (I don’t think that money was laundered through DCM). few parades pay like they used to. the economics of the game changed, and the fee structure for OC was determined by the OC corps. So they only have themselves to blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 12 hours ago, MikeN said: No corps is going to willingly give up their DCI membership and tour appearance fees. It's *never* happened. Pioneer, despite the grumbling behind the scenes from literally everyone in drum corps, kept their WC status until health and safety scandals hit, and the corps was expelled before they ever got to OC. DCI is accommodating to a fault to it's member corps. They can rearrange tour schedules, assist with logistics, even help corps get loans if the org so chooses, in order to help build for future success. Open Class and SoundSport... well, if your director makes a social media post that offends, you lose your access. (See: Arsenal) But that's a whole other story. Mike for several years some West Coast WC corps did a limited touring schedule and no one complained. PC and Mandarins if i recall correctly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 This is cool; "Mobile Music Lab" https://jerseysurf.org/news/jersey-surf-unveils-mobile-music-lab-project/?fbclid=IwAR1yAUclwqLxhEz8NXduMjPuwUSs1BSxlPZLR6gYmhA9_gQ-bCNgKzr8Q1g 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, keystone3ply said: This is cool; "Mobile Music Lab" https://jerseysurf.org/news/jersey-surf-unveils-mobile-music-lab-project/?fbclid=IwAR1yAUclwqLxhEz8NXduMjPuwUSs1BSxlPZLR6gYmhA9_gQ-bCNgKzr8Q1g Very cool especially if it can create revenue as well as awareness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheherazadesghost Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, keystone3ply said: This is cool; "Mobile Music Lab" https://jerseysurf.org/news/jersey-surf-unveils-mobile-music-lab-project/?fbclid=IwAR1yAUclwqLxhEz8NXduMjPuwUSs1BSxlPZLR6gYmhA9_gQ-bCNgKzr8Q1g I'm gaga over this. It's exactly the kind of inventiveness that's needed. And it's much easier to get seed funding for something like this than drum corps directly. Best wishes to Surf with this project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjoakes Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 10 hours ago, keystone3ply said: This is cool; "Mobile Music Lab" https://jerseysurf.org/news/jersey-surf-unveils-mobile-music-lab-project/?fbclid=IwAR1yAUclwqLxhEz8NXduMjPuwUSs1BSxlPZLR6gYmhA9_gQ-bCNgKzr8Q1g Thanks for the link. Very cool idea. This, and the announcement of the tour change, leaves me with a good impression of JS leadership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Oh that mobile lab is a very cool idea. After Crown's "show app" i keep waiting for some corps to work with an app developer and make one of those sampling/noodling apps only with tracks using brass and percussion bits. Throw that out there to the digitial generation on phones and let them create loops and stuff that explore the range of brass and percussion ensemble sounds like some of the digital music things do for electronic music. Surf may be the one to jump for such an innvoation actually. This lab is a super cool thing and they were on board for that drumcorps take of a pop song awhile back too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVG_DC Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 This is the video. Now imagine an app that lets you noodle around with samples and make loops that use brass and percussion riffs to make tunes. I think the reach into younger generations with a sense "see what cool things this instrumentation can do" might widen the reach of the appeal of Drum Corps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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