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Because I hate to see great ensembles have to deal with Jupiter when they could have alot more potential with other products. And my disposition comes from personal use and simply hearing what ensemble who are on and who are off Jupiter. There is a notable difference. BUT I guess if the corps/ensemble cannot afford other brands/would benefit form having a Jupiter deal it seems that would be the best choice, it just sucks that the sacrifice tends to be the sound of the final product, which is what most people will hear/remember.

false cause? what?

Oh, how could I have been so foolish? What have I done? There are going to be SO MANY RED MARKS for my DCP account. How will I carry on? My fake internet reputation I made yesterday that translates into nothing in the real world is ruined! RUINED!

Is this not the point of a Forum? To post what we feel about about a topic, whether it be positive or negative? I did go straight for a very biased attack like post and I apologize, I only did it in that manner because I felt so passionately about it. And hey, if they google Jupiter Brass now they can see a forum where people have varying opinions on it on the horns, even more in the favor of the company. And how can I burn bridges or get in trouble for a mainly anonymous forum site? Are members and staff from corps are going to be mad at a random nameless guy who will never actually affect them? Are they going to hack my IP address an personal information for having a negative opinion about them? Because that would illegal and pretty ridiculous.

I agree; choosing quantum is a matter of finance, not preference. And I see your point of making it cheaper and more available for kids to play at a student/ intermediate level, that's great. But that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying there is a notable difference of the low level Jupiter when compared to higher quality brands, and when two ensembles compete there is a given advantage before the they even start.

Look I don't go to DCP often, I just wanted to see what people thought on Jupiter as well as state my own opinion. Evidently the people here seem to enjoy the Jupiter sound, which really surprises me, but it is your opinion and you have the right to hold it, as do I for mine. And no, I highly doubt anyone of of real value comes on DCP on a daily base.

And the Quantum line is much lower in quality than its concert line horn line, I have played both- the Quantum series for an entire summer, so I think I can have an opinion

TO MAKE IT CLEAR, I have also marched Quantum Brass for an entire summer last year, so its from experience as well. Don't tell me that those horns are good man, DO NOT.

But at a lot more effort as every other brand. If the same effort going into playing Jupiter horns were put into a more quality horn it would sound fantastic, not just alright.

Have you ever played a Jupiter Quantum trumpet? Have you? Ever? I'm saying that yes EVENTUALLY they will sound alright but not compared to Xenos or Kings with a lot less effort. That is pure fact, no matter what. And who in the hell do you know that marched Jupiter that liked it? Correction, in the high brass?

The low brass are just about alright because the euphonium is Jupiter best product. The high brass is the killer, especially in the trumpet and mellophones. I hate to be biased but have you ever heard of a great hornline that has a B rated trumpet line? No. And I am actually friends with multiple people who marched Jupiters all summer, including the baritone soloist from the Boston Crusaders last year and he said he MUCH rather prefers the King horn they used to use, and having played on the Jupiter horns myself I strongly agree with them. And what other horn did you use that were not as good as a Jupiter?

Hey there, I just want to talk/rant about the fairly new Jupiter Brass presence in DCI. WHY? Why are they trying to make a marching brass line? I mean, I understand a company wanting to branch out to as many musical options, in this case marching brass. But they are just SO BAD. LIKE REALLY BAD. I work at a music store and we carry most brands of brass instruments. I'm a trumpet player and I have to say after playing all the horns on stock (Yamaha, Bach, Conn, King Jupiter is by far the worst horn in the place. I would legitimately call their artisan "professional" horn intermediate horn at best. The tone is crass and thin, intonation is all over the place and the back pressure form playing a single note is INSANE. It takes three times the effort and skill just to get the horn to play at an alright level compared to any other brand of horn. Its really quite ridiculous it is. And hey, normally I wouldn't care about this. Its a growing company that I assume are still trying to improve and experiment with their horns to get the best quality, and I have nothing against that. My problem is why are they trying trying to do a whole new line of marching series when their "professional" stuff is still on a low level of quality? Why? Why not focus ALL of your resources on getting your primary products sounding good before trying to branch out? This brings me to the main point of rant. Why are there top level, world class corps marching flippin' JUPITER? If the high quality Jupiter was weak then why would you agree to use their marching series? Those of which are typically lower quality than their concert or professional horns. My only thought of why a corps would keep using these horns would financial issues (Jupiter being the cheapest) or that they are stuck in some sort of contract, that of which they cannot get out of for some number or years. How about this, what if there was a track runner entering the Olympics, only he was forced to wear ankle braces while the other runners didn't have to. Sure he could eventually get his personal run time down to a reasonable limit, but when it comes to the main event most likely he is going to fall behind compared to the other runners who trained w/o the braces. Or more relatable to the activity; if the guard had rifles and flags that weight twice as much or if the battery's drums were made of particle board and had to use metal stick when you played them. Yes, EVENTUALLY the guard will get used to the tosses and EVENTUALLY the battery will sound clean sounding clean, but its a huge struggle to get there while the other teams don't have to deal with these handicaps. Think about it. Imagine if you took a corps and cloned it to have two completely identical corps competing with each other; the first corps would march lets say Yamaha or King and the second corps will march Jupiter. They would play the same exact show in the same exact way with the same talent of people, but the first corps will always sound and preform better than the second. This is because the second corps is constantly fighting with their equipment and ending up having to work twice as hard to get to the same level as the first; while the corps can put the same effort in and because they reasonable and quality equipment they will sound much better and can focus on perfection, instead having to start miles before the starting line and having to play catch up. So whats the solution to this? Should all corps march on the same equipment? I think that it technically would be the fairest way to do things but I know that wont happen, plus some corps like the sound of certain horns and it gives the corps some of their identity simply they tone they produce. However Jupiter should stop with their quantum marching series and focus on the quality of their own horns, or at least test their products on a lower class corps and ensemble instead of holding back what were usually more successful corps like the Phantom Regiment. END RANT, comment below and discuss.