Tim Snyder Threatens Over Fair Use

[KVG_DC]

HornRank forums LIT UP when semis awards did not stream and everyone was on edge to see if they made finals or not.  Music for all eventually streamed on their Facebook and blamed an "wifi problem" for Box5.  

Whatever Box5 was relying on WiFi to stream something to that many people for in the first place is sort of wild you'd think they'd have a dedicated hardwire for it.

I was sort of on the fence about buying finals but noped out when I heard the refund policy in the instance of an issue was "a discount on a full season subscription next year" or something.  

 

[cixelsyd]

10 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

live only that i am aware of. 

In that case, it does make Flo look like a bargain.

[Jeff Ream]

On 11/26/2025 at 11:02 PM, KVG_DC said:

HornRank forums LIT UP when semis awards did not stream and everyone was on edge to see if they made finals or not.  Music for all eventually streamed on their Facebook and blamed an "wifi problem" for Box5.  

Whatever Box5 was relying on WiFi to stream something to that many people for in the first place is sort of wild you'd think they'd have a dedicated hardwire for it.

I was sort of on the fence about buying finals but noped out when I heard the refund policy in the instance of an issue was "a discount on a full season subscription next year" or something.  

 

that was verified as the venue's issue, not Box5. i got it from reliable sources, and have seen complaints about the venues wifi at other events too. so I'll give Box5 a pass for that.

[Jeff Ream]

On 11/27/2025 at 9:02 AM, cixelsyd said:

In that case, it does make Flo look like a bargain.

yup. so i think once i got the regional in my footprint just to see friends, but otherwise i'll wait for Indy. and for all of the FLo jokes made, they have gotten a LOT better since 21.

[Terri Schehr]

On 11/26/2025 at 6:16 PM, GREENBLUE said:

Someone from Western PA? Haven’t heard that “term” in a long time. Grew up in Pittsburgh before moving to Arizona.

It’s definitely midwestern/ Chicago terminology. 

[Lance]

On 11/26/2025 at 11:59 AM, combia1 said:

Go over to YouTube and search for KPop Demon Hunters reaction videos. Thousands upon thousands of them with millions of views. If Netflix and Sony Animation can't take them down.....

Youtube is not proactive about removing copyrighted videos.  They only act if there's a removal request by the copyright owner.  

The videos you're talking about are being removed constantly, probably in the order in which they're reported.  YT isn't just giving up due to the sheer volume of those vides and they certainly don't look at copyright claims as being "hollow".  They're not stupid enough to open themselves to that kind of litigation.

There's clearly a backlog of dci/boa vids that are being cleaned up because they get removed constantly as well.  

 

Edited December 1, 2025 by Lance

[perc2100]

On 11/26/2025 at 1:26 PM, Slingerland said:

Netflix owns both the IP and the actual film in question. It could be a business decision on their part to allow fan vids to stay up as a way to increase the value of the franchise via very cheap publicity (which I would say is a good business decision, since THEY are the beneficiaries). After all, Netflix' business model is to increase the number of eyeballs on their product.

But if part of the online content includes material owned by other artists or companies who licensed their work for the marching band with fairly tight restrictions regarding how it can be used, then the situation is not really analogous. Simply put, no one has a right to take someone else's property and use it however they want without prior permission.

This could be, along with the "is this really worth the time and legal expenses to go after?"  Awhile back there was a film made call ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW, about a dad who was fired while on a family vacation at Walt Disney World, and throughout the day his mind slowly devolves.  Not only does the film stomp all over Disney IP (to the extent of a 'Disney Princess' prostitution ring is involved, just as one example), but the filmmaker shot the film illegally at Disneyland & Walt Disney World.  It screened at the Sundance Film Festival, and most of the talk was about the gonzo filmmaking and the obviously illegal means the film was shot and conceived; the director talked about editing the film in another country for fear of a US editing facilities getting wind of what he was doing & notifying Disney to end the thing.  Most critics and filmgoers talked about if the film would ever get released in any way, will Disney sue to keep it out of theaters, etc.

And what happened?  Disney simply ignored the film publicly.  They took the stance that it wasn't worth all of the efforts to kill a small movie that most of the general public would never hear existed, and suing the filmmaker would likely have the adverse affect of shining light on film and make it MORE popular: as well as the negative press of "Disney killing the creative little artist" stuff.

And for the most part, Disney's strategy worked out perfect.  The movie got a very minor distribution deal, likely because major and mid-major studios didn't want to risk Disney's wrath, and the movie essentially died with most of the general public unaware it exists.  

So sometimes doing no legal actions is 100% a big corporate strategy for lots of different reasons; and sometimes it's 100% necessary to protect copyright.  Things in this world are rarely, hardly ever, black-and-white

[Jeff Ream]

Funliner on youtube did a breakdown on how Box5 charges for use of clips. interesting watch.

[combia1]

23 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

Funliner on youtube did a breakdown on how Box5 charges for use of clips. interesting watch.

Yeah, I saw that. Excellent video from Funliner. This latest clip licensing scheme from TS sounds sketchy AF. And it sure sounds like BOA wasn’t thrilled with TS throwing them under the bus. 

[Jeff Ream]

4 hours ago, combia1 said:

Yeah, I saw that. Excellent video from Funliner. This latest clip licensing scheme from TS sounds sketchy AF. And it sure sounds like BOA wasn’t thrilled with TS throwing them under the bus. 

yeah i found that really interesting. i did a search and couldn't find anything about MFA suing anyone