Jeff Ream Posted May 1 Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: BRING BACK INSPECTIONS!!! LOL(kinda) inspection couldn't tell who carried a horn to fill a drill hole and who actually played Quote
rollinthrurolls Posted May 1 Posted May 1 10 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: inspection couldn't tell who carried a horn to fill a drill hole and who actually played But they could see, and seek out, microphone on people/instruments. Quote
Lance Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) I'm just bracing myself for pitch correction to start making its way into live sound engineering for shows. I feel like it's inevitable. I finally got around to watching the Wicked movies recently. Every song is pitch corrected to oblivion and it makes ZERO sense. Cynthia Erivo has about as flawless of voice as humanly possible (if you haven't heard her sing "I'm Here" from The Color Purple you're missing out on an all-time great performance), and Ariana Grande's pitch accuracy is also incredible. The amount of pitch correction they did in post is disgusting. Made every song feel inert to me. Same with their "live" special on Disney. There's raw footage of them out there in that performance, and it is spectacular. But the pitch correction in the final production neuters every bit of emotion. This is pervasive in pretty much all popular music now, and since it's pretty much the wild west in DCI when it comes to finding new ways to electronically manipulate sound, it's coming soon I'll reckon. Goes along with my prediction about hornlines shrinking substantially over the next several years. Could help a lot with bringing down touring costs and free up more spots to boost what counts the most on judging sheets. I'm not angry or bitter, just sad. Edited May 1 by Lance 4 Quote
TenHut Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: how do you enforce it though? Caption judges on the field writing down who all wears a mic pack? chief judge walking around counting? The upstairs judges have no way to check that. Ban amplification. Done. No Quote
Jeff Ream Posted May 1 Posted May 1 2 hours ago, rollinthrurolls said: But they could see, and seek out, microphone on people/instruments. so you put a "mic" on every member. did they all use one? Quote
Jeff Ream Posted May 1 Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Lance said: I'm just bracing myself for pitch correction to start making its way into live sound engineering for shows. I feel like it's inevitable. I finally got around to watching the Wicked movies recently. Every song is pitch corrected to oblivion and it makes ZERO sense. Cynthia Erivo has about as flawless of voice as humanly possible (if you haven't heard her sing "I'm Here" from The Color Purple you're missing out on an all-time great performance), and Ariana Grande's pitch accuracy is also incredible. The amount of pitch correction they did in post is disgusting. Made every song feel inert to me. Same with their "live" special on Disney. There's raw footage of them out there in that performance, and it is spectacular. But the pitch correction in the final production neuters every bit of emotion. This is pervasive in pretty much all popular music now, and since it's pretty much the wild west in DCI when it comes to finding new ways to electronically manipulate sound, it's coming soon I'll reckon. Goes along with my prediction about hornlines shrinking substantially over the next several years. Could help a lot with bringing down touring costs and free up more spots to boost what counts the most on judging sheets. I'm not angry or bitter, just sad. if brass line size goes down, guard size will go up 2 Quote
Jeff Ream Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, TenHut said: Ban amplification. Done. No the only official rule DCI ever rescinded was voice. over 40 years ago. 1 Quote
IllianaLancerContra Posted May 1 Posted May 1 46 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said: if brass line size goes down, guard size will go up Been saying for some time that at some point a Corps will try having 15-20 brass, all miked and in pit with 10-12 battery miked in pit, plus the (already) miked pit. And about 100 guard on the field. Quote
Fred Windish Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Help me out here. Is it really progress when your product continuously morphs into something we already have on the shelf from other manufacturers? Not to me. 1 1 Quote
Lance Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said: if brass line size goes down, guard size will go up Yep. That's what I meant by "counts the most on judging sheets". Quote
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