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Speaking of tosses, I sure do miss the wind-up. Remember that? :P
It's no wonder..
I've got to say.. REALLY???
Sharon
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Too bad.. really.
Figured.
Sharon
Not for nothing.. but really?
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Griff you slay me.. Jamison anyone!!!! :)
Too bad.. really.
Figured.
Sharon
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Griff you slay me.. Jamison anyone!!!! :)
Too bad.. really.
Figured.
Sharon
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How many posters in the last 10 pages quit reading after page 1 and missed the 4 pages of dialog that was ON TOPIC and constructive that came after the 2nd through 6th pages of backlash? Should I start a new pole thread? Here's an idea .. read the entire thread ... post your ideas on what's valid within the thread .. and scream bloody murder in PM. <**>
OT: I do wonder if there will be a detailed proposal laid out on this medium ... or in some other format regarding the ideas of the OP. I'm itching to read it and add my 2 cents.
I wouldn't "PM" a SINGLE person here...ever..
Sharon
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Ouch,,so much for no personal attacks.
Whatever you think. And respond to.
I believe that Mr Rudnicki (that started this thread) is wrong.
Care to comment?
Sharon
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Here is the thing..
Santa Clara tossed first.
Who can say different?
Sharon
PS: If you can? And it makes a difference to you? I'm willing to revise my memories..
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It really is too bad that this group NEEDS some of you.
It's really "nice" of some of you to comment on a drum and bugle corps that I marched with.. but really not necessary. It's not necessary of some of you to take OVER.
27th wasn't ever associated with North Star. Matter of fact.. THOSE folks that MARCHED with 27th?.. Let us know.. every moment.
I'll come back later.. I don't hang around DCP so much.. I'll be banned in a 27th MINUTE! :)
Sharon
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I can completely understand how GARFIELD was tinkering on not fielding a corps going into 1980.
I know there were many winters when 27th was searching for people. It's not that we didn't get people to attend a rehearsal, when they really discovered how intense things were, they never returned.
For those of us that marched, we always "believed" new members (albeit legit players and guard) would show up - or veterans would return at the last minute. We had a great group arrive from Virginia Beach early in 1977 before the season started. It was a huge moral booster. And we had several kids from the same HS in Michigan as well. That was the real beginning of DCI corps having "nomads" as members. The real, home grown member was becoming a thing of the past.
As DCI has grown (oxymoron???), the upper echelon corps must find it harder and harder to recruit local members. The advent of the internet and corps websites, allows prospective members to research every corps without leaving his/her room. And in many cases, the membership are college students who don't show up for good until they get out of school.
North Star, Rockland, Boston, Alliance, and 27th all suffered with diminishing "local" numbers in the early 1980's. And the local Class A, B, and C corps were evaporating to make the local recruiting effort even harder.
Oh please..
You've just disrtracted anyone that could explain. I asked about THEM.. You explained about YOU.
You made it impossible... for ANYONE to explain. Thanks alot.
Sharon
PS: My original question still stands..
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1980 Garfield Cadets.
The Cadets struggled during the off-season just to put a corps on the field that summer... they started out slowly on the scoresheets, but ended up in 10th place at DCI Finals that year. Great comeback.
Fran
I don't get it. And NOT one PERSON has EVER - EXPLAINED -WHY the Cadets continued to win.
What's the story? Struggling? To put a Corps on the field?
Sharon
PS: I don't get that. Please explain..
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I was so happy to see this thread.. to read it.. and be surprised and be in wonder about it.
Sincerely disappointed.
Sharon
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Lets load up some votes for old school entertainment!
I vote 1979 North Star for CC 2007!!
Let the Chrome Wall Live Again!
I'll vote!!!
Sharon
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LOL!
Sharon
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Wow.
Sharon
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Have some EXPLAINING to do
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I've spoken about tradition.. I've spoken about re-vitalizing DCA. I've spoken about individual units.. I've spoken about DCA'S administration. I've spoken about the revitalization of drum and bugle corps.
All I've gotten - is accusations.
Seriously.. when is the accusations going to go away? And if some of you mean to portray your LAST DCI accomplishment? I'm not interested.
SOOO not interested in your accomplishments. I've been there and done that.
Sharon
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Been a part of AND witness to all of the above.
Wow! :) Some recollections here.. certainly blow ME away! And I was there!
Sharon
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'78 was about two years ahead of most everybody else. By '80, if you watch the finals telecast carefully, you'll see several guards doing flag tosses. Even my guard was doing them.
BTW? 27th got all the glory because of George Zingali. There were a number of corps that truly competed.
In today's world.. I would like to see the competition. :)
Sharon
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I am not quite sure where Sharon is coming from. LancerFi has as much history with many of the kids from North Star as anyone.
What is amazing - is that North Star was perhaps the greatest merger of corps that truly succeeded. How many people know that the Reveries from Revere merged with the Danvers Blue Angels in 1975 - and renamed themselves the Blueveries? Tommy Upton, former Reverie snare marched with them prior to joining 27th for the 1976 season.
The fact that the Blueveries again merged with remnants of the Beverly Cardinals, to become North Star in 1976 is of greater importance.
Corps in greater Boston all exhibited an enormous sense of pride. The base for membership in Boston Crusaders, North Star, and the 27th Lancers was dependent upon the survival of many, many Class A drum corps - and CYO bands - that were scattered throughout Massachusetts. Other corps like the Rockland Defenders were able to grab those kids from the south shore that might not be able to get to the inner city or the north shore. As those four corps continued to compete in the DCI arena, and as local corps were starting to diminish, we all become dependent upon "outsiders" - from out of state - to survive.
In many cases - it was true friendships that brought members to one corps or another. For kids that left smaller corps and wanted to "move to the big time" - it was an "allure" to go to one corps or another. For me - although the Boston Crusaders practiced 5 minutes from my parents home, but it was the 27th Lancers that took my breathe away in 1969. The rest, is history.
I am personal friends with Jim O'Brien - a class act for all time. He ran North Star like the business that it was - and he would not, could not, afford to run the corps without having the necessary funds. I am also very close to Rick Connor and taught with him for many years. Rick and 27th's Jim Wedge were former competitors and I would be the "messenger" going from one rehersal with Rick, to a rehearsal with Wedge - and the two would share old war stories with me.
Yes - North Star absolutely earned the respect of drum corps fans near and far. If you were not there to see North Star win the 1979 CYO Nationals - you missed one of the most emotional and GE packed performances of all time.
So Sharon - please - lighten up. You and me - neither of us has our former corps around any longer, but it was great while it lasted. And as LancerFi said - it was a great honor for me as well, to march with so many great North Star, BAC, Defenders, Pembroke Imperials, Amvet Brigaders, and so many others in 1994.
No problem.
I look forward to meeting anyone here that will be at the North Star Reunion on October 21st.
Sharon
Sharon
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All I have to say is.. to YOU and anyone else?
This thread is about North Star.
And now.. "I" will LECTURE..
My lecture is this..
My opinion is that North Star should be given it's due.
And those that need to shore up themselves?
Isn't right.
Sharon
PS: Lancerfi?
PPS? You - as well?
Yes, that's your opinion, and I see your explanation of why you responded the way you did to Geoff. But here's the thing: In my opinion (and yes, it's my opinion), you've ascribed intentions to Nancy that I don't believe were part of her post. My perception of what she said is that she was trying to explain why, in many ways, the existence of both 27th Lancers and North Star so close together created something like a "divorce" relationship between the two corps. That's no exaggeration, as I've also seen firsthand the feelings created by such a rivalry.
Secondly, rather than denigrating North Star, she was actually complimenting them by noting that had two separate corps been one, that corps very well could have become a superpower rivaling Blue Devils. It's only natural that she made that comment with regard to 27th Lancers, but she just as easily could have used North Star as the superpower example . . . and maybe that would have prevented you responding as you did. But it's perfectly understandable to cite ones own corps as an example. If I were talking about it with regard to Oakland and Seneca, I'd probably use Oakland as my example, while a Seneca person would use Seneca. Not too hard to figure that one out, from an emotional standpoint. That doesn't mean either of us is denigrating the other, just going with who, in our dreams, we would've liked to see achieve superpower status. It's only natural that it would be our own corps.
But, of course, this gets back into the almost divorce-like emotions that run high between rival corps. Pick a corps with a rival nearby, and you'll likely hear/read exactly the same sentiments. I think that's part of what Nancy was addressing, too.
So, in my opinion, yours was an overreaction. But, of course, that's just my take on it.
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Thanks Geoff, she's new here and doesn't know how many times I've said I've love NS and their guard
Really? Let's see..
However if you want to go ### for tat yes you did have a color guard on the field and now what?
And byline it's not about dollars and cents, it's about winning or coming in 2nd? That's what I thought I was doing.
However now that you, yes you, brought it up, my dear NS girl, the competition end, I never thought I and we never thought we'd be competing with NS for 5th or anything close to you by the time finals came around, just never! A different league darlin. I'm sorry, a great and pound for pound better than us in drums and maybe even horns, never guard of course, but we had alot you didn't have! And I didn't get my due? Where were you all of those years?
Lancerfi? You weren't about supporting North Star.. and it's guard.
Please..
Christ....come one, you can't be serious about me getting my due at the top of the game and at the top of the heap, now you've really ###### me off, it's people that weren't Reveries that do it every time too, you know, I hang with NS peoples from the Reveries more than 2-7 people, you don't even know me or who I know, what I was, what I did, and you're calling me out like someone else we know??? We rooted for you, got it, they were my best friends and still are!
I'm sorry.. Never was any part of the Reveries.
OK band wagon you want band wagon, go away, we were the band wagon, we don't need any trouble makers here from RAMD and I did know this would eventually happen. I called it and can I get a witness........grow up everyone!
Now what? :P Are you going to apologize now?
AND.. why THIS group... is the WAY.. IT is.
I'm just waiting for "someone" to make sure it isn't appropriate for me to comment here.
Sharon
NS by the way those were my initials until I was 33...... :P
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I got the 2 mixed up as well, I loved 1980 which is the one I watch the most.
I believe last year when we were discussing the Classic Countdown everyone was saying we must try to get the votes for either 79 or 80.
That would be fabulous!
Oh good.. can I count on you and what you write..?
Sharon
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Well, for cryin' out loud, who woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning? <**>
IMHO..
Wrong reply.
Sharon
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Ahhh, the classy, charismatic Sharon has done it again ! Thankfully, nothing about LancerFi has anything to do with North Star. She has a lot to do however with the 27th Lancers, Drum corps legacy, New England drum corps legacy, and precedent in colorguard and leadership.....care to elaborate on any of those qualities you might fit in ??
~G~
Hi Geoff..
I will. Because I follow through on my promises. I follow through on what I write.. And I mean it. Unlike YOU.
I believe that Lancerfi's intention was to (even in responding to someone else) dismiss North Star's quality as a drum and bugle corps.
She wrote that if ALL of the corps that were competing when her corps was.. had combined to become a superpower like BD.. 27th would have been a superpower. I've said before.. and I'll say it again. Not EVERYONE on the east coast was interested in being a 27th Lancer.
Me in particular.. And I've said why.. many times.
Geoffrey.. this thread is about North Star. I marched in North Star. I WILL protect it's name. Lancerfi described why the 27th Lancers didn't get their due. On THIS thread. And told another poster WHY she thought that HER corps didn't win.
You want to reprimand someone for their comments? And it's ME?
WOW!
DCP at it's best.. Geoffrey.. no WONDER you weren't made for RAMD. And left in a huff.. and now think you can hassle me. Here.
You've totally got to be kidding with legacy, New England and leadership.
Talk about jumping on a band wagon! LOL!
As far as colorguard? North Star competed.
Sharon
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J, I've been saying it for the past 30 years, had it been up to many of the kids that did not go to 2-7 for whatever reasons they had, I have no doubt we would be the BD of the East.
Adults can be very hateful for no apparent reason. Still in 1994, some marched in 94 and their parents wouldn't speak to them, how's that? :sshh:
What would have happened to BD, well, no one will ever know!!!
I'm sorry.. What does your #####ING have to do with North Star?
Sharon
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Hi Frank!
Long time.
How did the Bridgemen Alumni do?
I've been banned from DCP until NOW... so I don't know what YOU guys that left RAMD for this group has discussed ABOUT drum corps.
The Bridgemen?
Sharon