Nex
-
Posts
301 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Posts posted by Nex
-
-
Pre-season recordings up on the Fan Network.
-
Check back with us in August or September, when we know how much tour swag they've sold.
TWEET! 15 yards, improper use of logic.
There must be an obvious correlation between swag sold and the poster for this to be true, otherwise the amount of stuff sold could be related to any number of other things: audience reaction to the show, fans who just want the latest PR stuff, random kid who thought the uniform looked cool, positioning of the souvie trailer relative to the restrooms . . . or any other location for that matter, etc.
-
-
Other then for the occasional effect, I don't feel that the mello voice should be 'cutting through' anything. The counter melodic line adds support, interest, and body. It should not be an intrusive presence, a sideshow if you will. The technicality and movement of the mello voice will be heard and noticed regardless. It should compliment the main melodic statement rather then compete with it for the interest of the listener.
PR has had some really technical and obviously very talented lines in the last few years. JDShaw obviously has a special place for them in his arranging. But he often has them in such a high range that they exceed the good quality limitations of the instrument. Almost every year there is a point in the book where the mellos go into lazer-phone land or just get plain crass. I have a tough time putting them on the pedestal of best mello line because of this despite the brilliance of the technical playing. If restrained a bit and placed in a more mello-friendly register, I wonder how dark, full, and beautiful their middle voice might be? Anybody can pound the listener over the head with a sledge hammer. It takes an artist to come up and hit them between the eyes with a ball peen hammer. The effect is the same, but the latter is far more interesting and challenging.
This 10x. The crassness that's used in (a lot of, not necessarily all) orchestral music that calls for it is generally a specific effect. However, I have a hard time understanding why it is a go-to effect of the PR mellos. Don't get me wrong, in spite of this, they're still in my top 3 favorite mello sections in the activity, but it's really something I wish they wouldn't use as an identifying characteristic.
-
They know what happened to Memphis Sound at 07 Div III prelims
Boy, do I ever
-
I'm not seeing the difference. One way or another the rightful owners of a piece of (intellectual) property have lost what is rightfully theirs: royalties from those recordings. That's precisely the definition of theft, not just "a physical item gets taken."
Intellectual property is not property in the same sense that a car is. If I steal your car, you no longer have that car. If it's your only car, you have no car left whatsoever. If I write a piece of music and someone gets a copy of a score for free (say the choir premiering the composition doesn't give all the copies of the score back to me), I have lost a copy of the score, but I have not lost my work. In that case, someone stole the score, but not my work. Going further, if I get all of my copies of the score back and someone records the performance, I have still not lost my work, nor have I lost my performance. They didn't steal anything. I still have all the memories, the music, everything tangible. No actual property was stolen. Now if they then go and sell that recording without any permissions, then I am potentially out profits I could have made from having a licensed recording to sell, but if they keep the recording for their own use, I have lost nothing. In fact, as a composer, I have gained something. They think my work is worthy of recording and listening to again, possibly many times. Either way, they did not steal anything from me.
You're using "property" in too broad of a sense. That's why the law makes distinctions between physical and intellectual property. They are dealt with differently.
-
Yes, they do--as for who they are, that would be 1) the corps performing and 2) the composer(s) of the music being performed.
Boo talked about how the corps benefit from sales earlier in this thread, so I'll defer to him on that. You weren't signed onto the agreement as any sort of royalty-receiving individual and no corps would sign you on under that sort of agreement, but the corps do benefit, and royalties are also paid to those who wrote the original compositions and the publishing companies; the Harry Fox Agency handles things like mechanical licenses for instances such as this. For example, when my band covered Stevie Wonder's song Boogie On Reggae Woman, we made an agreement through that agency to pay a certain fee based on how many copies of the album were produced, which we did. Now from that point on, it was our choice to give away or not one of those copies of the recording because we'd already paid the fee, but if someone were to be able to demonstrate that we were generating other copies of the album and giving them away without updating that agreement, it could potentially result in trouble as well as damage our ability to secure future rights.
Again, you're giving examples of how sales of DCI's DVDs give money to corps and composers. I know quite well (at least as well as anyone not a copyright attorney) about copyright procedures. What I'm saying is that you cannot use the term "theft." The best you can say (and I'm not saying it's good) is "copyright infringement." The two terms are not interchangeable.
Now, if people were referring to DCI losing DVD sales due to bootleg recordings, THEN they might have more of a claim to the "theft" charge, but even then, they have to prove that DCI actually is losing sales period. Then they have to prove that it's because of bootlegs and not because DCI hikes the prices. Even DCI's ridiculous prices can't be taken to point to bootlegging as taking sales. There are just too many other small factors that have to be investigated to rule them out before you can definitively say that bootlegging is playing any part whatsoever (good or bad) in the big picture. I'm pretty sure no one has put out the cash for that research to be done.
I'm just saying that (1) illegal does not always mean wrong (2) "Theft!" can't be made into a meaningless word because you want to say something is morally wrong without proving it's either actually wrong or theft and (3) crying "loss of sales!" has to be backed up with data, otherwise you cannot make any claim as to the cause. It's the way the world works. Observe facts, report facts, draw conclusions from facts, find the truth (as much as it can be found). You don't observe personal opinion, make claims of speculation to support opinion, then draw conclusion from speculation that agrees with initial opinion and call it a day.
-
That's because you gave up any claim to those rights by becoming a member of your corps. The rights to the music are licensed by DCI and the corps (arranging, performance, and synchronization rights). You receive no residuals (unless your corps decides to distribute some of it's cut, which is highly unlikely). Drum corps composers and arrangers give up residual rights as part of their contract with the corps to write/arrange.
The recording company and engineers are paid on a contract basis by DCI. I cannot say if they have any residuals (perhaps someone in the know can comment).
Nowhere in my contract did it saying anything of giving up any rights, but you're concentrating on the wrong part of my post. I wasn't saying I was owed anything. You missed the point of my post entirely.
-
Theft is taking someone's property without their permission (whether or not payment is involved in the legal acquisition of the property in normal circumstances). The only problem here is that the "people involved in producing the original" don't get paid when DCI sells their DVDs either. I know I never saw a penny from when I marched. Now, if you mean the people who put in time to produce the DVDs . . . well, they didn't put in any time to make your recording, so they aren't owed anything. Again, you're using vague pronouns. Who, specifically, is losing money? Why are they losing it (specifically)? And how much are they losing? Furthermore, what is the actual property being taken? Without answering these, you cannot justifiably say there is theft going on.
-
And no one has yet to say exactly *how* it is stealing. They've offered vague references to lost profits with no actual data showing how it has caused any losses. However, there have been several folks who have chimed in with information on how these "bootleg" recordings either (1) introduced them to the activity or (2) gave them enough interest to purchase from DCI (I believe one guy actually ended up buying the whole Legacy Set because of the advertisement brought about by these recordings.
You can't just say, "It's stealing." because you want it to be stealing. You have to show how it actually is theft, and not this ethereal "stealing of the experience" or "taking from the corps" that has yet to be given any data-driven, fact-based, calculable evidence. I'm cool with you not liking the practice or feeling it's wrong, but you can't claim it's something without anything to back it up.
There was a rather amusing (though admittedly meant to be funny) webcomic I can't remember offhand that said something to the tune of, "Piracy is not stealing. Piracy is piracy." with a picture of someone taking an object and leaving nothing in the first frame and someone making a copy and leaving the original in the second frame.
-
Why are we even arguing over something that is illegal, and therefore wrong?
Really, Mike? Just because something is illegal it's automatically wrong? Without putting my own opinion in (because, frankly, I doubt anyone cares or that it will change their minds), I want to point out the fallacy of that quote. How do you equate legality with right/wrong? If you're going to chide people on the use of situational ethics, then you need to make a better argument than "the rules say so, so it must be wrong." There are lots of things I'd consider wrong, or morally questionable, that have been justified by laws in history.
Perhaps these people aren't so much in favor of doing something wrong as changing a rule they feel is wrong. You're completely justified in saying, "That's illegal." That's a simple, objective fact. You are not, however, in a position of moral authority to tell anyone they are doing something "wrong."
-
People like bop. That's just the truth.
That's what she said.
-
Bop . . . wasn't that a song by those Hanson sisters or something?
-
"O Magnum Mysterium" - Morton Lauridsen
Please, God, anything but Lauridsen. How that song is so popular amazes me. It's a D9 with a four note motive beaten to death. Then he essentially rewrote the thing with different words and called it Lux Aeterna. I've had to sing both before, and I wouldn't want to make anyone rehearse those for two months.
-
seconded!!!
Thirded
-
So, last year I noticed a little something in the brass-only recordings Crown offered for Finis (no deal breaker, just something that sounded like the sops might have peaked in one of the early hits). Didn't really bother me, but it wasn't like what I remembered hearing from the '05 and '07 recordings.
I just downloaded this year's brass and percussion recordings from the Fan Network, and something seems strange. I only have crappy laptop speakers and one set of cheap headphones here, so I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed anything strange. It seems like its only the highest voices in the recordings (sops and snared respectively), but it's almost as if they've been . . . I don't know, capped off. I'm no recording engineer, so I don't know what may or may not be happening, I just know that they sound almost weak, or muddy . . . though not as if they were performing badly or softly, it's sounds like a recording issue. Anyone have any idea what's up . . . or am I just suffering from the crappy headphones?
-
From http://www.memphisdrumcorps.org/downloads/foodtruck.pdf
Upon leaving the Dallas-Fort Worth area and arriving in Memphis, TN for the start of the
2009 DCI Tour, we noticed a problem with the tires of the Food Box Truck. The truck
was on the verge of blow-out for one tire, and the other three were replaced as well as a
precaution because of their condition. Once the truck was finally back on the road with
their new tires, it started to overheat. The drivers pulled into a shop to get it checked out
only to find out that the radiator had some damage, but they could not see what it was at
that shop (they were not set up for such). We took the truck to another shop and was told
this morning that the head gasket is blown and the motor is in dire shape. The cost to
repair the truck is now more than the truck is worth, and even if it is repaired, it will be
down for 2 weeks at a minimum. Since we use the truck for storage of food both
perishable and non, this means we are shifting to contingency plans while we are looking
for another truck. (Refrigerator and Deep Freezer run off the motor of the truck or are
plugged into the wall at each housing site, causing some customization for standard box
trucks to be able to work).
The corps is still eating well thanks to volunteers and some empty bus bays to store food,
but we are working hard to get a replacement situation on track.
The biggest issue currently is freezer/refrigerator items which we are carrying in ice
chests with dry ice currently.
How you can help:
- Sponsor a Meal for the Corps -
http://www.memphisdrumcorps.org/sponsorevent.htm
Volunteer to Prepare a meal for the corps when we are close to you
- Make a Donation of Canned Food/Pasta/Non-perishable product
- Make a Donation on http://www.memphisdrumcorps.org through the Paypal
Widget or send a check to Food Truck Fund c/o MYPAA; 1779 Kirby Parkway,
Suite # 1-93 Memphis, Tennessee 38138
- Volunteer to be a runner for the corps. Since we do not have our normal storage
capacity, we will be increasing runs to Wal-Mart/Grocery Stores and can use the
help of local folks while on tour to achieve these runs.
- Donations of Grocery Store and Gas Gift Cards. These are always welcome items
around Drum Corps, but especially now, it can ease the additional burden the
corps is having to bear.
We want to thank the volunteers and supporters who have already stepped up and help us
in this situation. We are eternally grateful. Every little bit helps, so if you are able, please
consider a donation of your time, money, or food.
- Sponsor a Meal for the Corps -
-
If I don't like staff involved with the show once the corps is on the field
Whew. Good thing the drumline's not really on the field until after pre-show, or there'd be a problem since Crown would have the whole corps on the field
-
I Think I speak for every founding and past member by saying good luck and we hate to see our uniform, memories, traditions, rituals, sayings, name, directors, area of location, go.
Good luck, yes. But other than that, you don't speak for every alum. Not by far. And I certainly don't appreciate you claiming that for the rest of us in such a negative way when it's painfully obvious to me from your statements you haven't been that involved with the corps in the past year at all.
Chris, you're awesome. Keep on helping my corps not only stay alive, but to flourish and grow.
-
4shared.com. It's free.
-
I also love that there are small little clips here and there in Crown's closer/end of ballad that are reminiscent of each show from '04 - '08.
-
More brass. Please
-
Again, this is not true. The background runnings in this group have always have a very visible appearance to members.... and you being a fmm should know that.
They were very visible to some members, but not all of them. The group of members to whom the organization's operations were visible changed from year to year, but it wasn't always visible to everyone. That's why (at least from what I can tell) there are a lot of alumni that don't know anything about what's happening. That's also why I'm quite appreciative of Chris and the administration. They're being proactive about releasing information to members and alumni.
-
If you really wanted to make it work in TN, you could find a high school to house at. You sure as hell did NOT try hard to find one. I know some tiny schools that would be more than happy to host camps and such.
Didn't try hard to find one? You obviously weren't there to see what went on. However, if you'd known of such locations when Mempho was begging for information for the past three years, it would have been nice for you to speak up then instead pulling an "I told you so" now.
And as far as members having to travel from Texas, well... How do the big boys ever get members to fly or travel to their location? With the constant turnover in staff until now, why would a member travel so far???? But if consistency was achieved, why wouldn't member travel far?You ask valid questions. However, the simple fact remains that the Texas membership, even with staff turnover, was greater than the Memphis area, so the why is kind of a moot point.
You talk of reaching out to alumni... I can think of MANY that had no clue any of this was happening until our mass 3 email pre-press releases....and the dozens of angry facebook status updates about how OUR corps is gone...And I can think of just as "MANY" who are happy that OUR corps will not go the way of the dodo. And a Facebook status is like a kneejerk reaction. Wait until they calm down and encourage them to call Chris and ask questions. See how many change their minds then.
Memphis' organization has always had its own strange situations and problems, but the majority of members never knew about it because they were there to do a job, not run the business of a corps. I'm sure if they learn about the circumstances surrounding this decision without blinders on, they'll at least understand, even if they still disagree.
Size of people marching
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
Posted
Not saying it's the norm, but tell that to the fellow who was told by one of last year's top 4, "You've got the chops, and you're great with the visual, but you stick out like a sore thumb when we look at the [snare] line. You're just too tall." He was lucky he was able to find a spot playing set in the pit with another corps at that late of a date (I believe it was April-ish).