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After reading the first post, I will admit that I had to go check to make sure of the year.
The people you mention (Rodriiguez and Quigley) have been running Revo into the ground for so long... The corps has survived solely on the determination and the talented backs of the young musician athletes and assorted caption heads who these clowns have run off year after year... Then, somehow, these kids rally against the awful mismanagement and keep going.
DCI does know about them. In my time as a parent there, I had Dan Acheson's phone number and email and kept myself in his ear. The problem was they saw each event as a single 'solvable' problem and wouldn't look at the problem as a whole that reoccurred annually.
Whether it's about the survival of d-3/open class drum corps as being necessary on its own (it is), or it's about these open class corps being necessary because they continue to supply musician athletes to the larger world class corps after they're ready to 'move up' (they are), it is well past time that DCI looks into the fiscal and financial fitness and history of corps like this.before letting them continue to compete.
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After finishing 5th in last week's Open Class Finals, Revolution erupted. Just hours after the event, the corps chief administrators, Johnny Rodriguez and Mike Quigley, announced they would be resigning their day-to-day rolls with the corps. They pointed out, however, that they will retain control of the corps from behind the scenes. During that same meeting, they told the corps that their participation in the World Prelims was in jeopardy as the bus company was threatening to head back to Texas, for non-payment. Corps members were asked to each contribute an extra $100 to help pay the bus company. We've been part of the corps for years. Last minute financial solicitations, like this, are not uncommon at Revolution. I'm not sure how much "extra money" was collected, but an 11th hour deal was apparently reached and the buses rolled-on from Michigan City to Indianapolis.
In the wake of that news, on Thursday... the day of the World Class Prelims... news came that revolutions entire percussion staff, as well as several other staff members, has been fired. Anyone who has followed Revolution knows that it has historically been a corps built around it's driving percussion section. Now, all of the professionals who were responsible for that drum line, are gone... just like that. In protest of the terminations, all members of the battery refused to participate in Friday's parade. They (especially those who had been part of the drum line for years) wanted answers that they could not get. To save face, Revolution gathered a few of the corps front ensemble members, strapped drums to them and had them play in the parade.
As if all of this was not enough, on Friday morning a remaining staff member, who was put in charge, told me he was trying to get other corps (especially Crossmen, because they're from San Antonio too) to try and get the kids, who refused to participate in the parade, a ride home. When I asked why that would even be necessary, he told me that Rodriguez had left explicit instructions that those who did not participate in the parade would not be allowed on the buses and would have to find their own way back to Texas. When I asked where Rodriguez and Quigley were (I wanted to talk to them), he told me they had left back to Texas the night before.
Make no mistake about it, John and Mike, this post is designed to both expose what happened and to call you out. I hope you will see it as an opportunity to explain your actions which, on the surface, seem neither rational or acceptable.
Dan Delgado
4-year Revolution Parent
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I have two seats for Finals and Semis that I can't use.
Sec 337, Row 2, Seats 20 & 21
Face value gets 'em. PM me if you're interested.
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You know, sometimes all you can do in replying to a moron is to say thank you politely for expressing their 1st Amendment right to free speech then seek out intelligent dialogue or a good book and a cold beer by the pool. I think I'll settle for the latter.
Oh...and it sure is nice to have our kids back in state now. Hope you all enjoyed them in all of the corps. How many Texans marched in YOUR favorite corps this year??
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects 'stupid man' explicitly from the Congress, not from DCP or from me.
To think...we Texans have been in charge of scheduling DCI finals all these years and I haven't done anything to get them scheduled on my days off, what was I thinking?
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I just wanted to see what people thought of this.......
I would like to see totally random order of appearance
Reasons:
(1) Why should a corps who won or has been top 5 for awhile get 2-3 extra hours every tour day??
Meanwhile, that corps that was 15th has to be there early every night............
Well...without any 'real' retreat, isn't everybody but the DM of the 15th corps already getting 2-3 extra hours already? ....of rest?
(2) Fans will be on time if the 1st corps on may be the show winner, and thus ALL competitors will perform to a full audience.OAP shouldn't even be announced to the fans..........only tell the corps in advance, so they can plan accordingly......
...this one I like.
(3) Judges should not enter any show with any "preconceived" notion about where the corps stands competitively, eitheroverall or in their caption. Granted, they will have judged them before, but a corps contest should be like a good
horserace.....it shouldn't matter whether you got out of the gate fast or not, only where you end up......
Random order will highly discourage the judge from "slotting" according to current ranking.......order of appearance
should be meaningless when judging a show.
I just think it would take the judges longer to get their scores down...to get their 'slotting' right before the next corps steps off.
(3) Yes, you will have some situations......if they 14th place corps has to go on after the champion, there is going to be adrop in level....however, in the long run, this kind of thing is going to make number 14 perform better, and it won't
hurt number one....
or you could have #3 perform two times? ...jk
(4) in 1988, prelim scores were not announced, and they grouped the finalists in 2 random groups of 6.....the top 6, andthe remaining 6 finalists.....they only did that for TV, so that the top 6 would be aired live. However, nobody knew
their placement, and the finals judges didn't know placements or scores coming in, either. I thought that it was
great. I had a major argument with a member of the judging community over this. They stated they didn't think
it was good, as you didn't see the top 2 back to back to make a call for the championship. My response to them was,
"what if the 4th or 5th place corps does the show of the night.....or is it always just a top 2 thing.......there was no
response by the judge...." Another thing...we have no live TV to worry about anymore, either.....
I like this too...this year, I think this would be cool...I haven't got any horse in the top 6, but it would be fun to have an open draw on top 6 for 'the' night without any semi scores posted until after Finals.....
(5) At nationals, all the world class corps would draw a number (this year from 1st to 22nd) for order of appearance.At the end of quarterfinals, the 22nd place through 18th place corps would be announced along with their scores.
The names only of the top 17 semifinalists who are advancing would be named. They would draw for appearance
for semifinals.
(6) At the end of semifinals, the 17th through 13th place corps would be announced along with their scores. The namesonly of the top 12 finalists who are advancing would be named. They would draw for order of appearance at finals.
After finals, the finals scores would be read in the normal fashion, and then the quarterfinal and semifinal scores of
the finalists would also be released.
(7) The finals panel should be "sequestered" an hour away, until being shuttled to the stadium on finals night, and theyshould only know the names of the top 12 finalist corps and the order of appearance that was drawn....that's it.
......seems like the judges are already treated like a bunch of dead presidents in green polos....sequestering.....released only for Finals w/out prev knowledge of the order....these are always going to be the same people that have seen the corps all summer long...I don't think sequestering them is going to do anything but inflate their artificial imprortance
I know that there are many who like the whole seeding thing, but I never did. At any rate, if you like the idea of random appearance orders and no seeding, let it be known. If you like seedings, like it is, ok.GB
They are 'ranked' going in.....but I do like the idea of getting the chance to see/judge without being told, "this is number two...we think they are better than number three, but not as good as number one....now for the 'competition'..."
number four is my fav idea.....
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sounded perfectly fin. i think that if they had put a score there the other scores after would have been different.
....and if the world were flat we would fall off sailing to China.
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Wife is heading there, called and asked who has the encore?
Anyone know?
I think Glassmen do it at their home show....
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....and in a technology sharing arrangement with NASA, the role of 'high camera' will now be played by the Hubble Space Telescope.
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Seems down right now; maybe they're uploading Allentown already?
yeah, okay...you win....me too now
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I've been okay here all day...what's the issue?
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A shofar is a bell-front brass instrument so...yes!
Now I just need to know where to find those shofars in G. Those were always louder, you know.
haha...but if a a shofar is a bell-front brass instrument, wouldn't a half-filled perrier bottle be closer to a woodwind? (flute-ish?)
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That's a significant drop for Blue Stars, eh?
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...anybody have access to the four wet people in the stadium?
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...Well that's a funny question.
If they had the best show, and they performed it the best, they should absolutely win.
They don't have the best show, and they aren't performing their show as well as a handfull of other corps are performing their shows right now. I did really enjoy them at San Antonio though. I was glad they weren't as bad off as I was reading...
If Pioneer had the best show this year, would you be okay with them winning? ....same question, without the bias?
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I have the exact opposite feeling of this year. I like this year a LOT less than previous years. In fact, this year is so dull, I would have to say the last time we had a year this dull was 2005. All of this is just my opinion, of course.
Oh, and just off the top of my head...
There have been quite a few years where two corps have played the same music (though not full shows, just pieces, etc..). Here's just one for now: 1993: Madison Scouts and Blue Devils play "Strawberry Soup" (Madison as their next to last tune, Blue Devils as their closer (with a tag on the end).
...or, more recently... in '07 Blue Devils, Blue Stars, and Phantom all dusted off Firebird Suite...by the end of the night I was wondering what was going on.
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I've never....EVER been to a drum corps show where it was like recess. Y'know, maybe people get up because they have to use the restroom. Atlanta did go on for more than seven hours.
...but if they can't wait 12 minutes to go to the restroom, they might actually BE in the 3rd grade.
There's nothing wrong with asking somebody to respect the $50 ticket that the other people in the row paid to see the show by not walking in front of them for 12 minutes!
...that's not unreasonable. It's courtesy.
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This is San Antonio and Atlanta, and the margin of victory necessary at Allentown to move up a spot.
...assuming all others remain static?
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Decent night for BK, they stopped the bleeding and are barely ahead of the Glassmen at the moment. Here's to hoping that they start to get their act together.
....heard they had a brand new member tonight too that just learned (almost) the drill.....oh well, maybe next time.
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just go off Murf scores same judges or just go gadsen and murfs scores. they seemed to be almost the same as the first night murfs scores. what makes it not fair for glassmen is there were 3 days in between those scores when others had back to back scores.
...this just seems like a silly argument, because it is what it is.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but I am sure that BK wouldn't mind skipping those extra shows too and just averaging a score from 3-ish days earlier (was it the 21st?) ...that would throw in an 84.45 for them to average into the Murf score.... but come on! not fair? seriously?
There has to be some way to come up with placement. Would you suggest that every other corps has to average two of three shows and the Glassmen use a single score to determine their placement?
okay....sorry......stepping away.
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It make sense to go by just the Murf. shows. Same panel both nights and on the same captions. If you start adding different panels, score and placement could be not consistent.
...similar sort of issue before the San Antonio show, wasn't it? Two different shows (Houston and Dallas) on two different nights with two different judging panels? Placement was determined based on the avg of all corps, scored at those two different shows?
...isn't new or unique.
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anyone figure out how glassmen are before BK?
I'm couldn't begin to tell you what DCI did, but since Gmen didn't play both shows, if you went back for their last two shows for an avg, it actually is fractionally lower than BK's avg last two shows..... other than that, I haven't any idea.
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Congratulations Chris...
...both for you, and for the kids. It's good to see you in a position where you can grow something awesome!
See you next year!
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Commentary videos are awesome! I hope this is an ongoing thing for FN and DCI. I would really like to have a 'commentary' option on this years Finals DVD.
Mark Sylvester was great....I think I could drink a Guinness and smoke a cigar with this guy.
Fan Network Live Streams of Shows ?
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This year has been a total bust for me. Full price for exactly zer0 drum corps. The one show I stayed home to watch was a terrible connection and feed. ...finally just gave up on it.
I will have to take time off to watch Finals - the inability to watch later when I am away was the piece of info that would have killed the sale for me. ...too anxious for my drum corp fix - no 'fine print' was read.
My guess is that next year when it's 'time to buy DCI' streaming for the season, I won't.