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  1. Mandarins beating SCV for the first time ever!
    24 points
  2. I might be in the minority, but I would like to hear the corps' full hornline play more often. Most corps start off with a minute or so of some type of movement thing without the horns playing. Then further in the show, there's a solo or small group playing with some more movement things. I know the shows are going more to the visual and away from the music but I think they've gone too far. Thanks for letting me vent.
    23 points
  3. What I believe to be so remarkable about the modern Bluecoats, is that year after year, they continue to put out shows that feel fresh, new, innovative, and yet still uniquely Bluecoats. This show is just a breath of fresh air. The design style is such an iconic era from 2014-2017, and this show is that era on steroids. Some specific thoughts: The opening is so weird and cool and I love it. And I love that those hits make a reappearance later in the show. Doug Thrower's arrangements are as iconic as ever. From the opener to the ballad to the final Son Lux hit, they are once again flexing their prowess in brass arranging. Only the Bluecoats would come up with the idea to mic the color guard during a flag feature. That is such a cool effect. The ballad, oh my gosh, the ballad. I don't how to describe it other than pure bliss. The flow from Agape into Love/Lover/Friend is just breathtaking. I've already shared my thoughts on Dymaxion. 40 trumpets. Enough said. Soloists throughout the show are fire. There is some incredible talent there. The transitions in this show are SEAMLESS and some of my favorite parts of the show, particularly the transition into the ballad. Change Is Everything. I love this show so much.
    23 points
  4. Well Folks, in less than a weeks time the start of the drum corps competitive season will be kicking off. During the off-season I have been thinking about the following items quite a bit. The main thought that has been reoccurring is I really hope people will be a little nicer to each other on DCP and all the various drum corps inter-webs this season. So some of my thoughts and wishes going in to a new season are as follows.....Please feel free to add your own items..... Haters - Ok I listed this first because isn't it time to put this one to bed? This 'Label' is way over used and misused. We all enjoy the activity of drum corps in our own way and I find it really hard to believe that people truly 'Hate'. Maybe one or two people here or there but they are far and few between and certainty don't represent the majority of fans. My Grandmother always cautioned me on the usage of the word hate because of how strong a word it is. Labeling people is never good. Everyone is an individual; treat them as such. Sportsmanship - All we have to do as fans is watch how the performers behave. Sure there might be an exception here or there but most marching members know how to act not only when something doesn't go their way but just as important they know how to act when things go their way. I love the fun poking and banter we have here on DCP and I wouldn't want to squash that one bit BUT please know when maybe you are going to far. Lose graciously AND win graciously. Put Yourself in 'Their Shoes' - So if you disagree with someone, always try to put yourself in their shoes. Engage. Don't immediately attack or flame someone because just because they say something critical about something you believe in. Think for a moment as to maybe Why are the saying what they are saying. Ask them "wow we totally disagree I am curious why do you feel that way?" Engage don't attack. It's Not What you Say It's the Way You Say It - Sorry but this one has been in my DNA from day one because my parents always reminded me of this. Snarky and sarcastic...yeah it's annoying and also overused. JUST HAVE FUN - Bottom line = it's all about having fun, being respectful and enjoying what is surely going to be a great Drum Corps season! Safe Travels & Best Wishes to all for an incredible 2024 Drum Corps Season!!
    22 points
  5. Throughout this forum there are debates about scores, placements, etc. but stories like this make the activity special. Well done, Boston. I'm proud to be part of the family!! ❤️🖤 I 💚 I 💛💜💙 KTFBAC 1987 - forever / HM - 2000 / HOF - 2016 Just posted on the Crusaders' Facebook page: Last night, we had a special visit in Oklahoma from local trumpet player, Casey Hubbard! Despite being born with spina bifida, Casey had one dream — to be in the marching band. His determined spirit (and dedicated band director) made headlines across the country late last year. At the end of the evening, the Boston Crusaders trumpet section welcomed Casey as an honorary BAC Sop! Thank you Casey for stopping by and sharing the evening with us! Read Casey's story: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/.../high-school-band...
    20 points
  6. I'll do the hard work for you Lineup & Times All times CT and subject to change 1:30 PM Welcome & National Anthem 1:40 PM Arsenal Drum & Bugle Corps - El Paso, TX 1:50 PM Zephyrus Drum & Bugle Corps - Tulsa, OK 2:02 PM Guardians - Dallas/Fort Worth, TX 2:19 PM Genesis - Austin, TX 2:36 PM Jersey Surf - Camden County, NJ 2:53 PM Seattle Cascades - Seattle, WA 3:10 PM The Academy - Tempe, AZ 3:27 PM Pacific Crest - City of Industry, CA 3:44 PM Music City - Nashville, TN 4:01 PM Intermission 4:31 PM Spirit of Atlanta - Atlanta, GA 4:48 PM Blue Knights - Denver, CO 5:05 PM Madison Scouts - Madison, WI 5:22 PM Troopers - Casper, WY 5:39 PM Crossmen - San Antonio, TX 5:56 PM Colts - Dubuque, IA 6:13 PM Intermission 7:13 PM Blue Stars - La Crosse, WI 7:30 PM The Cavaliers - Rosemont, IL 7:47 PM Mandarins - Sacramento, CA 8:04 PM Santa Clara Vanguard - Santa Clara, CA 8:21 PM Carolina Crown - Fort Mill, SC 8:38 PM Phantom Regiment - Rockford, IL 8:55 PM Boston Crusaders - Boston, MA 9:12 PM Blue Devils - Concord, CA 9:29 PM Bluecoats - Canton, OH 9:54 PM Scores Announced
    20 points
  7. Body work or choreo is the new Z-pull. Here is what I have observed, because of the elevation of HS marching programs things that we once saw drill wise that only an elite corps could pull off are no longer that difficult for any top 12 line. They can all do it and do it pretty easily. So, it's harder to get a demand payoff/separation from drill sets alone. Sure, we like the look of it from the stands, but I suspect it's because many of us are from a time before choreo took over and our eyes and brains don't fully understand how to gauge difficulty and appreciate it (at least mine didn't and I am trying to learn more). One of the things I have noticed is musical phrasing and breath control is super challenging during much of the difficult lower body work the top 4 units are doing....way more challenging than marching upright and rotating a diamond set at 180bpm. Try doing a synchronized 4-count deep knee bend while playing a chromatic run while executing a crescendo to fff. (not all corps can do that=demand) Not saying there isn't still some innovative "drill" meat on the bone out there, but no one is really chasing it. Again, because there is a demand and separation payoff in bodywork and upon closer inspection there should be....but,I miss it too...it looked cool.
    18 points
  8. I’m very up on drum corps this season and this was a real treat. And more to come. Congratulations to all.
    18 points
  9. Last Sunday I was exposed to an example of behavior and sportsmanship I have not been familiar with for a long time. My little guy is the BD-C trumpet (3rd from left of those kneeling (but he's actually standing) flanked by A and B corps who kneeled to his level. Then it hit me like a train harder than any closing push will ever do. He's at an organization where they will kneel down to those who look up to them so they can rise together.
    18 points
  10. Another thing I can tell you is that my son, who is a Cavalier, didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked him, and he had to go ask guys in the percussion section if someone was let go. Based on that, I don't think this is some sweeping demoralization of the corps. They are focused on the changes to the show and understand that their score is gonna suffer a bit until they get it cleaned up. I asked my son if he was disappointed with last night's score, and his response was no. He said they realize that what they put on the field last night is a work in progress. As the dad of a Cavalier, I'm not hearing anything about discontent in the corps.
    17 points
  11. Weather looks good and HOT! High of 101° F expected at 5 pm! Sunscreen required! The whole valley is in an excessive heat warning til' Saturday. I'll be here reporting the show from the stands!
    17 points
  12. Oh but the porn music works. Of course.
    17 points
  13. pinch me. im dreaming. they finally did it, they wrote the best show ever. this is everything i loved from 2014, 16, 17, 18, 22, and 23, and more. the energy, the writing, the full body chills, the tearjerks, and the experimentation. they genuinely wrote the best show they could have written. and its opening night. i smell something good.
    17 points
  14. If any members are reading this thread, you’re doing AWESOME Your design team needs to be held accountable for what they’ve given you
    17 points
  15. History has been made!! Congrats to the Mandarins for defeating Santa Clara Vanguard for the first time ever!! Great job!!!
    16 points
  16. BD 80.6 Mandarins 76.6 SCV 75.9 PC 68.65 The Academy 65.5
    16 points
  17. My son (a current Cavalier) sent me several dejected texts last night. One said, "People do not like our show, holy...." Last year I had to talk him down because tour was doing him in mentally and physically. This year, he's had the time of his life and been super excited. That's not the text that I wanted to get from him. People need to remember that these are kids and they are putting their heart and soul into these shows. They read what we write. I advised him to focus on the process and enjoy the experience... and to use it as fuel to make the show as tight as it can be to make people change their minds. Now, we're gonna see how The Cavaliers react. Hopefully they will react by building a beast.
    16 points
  18. Wow. Unbelievably prepared. The brass sounds like an organ. My goodness. Very impressive.
    16 points
  19. Every now and then I see that there was a post from someone I blocked/muted and when I click to reveal what they said I remember why I hid them lmao
    16 points
  20. With the exception of the Mandarins and BAC (and theirs is coming hopefully sooner than later) every corps that performed last night is a world champion at the world class level. Mandarins are winning just being on the same field with the big dawgs. Last night Mandarins beat the 7-time champs Cavaliers for the 11th straight time. Mandarins are currently tied 4-4 season series with 7-time champ SCV. 2-time champ PR beat the Mandarins for the first time last night since August of 2022. And earlier this year, maybe the most impressive thing, Mandarins were 0.1 behind BD head to head in GE1 Achievement. Mandarins have proven they belong in the top 7. I believe next year their recruiting numbers will top this year. Sacramento is becoming a destination choice for WC Performers. And lastly, let's not forget they have a Director in J. W. Koester that has sat at the top of the mountain as a DCI Champion. SCV and PR fans know what i am talking about. Koester knows what it looks like, and what it takes to build a champion level corps. And he is building one right now in Sacramento. Just think, ten years ago to the day, Mandarins were 20 points behind BD. Five years ago to the day, Mandarins were nine points behind BD. As of last night, they are now on the same field performing with BD and the rest DCIs best at one of the biggest shows of the year. Mandarins aren't going anywhere. They are here to stay.
    15 points
  21. I’m tuning in late (was seeing a show) - but from the commentary here I was expecting Crown to have been an utter boring loser mess and BD to have nixed their entire visual program and replaced their horns with kazoos …………. only to find that they both had season-best performances and were warmly received. Everyone was on fire tonight. You guys are a mess 😭 Congrats Bloo! Saw that coming weeks ago.
    15 points
  22. Tbh I really see Mandarins above Phantom eventually or by the end of the season. Their show is just so much more compelling lol
    15 points
  23. The season is just flying by! Congratulations to BD on the four peat! Who do you think will take second? Since every corps is ahead of where they were last year at this time, it’s gonna be crazy! I will predict the BAC Skittles will sneak into 2nd in a tight race! And welcome back SCV, hope you make it through the season!
    15 points
  24. Welcome to DCI 2024! Another season is upon us! For those who may not remember or who joined since the close of the 2023 season, I keep careful day-to-day statistics of show results and compare how things are going each day to how they were going on the same relative day of competition the previous season. From time to time, the analysis expands back to previous years for which I've been logging the data, typically around the regionals. Does it mean much? Probably not. does it give us something to ponder as the season moves along? Absolutely! Schedule Alignment 2023 is nearly identical to 2022 with one additional date this year without a competition. Most importantly, opening night was the same (last Wednesday of June) and closing night is the same (second Saturday of August). June 26 Run-Down The 2024 season opens with Boston Crusaders ahead of Phantom Regiment by 2.850 points. The Cavaliers are 1.900 points back from Phantom followed by Blue Stars (1.600 back) and Colts (2.250 back). It is interesting to note that Colts were 4.600 points and Troopers were 3.150 points behind Blue Stars on opening night last year. Both ended up ahead of Blue Stars on final night. There's a lot of action to come! Reading back on my initial post in the 2023 season, I'm proud of noting that Colts and Troopers opened at historically higher than typical scores with the possibility of excitement down the road later in the season. I don't do a lot of prognosticating in these posts, but that one turned out to be an understatement! That said, Phantom Regiment is down over a point over its 2023 debut and Blue Stars are down over three points. With Colts nearly exactly in line with its 2023 opening score, it seems that the corps is ready to make another statement this season. June 28 Preview There are no shows tonight so let's look ahead to Friday. Several of our friends on the West Coast make their debuts (Blue Devils, Mandarins, Santa Clara Vanguard) and Carolina Crown joins the Midwest fray. We will also see six Open Class corps take the field for the first time on the young season (Blue Devils B, Blue Devils C, Gold, Golden Empire, Impulse, Vessel).
    14 points
  25. Boston has won drums at every show so far this season. ❤️❤️ Congrats all for an entertaining evening!
    14 points
  26. I didn't see it the way he saw it (AT ALL), but jwillis is one of the most knowledge persons on here, IMO, and he puts a lot of thoughts into his posts. I've learned a lot from him.
    14 points
  27. BD just ridiculously strong across all captions. People.are going to be mad in an hour lol.
    14 points
  28. Nice bump for PC. Cut their deficit down to the corps in front of them in these Cali shows by almost two points.
    14 points
  29. Blue Devils: might be me having a long week, I feel like most groups it takes a movement or so for me to fully get into. Hornline is playing a ton this year. I don’t always love everything they do, but I always love how they do it. And I was more bought into the program each minute. Best corps tonight to clearly communicate all of their ideas and effects. Some super fun moments throughout. I can’t normally tell a differents between drum lines, but with pits: I can definitely tell there front ensemble is a powerhouse this year. Some amazing writing and playing. I will probably love this show by the end of the season, they almost completely sold me already. Already pretty clean, and there’s enough meat in the book that they could easily keep their streak going. Potentially an opening for groups to catch them if they clean and have more in the book than them (thinking blue coats, but haven’t seen much other than some short vids here and there).
    14 points
  30. Sorry it's taken a few days, life has gotten in the way, but I was asked to give my opinion on the show from a designers standpoint, so here it is. I want to preface this to say that this will be my last post on DCP. I will still be lurking, but as far as joining the conversation, those days will be behind me after this post. There's just too much negativity and to be honest I'm beyond bored with the placements and scoring as it's extremely predictable at this point, as are the posters of this forum. I also want to say that I do love this show, but I do plan on being critical here, and there may be a lot of things that I say that people won't like. Welcome to DCP, amirite? Lolol. Lets begin. The story of Prometheus, set by Crown, follows as such... Zeus tasks his sons Prometheus and Epimetheus to create humans (Opener) Prometheus feels sorry for the humans, sneaks into the workshop of Hephaestus and Athena on Mount Olympus, steals fire, and brings it to the humans to teach them to use it for cooking, forging, etc. Since fire is usually a gift reserved for the Gods, Zeus is enraged, chains Prometheus up to a rock in the Caucasus, and is punished by an eagle to eat Prometheus's liver every day, as he regenerates every night. Years later, with Zeus' permission, the Greek hero Heracles kills the eagle by shooting it with an arrow and releases Prometheus from his imprisonment. After he is released, Prometheus and Zeus make peace. - Opener This is the part of the show with the most visually compelling section and likely mostly what is being rewarded in GE right now. The use of the individual pieces of fabric to show the humans being formed from clay is stellar in this section, as well as the guard using the larger piece to portray fire, and their movement under it absolutely captures the movement of fire. Once the fabric is removed directly before the opening hit, we see the human form start to take hold. Once those flags are revealed, it's is an absolutely stunning and compelling moment. I truly hope they don't change a #### thing in this section. It is without a doubt the most well written part of the show. The guard work completely complements the music during the hit and is extremely well layered. What I would change: 100% would not change a thing in this section of the show, with the exception of what I first mention in the second movement. - Second Movement This is where things start to get muddled. We don't have a main character to focus on until the ballad. There is nothing to focus the story throughout the Opener and Second Movement. We know that in the opener Prometheus creates the human race, but we don't see him doing so. He emerges from behind Mount Olympus at the end of the opening hit, and has a flag solo at the beginning of the second movement in front of Mount Olympus, but then disappears. Last year, while Arthur would mix in with the guard from time to time, we still knew where Arthur was as it was pronounced by two things: 1. His uniform was different than everyone else's and 2. His character was much more pronounced in the way the drill was written. Prometheus needs a different uniform (I'm sure that is to come, I'd be willing to lay money on this), and his storyline needs to become more clear and pronounced so that he stands out and is easily followed (Helen comes to mind in 2016, with how the story always happened in front of her, making it easy to follow). The drill in this movement is extremely linear across the field, and while that is nice, it's extremely lacking. Now, I have a theory about this, that Sacktig has written the drill this year in a way to make it easily layer-able as the season progresses. We'll see if that is the case, but for right now, the drill is severely lacking in visual clarity and appeal. Guard integration seems to be lacking here as well, and definitely hoping that will be addressed and fixed. The mountains turning around to give us more color is a nice and effective GE moment, but I do wonder what the colors are supposed to represent. In my opinion, they look more fitting for a "Painted Desert" type of show theme (I wouldn't be mad at that, Crown. Hear me, Reid?). I know that the colors are supposed to represent colors of flags used in the past (Easter Egg for ya there), but in this specific show theme, what are they to represent? Clay? Earth? The humans were created from the clay in the opener, so it doesn't make any sense to regress the storyline here in my opinion. Nice pop of color, but seems redundant. The music in this section is intense and will take a while to clean, which is fine. We all know they'll get it done. The Tuba feature is SUPER nice. My favorite part of this movement. Now, while it's nice to hear Crown attempt more of a jazzy piece, I have two complaints here: 1. The Trumpet feature on the sideline is always cranked up way too loud and should feel more attached to the rest of the ensemble, and 2. When they reach the Jazz portion of the movement towards the end, there always tends to be some phasing issues. It should be fixed as the season progresses, but they've had this movement on for a month now, so it should already be resolved. What I would change: Several things I would change in this movement. Drill needs to be layered soon before they start to fall further back in the visual captions. More clarity to the storyline needs to be added other than a flag solo at the beginning of the movement, disappearing until the end of the movement when Prometheus has a solo rifle toss on Mount Olympus and is proceeded to be chained up. I've noticed that the Trumpet soloist for the ballad ends up on Mount Olympus just before the end of the Second Movement, and at the end of the movement we hear electrical charges which is supposed to be Zeus punishing Prometheus. I would utilized the soloist before the ballad, and have them throw down some sort of streamer (yellow, silver, glittery, whatever) to have it look like Zeus is using his power and give some visual representation of the sound effect, because as of now it just sounds out of place if you don't know what's going on. -Ballad Prometheus is chained up, the eagle makes an appearance...and the movement goes no where visually. I think this is mostly due to the lack of movement outside of around Mount Olympus. Very little drill going on here, which is a choice I must say...and not a great one in my opinion. I understand why: they want the focus to be on the storyline here, as with all Crown ballads. Issue is, the storyline takes place too far back, and without anything drawing attention to the soloists outside of the eagle flag, which honestly doesn't read well enough to make the story pronounced enough to realize what is going on. More clarity is needed (this seems to be a theme this year, huh? Maybe they should do a show next year called Clarity and just beat us over the head with the theme...oh wait, Right Here, Right Now...HA!). With the Brass doing mostly nothing for most of the movement, give them some body choreography, that could even start on side one and ripple towards Mount Olympus, bringing attention to the storyline. There's the ripple into the set for the hit of the ballad, and it could be used to bring in some of the leg work that Crown became known for in the early 2010s that was always super fun to watch. Something needs to happen here. The music is stunning, won't touch on that, but the visual is so bland here that it almost ruins the ballad. This is the same issue that Beasts ballad had. I understand that Crown tends to focus more on music, but visual is starting to take it's toll on this corps and becoming their Achilles heel (how fitting in a show about Greek Mythology?) What I would change: There needs to be more happening in this ballad, and it's that simple. More. Sometimes less is better, but this is simply not the case. We need more. I would give a visual representation of the electrical sound effects leading into the ballad, pronounce the story more (is the female supposed to be Heracles? Pronounce that more. Give her a uniform piece to add to her current uniform that can be discarded after the ballad). Add more choreography for the Brass that leans towards the Mount Olympus prop to bring the focus to the storyline. While I know Prometheus is chained up, this needs to be more theatrical as well. I don't know how you would portray that, with him being chained up, but something more needs to happen here with him. The eagle needs to be bigger (I know they make flags bigger than that). As someone said previously, I believe it was NewArpege, have red streamers come off of Prometheus. This is supposed to be a huge moment in the storyline, and it's just falling short right now. - Closer This movement is NOT finished. There's still more to add to the ending, around a minute and 20 seconds from what I've been told, and will be added around San Antonio if my intel is correct (I have no reason not to trust them. They were right last year about the soft ending, but the staff decided against it at the last minute). I'm loving this Mackey piece. It's very similar to Aurora Awakes (one of my all time favorite pieces of his), and it's a very epic ending musically. We're hearing chord density that Crown has never attempted before, and are a very welcoming change of pace in drum corps. I very much hope this partnership continues. I also love seeing Mackey's videos he's posted with the corps, he seems to be loving this venture just as much as the kids and the fans. I can't wait to hear the last bit they have yet to add, as I've heard it's the most difficult part of the show. I hope it stacks up. As the Brass converge on the mountain props, I can't help but to think there will be something that happens here (I've heard that there will be a uniform change, and I'm thinking this might be where it takes place). The flags here are very clearly a place holder. There's no other reason to go with a highlighter yellow silk here (Unless your name is BAC). My biggest issue with this movement is the parade block. It's clunky, seems out of place, and just doesn't do anything visually. I hope this changes. I understand it's a transition set to get to the larger set during the hit, but something else can be done here. Again, the same issue throughout the entire show, we need visual stimulation. We lose clarity here (again) with the storyline. Prometheus grabs the torch from Mount Olympus and runs around with it (Why isn't the torch on top of Mount Olympus lit up yet? What's going on with that? Any insight?). We need more from this section with the storyline. Obviously Prometheus is released, and him and Zeus make peace, but we really don't see that happening visually. How could would it be to see him toss the torch? I highly doubt that is possible, as it looks like it has some weight to it, and it probably wouldn't fly right, but it would still be cool. What I would change: I'm not going to touch much here, because it's clearly an unfinished product. Just add clarity to the storyline here. I love this show, I do. It's much better than 95% of the shows that we received from the previous design caption head. With that being said, it's lacking in the same departments as last years show (which I also loved). The two shows are very similar, and it honestly makes me wonder how much input the design caption head has in show design, with the two being designed by two different people. This show is plagued by the same issues as last years show, and while last years show did end up medaling, I hope this isn't going to become the new trend. All three sections of the corps are proving that they're here to play, Brass, Percussion, and Guard. The thing is though, this design very much leans towards an older style of design. I love Crown for their storytelling abilities, giving us shows that are easily accessible (for the most part), but the activity is leaving this sort of design, and I think it's high time that Crown follows suit before they get left behind. Here's my proposal for next season... Crown goes full modern, but with a vibe of tradition. This is possible. There is someone on staff, Scot Mitchell (who I believe is also a Crown alumni), that works with a band in Fort Mills, SC who did just that this past year. Catawba Ridge High School. Their show had the visual appeal of the modern age (with a throwback to the 80s pop culture), while still feeling very traditional in their vibe and approach to music (even though they used pop songs throughout). Here's a video... We can still have the storytelling that Crown has become known for, while still moving with the modern era of design. Crown just has to figure that out before they get left behind. There's still time, and I hope that they figure this out to continue being one of the leading corps of the activity. Hopefully I didn't tick off too many of my fellow Crownies with this post. I'm sure some members of the forum will laugh react to it, and that's fine. As I said before, I'll still be here, but I'll be going back to lurking instead of posting. Anyone is free to message me, I will respond, but my public posting days are over. Enjoy the season, Crownies! Edited to add: Xanax, buddy, it's going to be okay. Calm down. Breathe. Still plenty of season to go. No reason to sound the alarm just yet.
    14 points
  31. I think the thing with GE when it comes to Bloo, BAC, and Crown is that Bloo and BAC keep me locked in musically and visually the entire show. I feel like I'm being led through a seamless experience. Crown has moments of great GE, but other times it j u s t c r a w l s....
    14 points
  32. Their use of sound and space. Putting mics on the flags. They use the electronics in newer and more innovative ways than any other corps.
    14 points
  33. True confession- I get a kick out of reading the long, detailed descriptions of what the meaning of the show is, complete with many fancy adjectives and deep philosophical meanings. Bluecoats and SCV threads include this, for example. But every single time I read one I come back to a quote from that great impressionist Claude Monet: ”Everyone discusses my art and pretends to understand, as if it were necessary to understand, when it is simply necessary to love.” I guess I’m not smart or deep enough to understand a show at a cerebral level so I just try to feel it and love it. If it’s good enough for Monet it’s good enough for me! But please keep the deep thoughts coming! I love them!
    14 points
  34. Crown is always incredible musically but there are certain points every year that take me out completely when it feels like "look how many notes we can play regardless of what it does to the musical pacing"! Those are back, part two is a big ol run on sentence to me lol. Keeps me from really loving listening to their shows versus some of their earlier stuff. Opener is killer. Part two feels like it goes on for twenty minutes. Ballad is nice. Closer is John Mackey, but didn't love it. Collab is cool but he's writing far cooler stuff inside that can be arranged. And yes I can tell it's not done yet lol I like this show and did like last year for the most part too. I wish the props did a lot more and had more varied placement, makes the drill super compressed in the front half and IMO Sacktig is best when he's got room to work with. Color palette is killer. They sound and look great. Really exciting. I like it. Just gets a little gratuitous in the brass book to me feeling like they always have to one up themselves. Percussion huge step up the last two seasons. Not a lot of weaknesses, just a bunch of little things that kinda add up and bug me. They'll have a good season. They're just not my favorite flavor. Biggest thing to me is I felt pretty much zero emotion watching besides "this is good". Impressed for sure. Enjoyed? Not really. Probably a medal rn.
    14 points
  35. I'm not surprised by the reactions to The Cavaliers. I totally get it. I miss the geometrics and "cool" factor of The Cavaliers, but it's 2024, and they feel they need to move in a new direction. They are in a unique position as the "only" all-male corps left in the activity. Even though I miss the "cool" Cavaliers, I think it's fascinating that they are humanizing themselves with a show that is really about what humans (and in their case, men) struggle with mentally, hiding behind an armor of shame, and struggling to accept their authentic selves. A large portion of the corps is GBTQ, and I'm sure they are appreciating The Cavaliers acknowledging that being an all male corps does not mean that it's all about being manly. I encourage people to look again at what The Cavaliers are doing. They are making a statement on the things we do to armor ourselves out of fear and shame. Transforming to a tunic that looks somewhat like a dress is a pretty big and bold statement from The Cavaliers. One that says, we can be the Green Machine, but we also can acknowledge our humanity and who we are as a unit, which is a group of young men that spreads across the entire spectrum. I can tell you from my son's experience that, The Cavaliers organization embraces its members for who they are, and encourage them to be their authentic selves, whatever that may be. This year, they are choosing to put that statement directly in front of our eyes on the field this year. It's a statement from The Cavaliers that they are more than just and all-male corps. They are a unit that is willing to acknowledge and proudly proclaim that they celebrate who the members are collectively, whatever that may be. And yeah, we all saw that the show is still messy, likely because it's hard! But we also all know that is temporary. I, for one, am looking forward to what this show looks like in San Antonio and beyond. They are charting new territory. Let them cook, and maybe think about what it is they are trying to do and say this year.
    14 points
  36. COME ON CAVIES!!!! 1...2...3... SPLOOIE!
    14 points
  37. They don't have their closer (alternate ending) on the field because they made the decision to reveal it at a particular point in the season. They have been practicing it for weeks now, along with other tidbits not yet revealed. I don't consider moving in a week early an advantage. My son would have moved in earlier than that if he could. He loves what he's doing and as a parent I'm happy for him. Oh, and the way I see it, my son got a week more (in some cases 2 weeks) than other corps whose fees are the same. I expect Crown to close some gaps very soon.
    13 points
  38. Congrats, Bloo! Well deserved! Congrats, Boston - another new milestone! Beautiful show has you in the thick of the fight! Great job, BD - the challenge will do you well! Good to see you again Crown - time to build that show out like we know you will. Great night PR, keep building on this momentum! Welcome to the big time Mandarins! We know you have better runs and more to show us - point toward Indy! Big step up Cavies - good changes and cleaning, keep it up! Nice to meet you Zephyrus - it was a pleasure and hope to see you live in Indy next year.
    13 points
  39. Man, I had some doubts about this BD show going into it tonight: (drill is too centered and too curvilinear) Concept too unrelatable ballad not as approachable as past ones Well lets just say tonight’s run threw that out the window. It’s an AWESOME show. Brass and perc are on fire as always. The brass specifically in some of the Mello/trumpet feature sections, Flo will never be able to pick up on the echo and the near PERFECTLY in time notes those exposed sections are. You can literally feel the space between the notes they’re all in so much unison… kinda hard to describe. And omg colorguard, I’ve seen BD here in Colorado 22-24 and NC 2019, best BD guard of any of those - absolute perfection, style, communication, there’s nothing they can’t achieve and act they like they’ve been doing it since the learned to walk. I think the only gripe you could still have is the concept it a little high brow… but that’s Scott chandlers problem and I happen to like the concept just fine.
    13 points
  40. First live show of the season and it was a great night!!! First, gotta give some love to the Open corps - Golden Empire, Impulse and Vessel had impressive numbers and fun shows! Gold was solid. They look smaller, and I think I liked their show more last year, but they have a lot of talent and should compete for a medal again this year. BDB just feel like a different level. They are huge and put out a great sound. That trumpet section is fire, their battery is strong, and their guard has a lot of demand for an Open corps. I expect them to win in Indy. And BDC - I LOVE THEM!! I want to hug every one of them after their show!!! Haha! Academy and PC - enjoy this year's version of both of them more than last. I think they both beefed up their books a bit, and they seem more aggressive than years past. I would love to see them clean up and be in the running for a finals spot. SCV - It was pretty emotional just seeing them live after being inactive last year. The show has 2018 and 2019 vibes. They are really strong musically, which is why I'm not surprised they are beating Mandarins in that caption. Had no idea what to expect from them after last year, but they didn't really miss a beat and you could tell the entire crowd loved having them back. Mandarins - I think so many corps have a style they just stick with, like BD, Crown, SCV and PR. But then you have Bloo and Mandarins, who really try to change things up. This show is so different than last year's popular Sinnerman. It's not so in-your-face, but there is so much more meat in this book, great design and use of props (which look heavy af), and so much fun to watch! I expect them to add more layers visually to help bring their theme together, but I would love to see this be the 5th place show in Indy. BD - The Fourpeat is happening!! The talent in this corps is on a different level - only BD gets vets from Bloo, Crown and Boston. They are just so freakin' good! Brass is balanced and already so clean, battery and front ensemble are solid, and the guard is insane!!! It's like I'm watching a top independent world winterguard show! I don't think this Romantics theme is coming together as well as previous years, but I still love this show and there is no denying them another championship. Final thought - Welcome back, SCV!! Glad Mandarins' win over SCV in Clovis was confirmed it was not an outlier, but I expect these two to flip flop throughout the season. Also, West Coast inflation is a farce. Another live show tonight! Can't wait!!
    13 points
  41. Great show tonight. A few thoughts just on the big 3. SCV: Not having props didn't bother me at all. When you are watching the show you completely forget the lack of props. So no props is not a big deal. But, I don't find the drill design to be that great. With no props I think they would have been better off combing some traditional drill design with choreography. Use traditional drill to create framing and to setup segments of the show that can be choreographed. In other words, use the members as a giant substitute for props. They didn't do that. The entire show is choreographed, but they don't don't execute it in such a clean way yet. So, visually the entire affair looks messy. However, I'm so very glad to see them out there. And they sound good. Not as good as Mandarins and BD, but still very good and very much like a top tier corps. It's impressive after an entire (forced) year off. So I think they'll still do well and in the end and are hopefully on the pathway to a really good comeback. The red and blue uniforms look great BTW!! Mandarins: Definitely their best show ever. It's time to start considering them a top tier corps. Their horn section is very strong this year and they are playing a very difficult book. There are places where there are too many things happening musically IMO, resulting in some muddiness. But overall their horn section shines and the entire show is very demanding - the sort of demand you expect from a corps that is trying to place at finals. They won't there this year, but they could well be 5th or 6th. Really great to see. Lot's of character and personality in that show. BD: Nothing but good things to say here. First and foremost, they were the only corps that gave me guard moments that got my attention. None of the other guards tonight resonated. But BD showcased their guard and they delivered big time. In addition their horn line was easily the best tonight. They maybe even win brass this year. They are commanding your attention the entire way. Is it just me, or does BD voice their horn section higher overall than other corps. I feel like everything their horn section plays averages about 3 steps higher than other corps? Maybe that's part of what makes their sound unique? Or maybe it's my imagination. Overall, a good night.
    13 points
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  43. Just saw this right now. Congrats to Mandarins for beating SCV in Brass for the first time EVER!!!
    13 points
  44. Ok just as I thought. ONCE AGAIN!!!! BD online vs BD live in person. Not...........even..........close. I wish everyone the very best of luck trying to beat The Romantics.
    13 points
  45. I feel like this show the way I felt about seeing '93 Star, 2012 Devils, and 2016 Bluecoats...like you had no clue know what was coming next. Even though you might not "like" everything at first glance but you absolutely can't look away. Amazing the way they play with musical texture and space. This alum is feeling excited 💪
    13 points
  46. No “Blue.” No “Coats.” Just woke, progressive crap. 😉
    13 points
  47. Alright, here is my take on the Midwest Premiere. (Warning, if you want a totally "rosy" review, it's probably best to stop reading here. 1. General: I had it on my big screen, and listened through a quality stereo amp with Sony headphones. I thought Flo did a really good job......I used the multi-camera feed......visual clarity was great, and I thought that audio was quite good, too. Also, looks like they had a decent-sized, enthusiastic crowd. Northern Lights: good to see a new (2nd year) team out there.....decent size, and some decent sounds happening considering the youth/experience level apparent. Colts: I felt that the corps was decently prepared, and it was good to hear some familiar melodies. I am not a visual guy, though that may be where they need the most growth; early season performance levels sometimes make it tough to gauge. I had them in 4th, the judges had them 5th. Blue Stars: they surprised me a bit. I think that this show has more demand and depth than last year's offering. Fairly well-prepared, and I think greater potential musically than last year. Time will tell. I had them 3rd, Judges had them 4th. Phantom: for me, they are a "mixed bag". In the first half, I find the percussion writing to be too long/drawn out (ie too much tacet in brass). Strong demand in both brass and percussion, and they played well for first show. The middle production number rocks.....some great jazz/rock phrasing throughout the brass, and the baritone/trombone duo guys are off the hook good...by far the best soloists of the night. The build to the ending was solid as well. I had them 2nd, winning brass.......judges had them 2nd as well and 2nd in brass..........I had them down by .8....judges had it at 2.85 Cavaliers: There is so much dissonance for an extended period of time in the opener that I am unsure as to what their intent is........things do settle a bit later with some decent melodic phrases, but the quality of performance by the soloists/leads really sounded like February.....drumline is competent, though nothing wowed me writing-wise. The guard will be good, but obviously winter guard latecomers struggled with many drops tonight in the rifles. I had them 5th overall and 5th in brass.....judges had them 3rd, and 3rd in brass....the 3rd in brass I find very puzzling, as well as the overall placement. Boston: They were well-prepared. When I saw the uniforms when first revealed, I didn't like them at all, though I will say the look improves with the way they are grouped/staged color-wise. The visual/guard package is at a high level, and will likely be their strength. The percussion book is demanding, and they played well-tonight and earned that caption win....there are some quality/pitch issues in brass, both ensemble and small groups/soloists, that will need to be addressed very soon, though this didn't show up in the brass score. Also, I think that the arranging lacks continuity and seems quite choppy at times, which could end up being a major problem, no matter how well they eventually play. A rant that applies to everyone........pre-recorded vocal samples.........if you are going to incorporate vocals (either speech or singing), IMO that should be done LIVE.......if not, then no credit should be given...again, IMO.....it takes zero talent for a synth player to push one key or button at the right moment and trigger a voice sample.....it DOES take talent to do the vocal live in the right space........ (and I am not certain you are getting much mileage in the area of audience appreciation of the samples) .save the pre-recorded vocal sample bites for WGI Indoor......rant off Looking forward to seeing the other teams..........................
    13 points
  48. This show. I don't even know where to start. If Sinnerman was a puppy, Vieux Carre is a freaking Rottweiler. The talent on the field. My goodness. @brassboy tried to warn me. He saw a couple of rehearsals thru out the week. I wasn't ready. No one in attendance was ready. Wait till all of you see Vieux Carre.
    13 points
  49. Very much looking forward to seeing the return of the Santa Clara Vanguard. Hope the corps is healthy, happy, and making great progress on their show.
    13 points
  50. I really don't even understand how anyone can comment on the drill from the video that's out there. It is shot from so low in the stands that you cannot even see the drill. It's a crappy video recording from a low angle. I also would never judge a brass performance based on cell phone audio. I know the brass performance was great because Crown's brass is the best in the business, not because of this recording. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but we won't know what the potential of this show is for several weeks nor if it's a step up or step down from last year until then. Remember 2015? This time then, I thought it was the most boring Crown show ever and it had absolutely no potential. Weeks later, it's my favorite Crown show, the most electrifyingly exciting show of the 2015 season, and almost (should have) won it all. Still one of the greatest travesties in all of the activity, and one person says they were flat that night and the rest of the sheep follow. They weren't flat - it was politics and herd-judging that did them in. Simple as.
    13 points
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