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Wow - that is great. Thanks for spending the time to do this.

As far as Blue Coats in '99 not making finals - that's my favorite year for them.

Andy

Hey - mine, too. Spanish fantasy was awesome. That list rocks.

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Surprise! Surprise! After a couple hours of calculations...here are the scores based on what I feel is true consistency dating back to 1972. 25 pts went to a first place finish, and 1 point to a 25th place finish...everything else is in between, u can figure it out. How many of you are surprised? look how close 2-4 is and 5-6. Only possible changes this year is PR jumping over Cadets, but I don't think it will happen because honestly I don't see either PR winning or Cadets finishing lower than 5th. Devils and Cavies will move closer to Vanguard, but SCV's lead is so large it could take years for them to drop out of first...

1. Santa Clara- 768

2. Blue Devils- 677

3. Cavaliers-667

4. Madison-657

5. Cadets-616

6. PR-612

Actually, I'm not quite sure how you calculated, but.......

Giving 25 pts. to first place, and so on, while still giving points to corps finishing outside of the top twelve (13th place gets 13 pts., 14th gets 12...), the results actually come out quite different.

SCV - 768

Blue Devils - 752

Cavaliers - 696

Cadets - 693

Phantom - 686

Madison - 678

If a corps finished out of the top 12, I looked at their highest prelims or semis placement. In other words, what was their highest placement at their last show of the year? The only corps that was not given a score for any particular year were the Blue Devils, who did not compete in DCI in 1972. Every other corps was represented in the top 25 every year.

I didn't calculate every other corps on my original list in this manner. That would take quite some time. I do, however, have each decade broken down (with my original calculations), and will post that later, if anyone is interested.

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What might make this more interesting and mathmatically true, instead of just assigning points for placement, take them away if they didn't make finals.

Anybody ever taken the time to actually average every corps final score of the season (wheater it was earned at semis or not?).

Would be interesting to see an average final score for each corps.

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What might make this more interesting and mathmatically true, instead of just assigning points for placement, take them away if they didn't make finals.

Anybody ever taken the time to actually average every corps final score of the season (wheater it was earned at semis or not?).

Would be interesting to see an average final score for each corps.

that would mean kingsmen would have like a -30 or something? how would you calculate that?

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what a cool list!

its interesting to see the fact in there about BK being the corps with the highest score and never to win finals.. i wonder if that will change this year with bluecoats

Actually, the post says the Crossmen are the highest ranking corps of those that haven't won finals. I don't see the Bluecoats winning finals this year....but making stides towards that goal.

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In 2nd place, with a score of 326....

The Santa Clara Vanguard

Vanguard has won DCI six times, placed 2nd six times, and 3rd eight more times. Oh yeah, they're also the only corps to appear in every DCI final.......EVER. There are two corps with more titles, but SCV's consistency is amazing. Arguably the greatest corps ever, by these standards.

And our champion, with a score of 334....

The Blue Devils

BD squeaks out the title here by the slimmest of margins, beating SCV by only eight points. With eleven titles to their credit, the Devils are masters at winning championships. They've also been 2nd six times. That means that out of the 34 DCI finals that have been held, the Blue Devils have held their breath as the last two scores were announced....17 times. Wow.

GO SANTA CLARA!!!! I never knew they were still that high!

And GO CALIFORNIA!!! Between SCV and BD the other states just don't stand a chance - 18 DCI titles in one state (Kingsmen won once)

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here is the complete list for any corps that made top 25 during the DCI ERA. Awarding 25 for first, 24 for 2nd etc...

There have been 103 corps to make the top 25 at DCI championships since 1972.

1 Santa Clara Vanguard 768

2 Blue Devils 752

3 Cavaliers 696

4 Garfield Cadets/ of Bergen County/ The Cadets 693

5 Phantom Regiment 686

6 Madison Scouts 678

7 Crossmen 461

8 Spirit of Atlanta/Georgia 387

9 Bluecoats 334

10 Troopers 333

11 Boston Crusaders 320

12 Blue Knights 279

13 27th Lancers 275

14 Glassmen 256

15 Freelancers 251

16 Colts 229

17 Velvet Knights 199

18 Star of Indiana 187

19 Carolina Crown 186

20 St. Andrews Bridgemen 181

21 Blue Stars 178

22 Sky Ryders 176

23 Magic of Orlando/The Magic 165

24 Suncoast Sound 148

25 Kilties 108

26 DeLaSalle Oaklands/Oakland Crusaders 101

27 Southwind 100

28 Dutch Boy 94

28 Kingsmen 94

30 Imperials of St. Patricks/Pioneer 91

31 Guardsmen 84

32 North Star 79

33 Kiwanis Kavaliers 73

34 Mandarins 72

35 Geneseo/Quad City Knights 66

36 Royal Crusaders 63

37 Muchachos 61

38 Seattle Cascades 57

39 Argonne Rebels 50

39 Marauders 50

41 Black Knights 49

41 Florida Wave 49

43 Toronto/Seneca Optimists 47

44 Les Eclipses 46

45 Capital Regiment 44

46 Avante Garde 37

47 Squires 36

48 Les Etoiles Dorion Vaudreuil 33

49 Commodores 30

50 Academie Musicale 29

51 Des Plaines Vangurd 25

51 L'Insolite 25

53 Purple Lancers 24

54 Pacific Crest 23

54 Patriots 23

54 Defenders 23

54 Valley Fever 23

58 Polish Falcon Cadets 22

59 Alliance (MA) 21

59 Memphis Blues 21

59 Seattle Imperials 21

62 Bleu Raeders 19

62 Offensive Lions 19

64 Precisionnaires 18

65 Spartans (NH) 17

65 Ventures 17

67 Long Island Kingsmen 15

68 Blue Rock 14

69 Royal Brigade 13

70 East Coast Jazz 12

71 Esperanza 11

71 Tarheel Sun 11

71 Argonauts 11

74 Santa Clara Vanguard Cadets 10

74 Marquis 10

74 Percussion-naut Patriots 10

77 Nite Express 9

77 Pembroke Imperials 9

77 Regiment Militaire 9

80 Connexion Quebec 7

80 Saints 7

82 Black Gold 6

83 Jersey Surf 5

83 St. Francis Xavier Sancians 5

85 Cadets of Greece 4

85 Caharioteers 4

85 Northern Aurora 4

85 Wausau Story 4

89 Americanos 3

89 Audubon Bon Bons 3

89 Beverly Cardinals 3

89 California Dons 3

89 General Butler Vagabonds 3

89 San Jose Raiders 3

89 Spartans (WA) 3

89 St. Croix Rivermen 3

97 Canadian Knights 2

97 Florida Vanguard 2

97 Limited Edition 2

97 Pride of Cincinnati 2

101 Emerald Cadets 1

101 Golden Lancers 1

101 Railmen 1

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For those interested in rankings by decades. Here is the top 17 for each decade using the same scoring system.

70's = 72-79

80's = 80-89

90's = 90-99

00's = 2000-2005

70's

1 Santa Clara Vanguard 191

2 Madison Scouts 168

3 Blue Stars 153

4 27th Lancers 152

5 Blue Devils 140

5 Phantom Regiment 140

7 Cavaliers 127

8 Troopers 118

9 Kilties 108

10 DeLaSalle Oaklands/Oakland Crusaders 101

11 Kingsmen 94

12 St. Andrews Bridgemen 93

13 Garfield Cadets/ of Bergen County/ The Cadets 92

14 Freelancers 66

15 Royal Crusaders 61

15 Muchachos 61

17 Guardsmen 59

80's

1 Blue Devils 237

2 Santa Clara Vanguard 235

3 Garfield Cadets/ of Bergen County/ The Cadets 223

4 Madison Scouts 211

5 Phantom Regiment 207

6 Cavaliers 194

7 Spirit of Atlanta/Georgia 176

8 Suncoast Sound 148

9 Crossmen 134

10 Sky Ryders 128

11 27th Lancers 123

12 Freelancers 122

13 Troopers 118

14 Velvet Knights 109

15 Star of Indiana 92

16 St. Andrews Bridgemen 88

17 Bluecoats 59

90's

1 Garfield Cadets/ of Bergen County/ The Cadets 236

2 Blue Devils 233

3 Cavaliers 227

4 Santa Clara Vanguard 214

5 Phantom Regiment 213

6 Madison Scouts 200

7 Crossmen 183

8 Bluecoats 164

9 Blue Knights 162

10 Glassmen 152

11 Magic of Orlando/The Magic 121

12 Boston Crusaders 117

13 Colts 114

14 Star of Indiana 95

15 Carolina Crown 91

16 Velvet Knights 88

17 Spirit of Atlanta/Georgia 85

00's

1 Cavaliers 148

2 Garfield Cadets/ of Bergen County/ The Cadets 142

2 Blue Devils 142

4 Santa Clara Vanguard 128

5 Phantom Regiment 126

6 Boston Crusaders 113

7 Bluecoats 111

8 Madison Scouts 99

9 Glassmen 98

10 Crossmen 97

11 Carolina Crown 95

12 Blue Knights 90

13 Spirit of Atlanta/Georgia 81

14 Colts 70

15 Seattle Cascades 57

16 Southwind 55

17 Mandarins 48

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