The most CONTROVERSIAL second place show ever…

[greg_orangecounty]

On 10/9/2025 at 8:17 PM, wolfgang said:

So I'll go back to square one. In 1972 when Anaheim Kingsmen came from behind and won the first finals, was that controversial for the second place corps?

We were on fire that night in Whitewater.  Gail Royer knew who should have won.  

[greg_orangecounty]

On 10/11/2025 at 11:35 AM, Tim K said:

I know George Bonfiglio questioned Kingsmen’s win at CYO Nationals and after a quick search on DCX prior to finals Kingsmen had not topped Santa Clara or Blue Stars.

The things you learn 53 years after the fact.  I've never heard this before.  We beat 27th on their own turf by a wide margin (3+ points).  In fact, it was by a wide margin every time we met.  

No shade to 27th.  I loved them and almost became one in 1975. 

[OldSnareDrummer]

13 hours ago, greg_orangecounty said:

The things you learn 53 years after the fact.  I've never heard this before.  We beat 27th on their own turf by a wide margin (3+ points).  In fact, it was by a wide margin every time we met.  

No shade to 27th.  I loved them and almost became one in 1975. 

While looking deeper into this, I came across this fascinating read. 

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.marching.drumcorps/c/jFYCxjF4A8M

[84BDsop]

On 10/19/2025 at 12:00 PM, Jeff Ream said:

 

like a moth to flame

Death, taxes, and me responding to any mention of 84!

[wolfgang]

13 hours ago, 84BDsop said:

Death, taxes, and me responding to any mention of 84!

Didn't BD have only one or 2 sets during La Fiesta while Garfield was in constant motion pretty much the whole show?

[OldCorpsGuy]

8 hours ago, wolfgang said:

Didn't BD have only one or 2 sets during La Fiesta while Garfield was in constant motion pretty much the whole show?

Technically yes, but that was at a time where a “concert “ piece was still acceptable. Garfield was basically the only corps that didn’t have an extended stand still. 

[Jeff Ream]

5 hours ago, OldCorpsGuy said:

Technically yes, but that was at a time where a “concert “ piece was still acceptable. Garfield was basically the only corps that didn’t have an extended stand still. 

yup. Cadets were zagging, everyone else was still zigging

[ChiBoyinLA]

OP spelled 1993 wrong

[OldCorpsGuy]

56 minutes ago, ChiBoyinLA said:

OP spelled 1993 wrong

Oh god please don’t open up THAT can…..

[84BDsop]

On 10/22/2025 at 8:58 PM, wolfgang said:

Didn't BD have only one or 2 sets during La Fiesta while Garfield was in constant motion pretty much the whole show?

Yep...but back then  everyone had a standstill concert -- except for Garfield.  They were the first of the new school move-most-of-the-time shows...we ere the last of the old concert-era.