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  1. When I marched in 2000 (mind you I was in a Div II corps) the seeding for prelims was done by score averaging. We did not make it to one of the regionals and even though we had done relatively decent at the 3 regionals we did compete in, we went on first at prelims as a result of our missed regional being factored in as 0.00. Obviously this was like a billion years ago by drum corps standards, and with the rules changing daily, who knows. But it used to be, you miss a regional, you get a 0, no matter who you are. Maybe someone can clarify with a more recent example?

  2. I talked to one of the DCI staffers on Finals night and was told that the paid attendance was 29,000. Now you take that and factor in all the 2/3 corps and their staffs in attendance and the Div 1 corps that didn't make the finals show and you are probably sitting close to 34 or 35 thousand. Now that is a far cry from 50,000, but when you look at all the other corporations in this country that spend billions of dollars finding anyway they can to sell their product to you and me, if the attendance total gets a few more people to watch the broadcast and become new drum corps fans, then its OK by me. I see both sides of the argument, but realistically, I want to see the fan base of the activity grow. I am not insecure with the fan base now or worried that they might leave, because if they do thats their choice, but to keep selling the number of seats and keep this activity rolling for future generations we need to expand the fan base. And we live in a day and age where someone is more likely to check something new out on TV for free than pay the ticket price as they see a Drum Corps show going on as they drive by. Maybe they would like it. Who knows? But at least this way they have a better chance of seeing it. Sorry for the stream of conciousness and jumping around.

    Chris Wendt

    (the opinions posted on this forum are that of Chris Wendt and not those of any group that he is or has been affiliated with) :P

  3. The use of the amps in our show this year was because early on in the season we had a really good balance between field and frontline sound. But as the season progressed, so did the volume of the hornline and this caused the drumline to bring their volumes up as well, and thusly buried the frontline completely. There were a couple of times I turned to the pit instructor and said,"I used to like that lick there, did you take it out?" and the answer was no, it was still there, just inaudible. So, the decision to use the amps was the best for the corps. Without them we would have lost the sound of the awesome frontline we had this year! And we wouldn't want that :)

    Chris Wendt

    CS Visual Caption Head 2005

    *edited for spelling and general stupidity in the use of the English language*

  4. Props ARE for the judges.

    if you need props , design better.

    taste is a individual thing.

    I am going to agree to disagree with you on this one because you seem to be in a tunnel right now. But I will throw down my feelings on your comments as this is a forum and I can do that :) Now, you say taste is an individual thing. Why then cannot the use of props be the same? An individual thing. You make the finite statement that all props are for judges. I disagree. In this subjective judging system of today, the only caption that the props(in this case Postcards) will affect is GE Visual. However, the understanding that these props may provide to the audience, I believe is much greater. I do not believe that Greg Orwoll or any of the Colts staff or members is expecting to jump in score because of these props. Because the prop does not make your show cleaner, your hornline play more in tune, your drumline any tighter. But it does help feed the storyline for the spectator. As for your statement about the shows design, the show designers probably had the idea for these mammoth postcards from the start and IDK if you have seen their show, but it is designed pretty darn well now. All I am saying is if you are going to have an open mind on the things you like, then have an open mind on the things others like as well. We haven't even seen these on the field yet and already you are ready to set them on fire. Give them a chance and then, if you don't like them, fine. No problem. Too often in this activity, I feel like people don't like or like things based on their success before in other groups and other shows. Just take a step back for a moment and appreciate things for what they are and make your judgements based on how well things work for the corps you are watching, not how what they did is lame because Corps A or Corps B did it before. Holy longer than I wanted Batman. Thanks for reading my rant. Back under my rock for now.

    Chris

  5. I for one HATE props as much as AMPS.

    big giant things . watching kids load them in and out of stadiums.

    how do you judge a postcard , a chess piece , a ladder or a sundial  ??

    how do you judge singing ? do you take points away for a amp shorting out ? or being too loud ??

    ITS DRUM CORPS PEOPLE>

    play , march , athletics , giving 100% , remember.

    not Props , Amps ,and Singing.

    I am sure THE COLTS show will be just as enjoyable listening to the music , watching the drill , and watching them perform without GIANT PROPS>

    just a nickle.

    LL

    Sounds to me like you think the only reason anyone does anything in Drum Corps is for the judges. What about creating an effect for the people who pay the money to sit in the stands. Not everything in drum corps is about scores. Think about some of the great shows of the 90's SCV Miss Saigon, Phantom '95, any VK year. Those shows wouldn't have been the same without the use of props. Amps and singing I can agree with, but to stifle a creative part of drum corps that has been used before and used tastefully I can't. That's my nickel.

    Chris Wendt

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