Drum Corps AF Minisode: Member Safety – SCV

[Jeff Ream]

14 minutes ago, Ashontheinternet said:

medical neglect is abuse. not every victim of abuse responds to it the same way. some people will totally block out the emotional turmoil.

these people from scv care about scv and dci, hence why they are not trying to take legal action or whatever. again, speaking out about negative experiences *is* good. 

if the person from scv had a broken foot, the staff should not make them march. if the person from crown had a leg injury, they should not march. these are preventative measures to ensure these young people are healthy going into the future. these people are not trying to tear anything down, they're trying to build a better and safer environment so that drum corps remains a positive space. 

if my high school marching band could take member health and safety into consideration, so can these world class drum corps. 

furthermore, you mention earlier, as a completely boggling defense, that "some of these corps didn't have medical staff," how does that make anything better or justifiable? again, neither did my high school, but when we had a student dislocate his knee, we called for an ambulance. 

medical neglect IS abuse. it always has been. time period does not change this. so many young marchers who participated in drum corps or even high school band have suffered life altering injuries, no matter how minor they may be, at the hands of medical neglect. 

not to mention as well, but they even talk about the staff being highly critical and inflammatory regarding guard members weight. that's absurd in any regard. it's one thing to want to keep students in good health, it's another to take their cookies, criticize underweight student's food consumption, and encourage unhealthy and unrealistic weight standards, all while working these kids to the bone in the one of most physically demanding activities a young person can do. THAT is abuse. through and through.

kids these days arent being soft for expecting our team activities to account for our health and safety. suffering is a necessary thing to help people develop, but leave the suffering to things like loss in the family, and keep the suffering out of our youth team activities. 

i truly wish you could see it this way.

kids these days are being smart for advocating for themselves

[Sideways]

I mean who didn’t march back in the 90s with three hour visual blocks and no water breaks?

Edited August 29, 2025 by Sideways
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[IllianaLancerContra]

On 8/29/2025 at 4:39 PM, Sideways said:

I mean who didn’t march back in the 90s with three hour visual blocks and no water breaks?

Anyone remember salt pills?

[Sideways]

45 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Anyone remember salt pills?

From drum corps no, from Ironman training I would take those by the hour.

[Slingerland]

1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Anyone remember salt pills?

Anyone from the 70s, no doubt, along with nearly passing out from shock when a corps mom or dad would sneak up behind you while at parade rest on a 90 degree parade day with an ice cold washcloth slapped to the back of your neck, whether you wanted it or not.

Edited September 1, 2025 by Slingerland

[greg_orangecounty]

2 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:

Anyone remember salt pills?

Of course. Thirsty from practicing from 10:00 AM to 10:00 PM in 90 degree plus weather?  Here, take a horse sized salt pill. You’re good. 
 

Surprised no one died. 

[cixelsyd]

On 8/27/2025 at 11:02 AM, olddrummer34 said:

For many  that participated - it wasn't abuse

For the one who was denied water at two consecutive water breaks, it was abuse.

[cixelsyd]

On 8/28/2025 at 3:05 PM, olddrummer34 said:

You know that corps didn't have medical staffs back then right?

Calling BS on that.  Even decades earlier, the touring corps (plural) I am familiar with made a point to have someone from a medical profession on the road with the corps.  Although at this point, I should ask - did Vanguard have any such resource in 2003-4-5?  I do not recall that being mentioned in the accounts of what went on in those years.

[Terri Schehr]

23 minutes ago, cixelsyd said:

Calling BS on that.  Even decades earlier, the touring corps (plural) I am familiar with made a point to have someone from a medical profession on the road with the corps.  Although at this point, I should ask - did Vanguard have any such resource in 2003-4-5?  I do not recall that being mentioned in the accounts of what went on in those years.

We had a nurse all three years I marched Guardsmen.  In 78, I remember having a doctor checking all of us when we had a bug going through the corps. 

Going further back, many of got sick in 1973 after returning from New Orleans to Loves Park for the IDBCA show. We were taken to the hospital and examined by doctors. 

[Jeff Ream]

1 hour ago, cixelsyd said:

Calling BS on that.  Even decades earlier, the touring corps (plural) I am familiar with made a point to have someone from a medical profession on the road with the corps.  Although at this point, I should ask - did Vanguard have any such resource in 2003-4-5?  I do not recall that being mentioned in the accounts of what went on in those years.

we had people with a DCA corps. weekend only stuff