SoA/DCI Lawsuit Update

[FormerXyloWhiz]

19 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:

This, even if legal standard, flies in the face of remedy due to victims for action/inaction already acknowledged by DCI and SOA.

Not all victims actually have remedy at the end of the day.  Sad, but reality.  Plaintiff has sued and Defendant is defending themselves.  That's how this is supposed to go when there is a dispute, no end-run around it.

[IllianaLancerContra]

7 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Not all victims actually have remedy at the end of the day.  Sad, but reality.  Plaintiff has sued and Defendant is defending themselves.  That's how this is supposed to go when there is a dispute, no end-run around it.

I am very curious what the plaintiff’s desired outcome is in this case.  
 

With Cadets/DCI it is clearly financial, but with SoA/DCI I don’t think that it has been publicly stated.  This is why I want to see what the lawsuit actually says.  

[Jeff Ream]

lawyers gonna lawyer. interesting defense from SoA

[FormerXyloWhiz]

5 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

I am very curious what the plaintiff’s desired outcome is in this case.  
 

With Cadets/DCI it is clearly financial, but with SoA/DCI I don’t think that it has been publicly stated.  This is why I want to see what the lawsuit actually says.  

It's financial.  It's a civil action.  All civil actions are financial at the end of the day.

[IllianaLancerContra]

41 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

It's financial.  It's a civil action.  All civil actions are financial at the end of the day.

Ok -thanks

If this makes it to court (assuming no settlement) will the various legal documents, discovery, etc become public knowledge?   
 

ETA - same question applies to Cadets/DCI lawsuit. 

Edited May 3, 2024 by IllianaLancerContra

[scheherazadesghost]

1 hour ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Not all victims actually have remedy at the end of the day.  Sad, but reality.  Plaintiff has sued and Defendant is defending themselves.  That's how this is supposed to go when there is a dispute, no end-run around it.

I'm not speaking to the legal system, which regularly fails victims because there are rarely compassionate mechanisms in place for remedy.

I'm saying that international safeguarding standards require that organizations provide internal mechanisms for remedy. This is something I'm under the impression that SOA could build towards, given that they're the only org with an executive level safeguarding officer.

Edit to add: I also refuse to believe that just because the broken legal system can't provide remedy that we can't work towards finding better solutions in this activity. Other and international sports are already doing that, we just have to apply what they've learned. One benefit of doing so would be avoidance of the broken legal system. Victims don't keep pushing if they've been provided remedy.

Edited May 3, 2024 by scheherazadesghost
so many typos

[FormerXyloWhiz]

41 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Ok -thanks

If this makes it to court (assuming no settlement) will the various legal documents, discovery, etc become public knowledge?   
 

ETA - same question applies to Cadets/DCI lawsuit. 

Discovery isn't technically made public.  But various items from discovery often are put forward as evidence at trial in exhibits.  Anything like that which isn't sealed confidential by the Court could become public. 

[IllianaLancerContra]

3 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Discovery isn't technically made public.  But various items from discovery often are put forward as evidence at trial in exhibits.  Anything like that which isn't sealed confidential by the Court could become public. 

Thank you counselor. 

[FormerXyloWhiz]

Just now, IllianaLancerContra said:

Thank you counselor. 

Appreciate the attempted promotion but screw that.  I see Lawyer hours face to face everyday.  Hard pass.  At 5:00 I gotta leave work and leave it all behind for my own mental health.  🤪

[IllianaLancerContra]

18 minutes ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Appreciate the attempted promotion but screw that.  I see Lawyer hours face to face everyday.  Hard pass.  At 5:00 I gotta leave work and leave it all behind for my own mental health.  🤪

Agree that the promotion sometimes isn’t worth the pain it brings with it.