WildcatMello Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 19 minutes ago, NewArpege said: Think you are onto something. Crown was the only show up there with an in incomplete package: no clear characters to tie to storyline together and no final conclusion. I also think their Brass was off last night. When I was listening, I kept thinking they sounded meager compared to their previous show. Regardless, they got some great feedback on judges tapes last night. Use it and maximize the show. I think you are right that BAC is going to be limited on where they can add, but this show can grow by leaps and bound quickly. So heads up to all. It’ll be ok. Btw. Curious what it’ll take for Crown to move up in captions for percussion and guard? They were killing it last night. Yeah, they weren't as loud and didn't seem quite as confident as the other corps brass. But I think it's just because the book is much harder from the get go. They'll get there though, we know they're capable of it. I know everyone on here as been raving about the music they're playing in the last act, but it didn't feel as impactful as others. Lots of running notes and it sounds neat but not really sure if it ties into the mood I'd expect for the closer. But again, it's not finished. The drill they do in the closer didn't help them any either. These are things that one can nitpick about constantly, but in the end we know they'll pull it together. Not really a percussion guy so I'm not really sure what needs to be done there...But to me percussion book is very unique. it felt like it was on a different level...not good or bad, but maybe it's style. I wish I had more insight than that. The guard was really good, so much better of a run last night than they had at BA in 23. Only caught one rifle drop this year. I liked their outfits so much more as well. it seemed this year all the guard from all those seven corps last night looked really good. I think the flags they used could have been a bit more dramatic. I wish they had used a different one during the ballad. Twas a bit underwhelming when compared to the top three corps guard used during their ballads. That is all very picky on my part and I can't really stand by those words as I'm not as familiar with those captions. I'm hoping they use more of the big prop in the closer. I have a few ideas for how they could complete the entire package. Just my own imagination without any clue what they'll actually do. I won't really go into my ideas unless asked specifically. it doesn't matter and I would rather focus on what they'll actually do rather than imprint my own thoughts and waste space on the thread. Again, really liked the show but at the moment it doesn't quite have the punch I expected. Everything except the brass was much better this year at BA compared to last year. The spacing issues aren't as noticeable, nor do they have holes. The guard is better for certain, the brass book is so much harder. Was hoping for the infamous mello like from last year. It was twice in a row in 12 and 13 and I thought maybe it could be used again somehow for this show. I'm not worried, they'll clean everything up and, I wouldn't say I'm 100% confident of this but I can see them passing BAC again by finals because of all the stuff they're going to add, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terri Schehr Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 7 minutes ago, NewArpege said: I have mixed feelings. Do we want all corps doing the same thing? Crown is the only one in the top 5 doing anything remotely different. Leadership needs to think about it, for sure. But there’s something being lost not seeing much marching in many of the top shows. I’m with you. I love marching. I miss those cream pants of Cadets running across the field. But I think there’s a new flavor in mode now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadisonBandMan1 Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 I watched last nights show but passed out right after because I was exhausted. Watched again this morning. Frankly, as much as I don’t want to admit this, the high brass is struggling right now - particularly the trumpets. Tone, attacks, clarity, intonation, and “heros” are all problems that I heard and have been hearing from them all season. I really really hope they can clean that up in the next few weeks before finals. I think Harloff needs to spend a lot of time with them as a section the next few weeks. The new additions were cool though. I’d love to see them add more for San Antonio, but I’m not sure they are ready. Maybe Atlanta. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewArpege Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 13 minutes ago, MadisonBandMan1 said: I watched last nights show but passed out right after because I was exhausted. Watched again this morning. Frankly, as much as I don’t want to admit this, the high brass is struggling right now - particularly the trumpets. Tone, attacks, clarity, intonation, and “heros” are all problems that I heard and have been hearing from them all season. I really really hope they can clean that up in the next few weeks before finals. I think Harloff needs to spend a lot of time with them as a section the next few weeks. The new additions were cool though. I’d love to see them add more for San Antonio, but I’m not sure they are ready. Maybe Atlanta. You are right. You can hear the high brass issues pretty well on the YT vid from the front row. I suspect they are going to fix the caption issues this week before adding more. A win for them in SA would be significant ally narrowing that gap between them and 2/3. That right there could add back .7-.9 into the score if they get brass performing a highest level. That’ll put them them back in a more competitive spot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsxanax Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 This will surely reveal my ignorance on the sheets, but if Crown's brass book is such a heavy lift, why aren't content numbers higher? This is asked by someone that embraces any and all knowledge on any topic that will increase his understanding of the activity. Feel free to truth bomb at will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContraFart Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, nsxanax said: This will surely reveal my ignorance on the sheets, but if Crown's brass book is such a heavy lift, why aren't content numbers higher? This is asked by someone that embraces any and all knowledge on any topic that will increase his understanding of the activity. Feel free to truth bomb at will... The judging apologists will say that "the difficulty is not readable yet" or something like that, but I think its all hogwash 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSnareDrummer Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 25 minutes ago, nsxanax said: This will surely reveal my ignorance on the sheets, but if Crown's brass book is such a heavy lift, why aren't content numbers higher? This is asked by someone that embraces any and all knowledge on any topic that will increase his understanding of the activity. Feel free to truth bomb at will... Don't feel bad. I have basically zero understanding of what the sheets call for and what it all means. If I like a show, feel entertained and it scored well, great, I'm happy. I don't question judge's decisions very often. I mean, surely they know what they're doing, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Don-O Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 minutes ago, OldSnareDrummer said: Don't feel bad. I have basically zero understanding of what the sheets call for and what it all means. If I like a show, feel entertained and it scored well, great, I'm happy. I don't question judge's decisions very often. I mean, surely they know what they're doing, right? I don't pretend to understand the sheets or have any sort of music degree. However I do know what entertains and delights me as novice trumpet player and drum corps fan of 40 years. Bluecoats this year hit me in all the right spots. They have a terrific full, balanced sound. Their music is chock full of intersting rhythms, exposed entrances, tons of interplay between the sections. Their music shows many different techniques. They have sections where the soloists shine, they have segments that highlight dissonance, and they aren't afraid to let the silences be as much a part of music as the notes, or embrace pianissimo as much as fortissimo. That's making music, not just demonstrating technique. My favorite brass line of all time is '91 Blue Devils. This year, Bluecoats' treatment of Dymaxion feels like it could have come right out of that show. Should they have won high brass last night? I don't know. But I can say I'm glad they did. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorWay Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I think the entire design staff needs to be let go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsxanax Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 46 minutes ago, OldSnareDrummer said: Don't feel bad. I have basically zero understanding of what the sheets call for and what it all means. If I like a show, feel entertained and it scored well, great, I'm happy. I don't question judge's decisions very often. I mean, surely they know what they're doing, right? Such is the crux of an activity, whereby so much subjectivity is baked into the formula for determining winners and losers. As a lifelong fan, you have to make peace with that element from the get go. To quote George C. Scott in "Patton," " I love it. God help me, I do love it so." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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