SoA/DCI Lawsuit Update

[IllianaLancerContra]

28 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:

Allow me to clarify.

What I've posted was dated between Nov 16-Dec 6 2023. Since that time there have been many listed "events" on the case, including summons, certificates of service, certificates of service of discovery, complaints and amended complaints with jury demands, answers with jury demands, state court jury demand - 12 jurors, answers to amended complaints, and even a "consent order- case MGT dates/deadline" ... and more. The latest of these was a certificate of service of discovery on 3/1/2024. Nothing since that date.

McKenzee has left breadcrumbs in this thread and on reddit as to how to access this public information... that's why I didn't include the above. It's easy to access. Hope this helps.

Sounds like lots of billable hours.  
 

 

[scheherazadesghost]

37 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Sounds like lots of billable hours. 

Wake me when it comes close to the amount of hours victims have toiled with their adverse outcomes of abuse in DCI corps. Or just even one corps. Or just even one victim.

[Jeff Ream]

On 5/3/2024 at 10:40 PM, HockeyDad said:

This activity is about 20 years behind the Catholic Church. It’s disgusting that people would continue to defend the likes of Spirit or Cadets or SCV. The rot is deep. No one dares mention the ex director of Cavies/SCV. Why?  It sickens me. DCI has been negligent and cowardly. Oh, all we do is organize the tour. Well, how is that going. All the “TBD” contests.  So sad. 

because without a victim coming forward, no one wants to get sued. and if rumors are true, NDA's made sure victims won't come forward

[scheherazadesghost]

17 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:

because without a victim coming forward, no one wants to get sued. and if rumors are true, NDA's made sure victims won't come forward

I don't see how such an "agreement" could have been signed without being under duress, given the power differential. That would make it unenforceable, amirite?

[HockeyDad]

8 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

because without a victim coming forward, no one wants to get sued. and if rumors are true, NDA's made sure victims won't come forward

Sign an NDA and you can’t report illegal activity?  That doesn’t sound right. 

[FormerXyloWhiz]

3 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:

Sign an NDA and you can’t report illegal activity?  That doesn’t sound right. 

If there's a financial payout, the nature of the NDA could be along the lines of forfeiting your right to the money obtained if you go public.  So you "can" go public and report to the authorities and all of that sure, but if you do they may try to get their money back out of you.  Either way - it's crap in my opinion for this sort of thing.  In my experiences I don't know how enforceable such an agreement would be.  At the end of the day - it would be hush money. 

[IllianaLancerContra]

9 hours ago, scheherazadesghost said:

Wake me when it comes close to the amount of hours victims have toiled with their adverse outcomes of abuse in DCI corps. Or just even one corps. Or just even one victim.

I agree with you on the toll abuse takes on victims.  
 

My (attempted) point was that DCI/SoA are racking up the legal bills.   Cadets folded because of their legal bills.  How much more hemorrhaging money to law firms can the activity afford?   And to allow incidents to happen in 2021, 4 seasons after the Hopacalypse, and after DCI started to concern itself with member safety?  Put 50+ teenagers-21 yr olds on a bus with no adult supervision and assume nothing could happen?  What in Gods Green Earth were they thinking?   If it costs them beaucoup $, well maybe that is what it will take to get everyone’s attention.  

 

[FormerXyloWhiz]

1 minute ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

I agree with you on the toll abuse takes on victims.  
 

My (attempted) point was that DCI/SoA are racking up the legal bills.   Cadets folded because of their legal bills.  How much more hemorrhaging money to law firms can the activity afford?   And to allow incidents to happen in 2021, 4 seasons after the Hopacalypse, and after DCI started to concern itself with member safety?  Put 50+ teenagers-21 yr olds on a bus with no adult supervision and assume nothing could happen?  What in Gods Green Earth were they thinking?   If it costs them beaucoup $, well maybe that is what it will take to get everyone’s attention.  

 

Depends on whether or not their respective insurance companies are providing the defense.  If yes - they aren't out of pocket on the billable hours at all.  If no - ouch.

[IllianaLancerContra]

Just now, FormerXyloWhiz said:

Depends on whether or not their respective insurance companies are providing the defense.  If yes - they aren't out of pocket on the billable hours at all.  If no - ouch.

Not a Counselor-

Is it safe to assume that that if insurance is paying, that insurance rates in future could increase?  I can also envision a scenario where the insurance company puts words in the policy to limit their liability if Corps doesn’t adhere to a strict member safety standard.  

[FormerXyloWhiz]

3 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Not a Counselor-

Is it safe to assume that that if insurance is paying, that insurance rates in future could increase?  I can also envision a scenario where the insurance company puts words in the policy to limit their liability if Corps doesn’t adhere to a strict member safety standard.  

If insurance pays out, their rates will definitely rise in the future.  As to whether they have coverage for the incident, that's going to depend on the literal policy language, can only speculate there.