OldCorpsGuy Posted May 5 Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: Because no one wants to watch that anymore? Not trying to be rude, etc, but that is how most feel. I would have never got into the activity if it still looked like it did 20 years before. Well some folks do so…. Oh that’s right well just call them names and exclude them from the activity. That sounds like a great plan. 🤦♂️🙄 Quote
wolfgang Posted May 5 Author Posted May 5 28 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: Because no one wants to watch that anymore? Not trying to be rude, etc, but that is how most feel. I would have never got into the activity if it still looked like it did 20 years before. No one wants to watch what anymore? Don't be shy. Please list the things no one wants to watch. Quote
rollinthrurolls Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Not once did I call any names etc. A "question" was proposed and I offered an answer. And unfortunately, it is true. DCI isn't what it used to be because the majority decided they didn't want it to be that anymore. DCA was dwindling. Alumni corps are dwindling. Modern audiences want modern drum corps. 2 Quote
OldCorpsGuy Posted May 5 Posted May 5 9 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: Not once did I call any names etc. A "question" was proposed and I offered an answer. And unfortunately, it is true. DCI isn't what it used to be because the majority decided they didn't want it to be that anymore. DCA was dwindling. Alumni corps are dwindling. Modern audiences want modern drum corps. You’re assuming that. Many of us feel DCI said “this is what we’re doing. Take it or leave it”. I don’t recall being given a choice. And the majority obviously didn’t decide it since the majority of folks have left the activity. Quote
OldCorpsGuy Posted May 5 Posted May 5 29 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: Not once did I call any names etc. A "question" was proposed and I offered an answer. And unfortunately, it is true. DCI isn't what it used to be because the majority decided they didn't want it to be that anymore. DCA was dwindling. Alumni corps are dwindling. Modern audiences want modern drum corps. And the name thing I didn’t mean you, but in various places when trying to have this discussion if you do not agree this version of DCI is the greatest thing ever, you will be verbally assaulted. 1 Quote
cixelsyd Posted May 6 Posted May 6 4 hours ago, rollinthrurolls said: Not once did I call any names etc. A "question" was proposed and I offered an answer. And unfortunately, it is true. DCI isn't what it used to be because the majority decided they didn't want it to be that anymore. Last I checked, "majority decided" in this context means 10 people. The thousands of participants and spectators were not part of the decision making process. Quote DCA was dwindling. Alumni corps are dwindling. Modern audiences want modern drum corps. Modern audiences, like audiences of any era, want all sorts of things. Some just want to see their family, friends, or favorite corps. Others are diehard fans of the activity. Others were diehard fans of the activity, but still have at least a morbid curiosity. Still others simply live nearby, had that particular evening free, and decided to try something different. And judging from the numbers, a great many have chosen not to be in these "modern audiences". 2 Quote
rollinthrurolls Posted May 6 Posted May 6 10 hours ago, cixelsyd said: Last I checked, "majority decided" in this context means 10 people. The thousands of participants and spectators were not part of the decision making process. Modern audiences, like audiences of any era, want all sorts of things. Some just want to see their family, friends, or favorite corps. Others are diehard fans of the activity. Others were diehard fans of the activity, but still have at least a morbid curiosity. Still others simply live nearby, had that particular evening free, and decided to try something different. And judging from the numbers, a great many have chosen not to be in these "modern audiences". It comes down to this. It isn't what it used to be, and it won't go back. If people really wanted it, "traditional" corps would be popping up. and they aren't. Quote
cixelsyd Posted May 6 Posted May 6 2 minutes ago, rollinthrurolls said: It comes down to this. It isn't what it used to be, and it won't go back. If people really wanted it, "traditional" corps would be popping up. and they aren't. Yes they have. There was no such thing as "alumni corps" until a sufficiently beloved form of drum corps was taken away by sufficiently rapid change. We also had competing corps who took traditional tacks... until DCI scoring, judging and "artistic direction" made it abundantly clear that such an approach would be incompatible with competitive success. You are partly correct about changes typically not going back. But that is partly because "going back" is not a compelling case for change. Change is supposed to move you forward. If people are convinced that a change moved us backward and that repealing it would move us forward, then it could happen. 2 Quote
Jeff Ream Posted May 6 Posted May 6 22 hours ago, cixelsyd said: I have been pondering that question for 100 years. It appears that it is the instrument/equipment suppliers who have lead that trend throughout the entire past century. darn those valves! 1 Quote
Jeff Ream Posted May 6 Posted May 6 19 hours ago, rollinthrurolls said: Because no one wants to watch that anymore? Not trying to be rude, etc, but that is how most feel. I would have never got into the activity if it still looked like it did 20 years before. If older style shows were drawing, the alumni spectacular DCA had would have not broke even at best most years. Quote
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