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I marched Scouts 77-78. Im in the Kilties Marching with Cathy Delano PR 78-80 and we have a point of disagreement.
I told her I recall walking by the Regiment rifle line sometime in 77 or 78 and they were in a circle holding hands doing show prep I guess singing "Never Walk Alone". She says I'm crazy. So I asked Annette Fazzari, she said no but she didnt march rifle until 78 as well. So I'm asking if this ever happened in 77. Or am I just misremembering things??
Thanks!
The singing of the song was not a tradition, but there was a time or two (and I'm thinking winter guard '77), where we did sing this song. That's how I learned the words to it. You are probably remembering correctly.
PR- Rifle '77, '78
VK-Rifle '76 Summer
Royal Regiment-Rifle '76 Winter Guaurd
AK-Rifle '75 Winter Guard
Kingsmen Cadets-Rifle '74
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For those of you who marched DCI in Denver, back in the 70's, who remembers, if you can, this place?
Casa Bonita!! Full Corps dinners the night before finals in both '77 and '78. Regiment also took us (under duress) both years to the Flying W Ranch. Anyone else remember it?
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Nancy said:
It was an opportunity missed.I'm not on the KAC Comittee or the Star Corps BOD, but there are some positive aspects to fielding the alumni corps prior to the junior corps IMO. One being that the formation of the KAC has created an extensive constituency for the junior corps. This is huge for a fledgling organization like the Star Corps. When managed properly, this constituency will be a tremendous, long-term resource for the Star Corps in terms of it's ongoing organizational development. Just think of the fundrasing and volunteer recruitment opportunities that exist now that an alumini/supporter base has been built prior to the Star Corps ever stepping on the field. It could have taken the Star Corps decades to build up this kind of base from their own alumni/supporters.
Another advantage to fielding the KAC first is the promotion and exposure it affords to the Star Corps. The 2006 Mt. SAC show, the 2006 Anaheim Halloween Parade, the Loud Music Symposium, the 2007 NAMM show, the 2007 4th of July Concert with the Pacific Symphony, 2007 Impulse Show, and DCI in Pasadena are all important opportunities to re-introduce the Kingsmen name, its championship history, and its ethos to potential members and supporters, thus paving the way for the Star Corps.
One last plus to forming the KAC first is that the relationships and resources that have been established to support the KAC could in large part be used to support the Star Corps. The average age of a KAC member is 48 years old. We are accomplished adults with experience, talent, and resources who are committed to the succes of the junior corps. Surely the Star Corps will benefit.
I see the formation of the KAC as a strategem for the junior corps' success rather than a missed opportunity.
Kelly
2007 KAC
PR-Rifle '77. '78
VK-Rifle '76
Royal Regiment-Rifle '76 Winter Guard
Kingsmen-Rifle '75 Winter Guard
Kingsmen Cadets-'73,'74
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Speaking as one who was there, I recall that many of us were aware that there was an equipment drop during the performance but were absolutely convinced that we had won the night in spite of it. Given that, why on earth would we ever have blamed her for the loss? As someone else pointed out, we were a long way from scoring a perfect 100. Although all the members of the Regiment strived for perfection, lots of other folks had imperfect performances that night.
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It absolutely ACHED every summer for about 10 years after it was over. Knowing full well that I was supposed to be on the field!
This is the main reason I didn't attend many shows the first few years after leaving corps. It just hurt too much. I didn't age-out, but my parent's rule was once high school was over, drum corps was over. Not a bad plan in retrospect and I was not fool enough to turn down the "parentship" for college, but have always regretted not working harder to find a way to make both happen.
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Nashville, TN to Riverside, CA. First trip was to the recent 4 day camp. More trips between now and week long camp in August of 2007. Lots of practice at home!
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Hi, All,
Well, I knew those stupid stairs were going to get me eventually. This morning, I missed the last two or three stair steps and came down hard on my ankle. It is slightly swollen but doesn't look too bad, yet. But I can barely put my wait on it and it hurts like crazy. I'm concerned about it not healing by this weekend's rehearsal and competition. What can I do to speed recovery process?
Thanks, Elizabeth
I roll my ankles all the time, so I know the answer to this. RICE! Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevate. Ice and elevation is most effective when done immediately after the injury, but sometimes isn't possible.
Rest:
The first 24-48 hours after the injury is considered a critical treatment period and activities need to be curtailed. Gradually put as much weight on the involved ankle as tolerated and discontinue crutch use when you can walk with a normal gait (with minimal to no pain or limp).
Ice:
For the first 48 hours post-injury, ice pack and elevate the ankle sprain 20 minutes at a time every 3-4 hours. The ice pack can be a bag of frozen vegetables (peas or corn), allowing you to be able to re-use the bag.
Compression:
Use compression when elevating the ankle sprain in early treatment. Using an Ace bandage, wrap the ankle from the toes all the way up to the top of the calf muscle, overlapping the elastic wrap by one-half of the width of the wrap. The wrap should be snug, but not cutting off circulation to the foot and ankle. So, if your foot becomes cold, blue, or falls asleep, re-wrap!
Elevate:
Keep your ankle sprain higher than your heart as often as possible. Elevate at night by placing books under the foot of your mattresses--just stand up slowly in the morning.
More severe ankle sprain injuries, including complete tears of the ligaments and fractures of the bone may need different treatment and rehab than a simple ankle sprain. It is important that you see your doctor before beginning treatment or if your symptoms do not steadily improve over time.
See this for more: http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstr...klesprain_2.htm
If it's a garden variety sprain, you should be ready to go by the weekend. I'd continue to wrap, ice, and elevate (when you get a chance) over the next weekend's rehearsal and competition. I get good results with ibuprofen for pain management. If you have no improvement over the next couple of days. You should go to your doctor.
Hope this helps.
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Let's see if I can turn this thread over to 700 (
) with a great picture from Guardsmen, 1979. This is beautiful Kathy Hill, all 5 feet of her. This girl carried a pair of 18" cymbals for at least 3 years in a row!!
I would venture a safe bet to say that although she was small in stature... she could hurt you big time if she
let loose with a punch!! One of the sweetest girls to march in Guardsmen as well...
Thanks to Tom Scheffler for the photo
What a great picture of Kathy. I know this girl. She dated my brother who was a snare drummer in the Phantom Regiment from 77-79. Me and guy I knew double dated to the Crystal Lake High School Homecoming Dance in the Fall of 1977. She was a very sweet girl.
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Actually it was 1977 that Phantom Regiment changed to the yellow Beethoven flags during the company front in Beethoven's 9th. In 1978, we went with identical double flags for concert and that was totally inspired by 27th's use of double flags and we reprised the yellow flags in the closer. Also in '78, the rifle line used small flags on a short pole that was the length of and manuevered like a sabre. We used three different flags on those. Red/orange/silver in Fiirebird Suite, traditional corps flag in concert, and yellow Beethoven flags in the closer.
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Wow.... different perspectives on Stanley. When I was 15, he seemed to be a creepy old man to me. And he was very gray haired.
Just how old was he REALLY when he died?
I think Stanley passed away in 2002. That would have put him at maybe 51 or 52. He was in his mid-twenties when the posted picture was taken. He was passionate, dynamic, demanding and very talented.
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So to me, Madison's show is more a sign of the times than a flawed choice in programming. After all, if Madison was flawed, then so was pretty much everyone else; Santa Clara, Phantom and Blue Devils are the only corps I can recall from that period who were making a concerted effort to tie everything together stylistically, rather than having an obvious off-the-line, drum solo, concert, production number and closer, all of which needed to be completely contrasting numbers in order to work.
Perhaps SCV's, PR's, and BD's efforts to "stylize" their programs is one of the reasons they all placed in the top three. If so, that would make Madison's program choice "flawed". Tieing things together stylistically from a show design standpoint must have been valued as it continued and seems to be alive and well today. At any rate, I loved that guard's performance. Much tighter than their '77 performance.
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Mine usually consist warming up with line then I can't find the corps
and I'm running with my drum into the stadium looking for them.
(strange)
I just had this one recently. I'd forgotten it until I saw this post. A maze of stairs and I'm going up and down.... Anxiety about the 2007 Kingsmen Alumni Corps performance and that's like 16 months away. Doesn't bode well for my stress level the next several months!
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My problem with the 77 and 78 productions is that the producer (at least for Scouts) seemed to be in love with the rifle line. Not only were the cameras on them for extended lengths of time but even when the corps was doing something important. In 77 Officer Krupke, in a company front half the corps goes down on one knee to match the lyric "Dear Officer Krupke, we're down on our knees" But you would never know there was a company front because the camera was on the rifle line!
I don't own any of the other Legacy DVDs. I'm hoping that they have improved in terms of getting the whole corps. In '78, Regiment's field coverage was huge and the shots were focused in so tight that many times the corps looks small and sometimes appears as if we didn't even have a flag line. I'm sure I'm stating the obvious. Rifles in the two years we're talking about get a lot of face time because they are often front and center in the drill. It's easy to get them.
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Over the years, I have dreamed that I am back in corps. That I am overaged, but for some reason, that's okay. Or I dream that it's back in the day and I'm 17 again. In almost all of the dreams, I can't remember the drill. Last night I dreamed that I'd left the house without the baby. My babies are 16 and 21. What do you suppose that means?
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I experience the same thing with my '77 and '78 Legacy DVDs. I don't feel like I got ripped off though. No expert here for sure. I just figured that DCI put together the best product that they could given the technology at the time the shows were originally filmed and the condition of that film when the Legacy DVDs were produced.
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Hi Kelly,
I remember them doing inspections in Comp Guard in 74. Do you remember them in 75 or was 74 the last year? I marched with you in the Kingsmen 75 Comp Guard and remember you from the Kings Lancers. I can't wait to see you in June!
Anyways, back to the topic. I liked the tic system because it made you clean equipment work or you would get a tic. Most guards today are so dirty in their equipment work. Just my 2 cents!
Hey Vickie:
Honestly, I don't remember ever standing for inspection. But if the Kingsmen had inspections for '74 comp guard, the B corps guard must have had them too. I do remember for a fact that I never stood for inspection in the Regiment and that was '77 and '78. I do agree that the tic system made for very clean equipment work. Guards had to find a balance between "demand" and "what could be cleaned". I've never enjoyed "demand" for "demand's sake".
Off topic: I remember you fondly, Vickie and so looking forward to June. In the meantime, I'm practicing all by my lonesome.
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I posted this way back- SCV 71
I knew it! I've enjoyed going through all of the pictures on this thread. I just didn't remember that I'd seen this photo until I saw it again!
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Didn't Marcus-Whitman High School spin two rifles first? Like in the late 70s at WGI? And I believe they did it at two different tempos.
Do you mean "first" as in before Cavaliers did it or do you mean "first ever"? Although I never saw it, I remember hearing that SCV rifles spun two rifles at the same time. This would have been in the early '70's. Does anyone else remember this?
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I didn't get to actually see North Star much when I was marching and I'm embarrassed to say that I never go very deep into my 1978 Legacy DVD, but I did the other day. They had a great rifle line! Clean and snappy. Really enjoyed watching them.
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Help an old timer out. When did the approach of not utlilizing all guard members for all segments of the show begin? I've followed corps and WGI very loosely since the early 80's and didn't really understand that this was being done. I knew that some times sections of the guard would disappear momentarily for costume or equipment changes, but didn't realize that the number of guard on the field at any given time varied like you all have described. Just curious as to when the trend began.
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Right now, doing some range of motion stuff with a bum knee that I'm trying to prepare for high mark time with the Kingsmen Alumni Corps.
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Inspections fell by the wayside long before (not sure exactly when) the tic system was no longer utilized. I don' recall ever standing for inspection after the mid-70's.
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Is the new Kingsmen junior corps really going to be called the Anaheim Kingsmen Starcorps
Just Kingsmen Starcorps for now.
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I was this character and wore this costume in the Phantom Regiment at the first ever WGI Championship in 1978.
some old corps photos
in Historical Junior Corps Discussions
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The photo is post '78 and probably post '79. The tunic aka waiters jackets and the gauntlets are exactly the same that were used in the late 70's. We had the brooch in the late 70's as well, probably earlier. Note the citation cord in the photo. We did not have those pre-'79. You can see the silks in the background (looks like a fire/sun motif going on there) and I can't place those so I'm thinking the photo has to be '80 or later. I didn't see Regiment again until 1984. By then even the tunic was completely different. This photo can't be from '86. I can't believe they would replace newer tunics with those cheesey waiters jackets that we wore in the late '70's. If I were guessing, I'd say the photo had to be early 80's.