KiltieBD3
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I enjoyed the article, but where are these legions of local, veteran supported corps? That may have been true 20 years ago, but not today. Where are the local non-DCI shows? I don't see any. For junior drum corps fan activity, the choice is DCI or nothing.
July 27th in Racine, WI will be an all DCA line-up with most, if not all, Minnesota Corps, Kilties and I am sure others.
On the previous comment about expensess and time commitment. They are significantly less. For example Kilties is pretty modest even compared to some other DCA corps at $300 for the season with a few out of pocket expenses for lodging and food. But administration has done a good job to minimize that expense as well. They are also weekend only with only 2 or 3 weekdays during the season for performances (home show and DCA finals). Just to give those an idea that may be thinking of another option to DCI.
Now for a cheap plug...Kilties home show is June 28th at Horlick Field. See www.kilties.com for details
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WOW! Thanks for the great responses folks. One concern I have been told to be aware of with the Powermax is that the sound is so clean that it can magnify every tick that younger, less experienced players have, especially on the top drum. What is your experience with this? I am all about having a good clean bass sound, but if it's going to be a detriment, I need to go a different direction.
IDK. I mean if the line has a bunch of ticks for players you are going to hear them no matter what head you have on the drum. A late attack or missed beats in a run are pretty obvious.
Most HS lines bass sections are made up of the least experienced players (which is a mistake).
Overall if these heads are "cleaner" use it to your advantage and really focus on getting that bass line on point. IMO, a good bass line has more impact on the overall line then a strong snare or tenor section.
Another suggestion is to not write over the bass lines heads as far as runs are concerned. If you have to, break it down to the check patterns and then slowly add the meat back in once the check pattern flows and confidence increases.
Bass lines are usually bad because of confusion and lack of attention. If anything they need more work then any other section in the drumline because it involves more precision with timing and knowing how parts line up with their feet.
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how do you only get 4 1/2 tenors?
Spare parts maybe?
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I could be wrong but I think Brandon Estes was...not positive though.
I'm sure the drums are a pretty good shape of course relative to the fact they spent at least year touring. Are these the Silver Ludwigs? If so I carried a set of tenors in the Oktoberfest Parade. Pretty solid. Little on the heavy side compared to most of the other manufacturers.
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Na'ah...I was in a very good community band for several years and we sold real tickets for real music in real venues. Did we get paid? No. But we were professional in the sense that people were paying money to see/hear us perform.
Terminology, I know. But I like the term "professional marching band." Better than coming across as a bitter former member who sounds loco for arguing about terminology.
"Professional marching band" = step up.
Arguing about corps/band = step down.
What Bill was getting at with that is a Corps using the word professional could have potential for other ramifications.
But I digress..
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... there is high school marching band, college marching band, and professional marching band (drum corps).
I don't know if I would term Drum Corps as "Professional" Marching band
I usually just call it what is, Drum Corps and explain the differences.
The word "Professional" leads one to believe people involved in the said activity are being paid for what they do. Which outside of staff isn't the case.
I was always brought up and instructed that the difference between to the two were Marching Band was done in HS and College and Drum Corps was where the best of the best went to compete at a high level, minus Woodwinds.
There is probably where the confusion lies for most when comes to the difference between Marching Band & Drum Corps. The only real noticable difference between the two to those unfamiliar is the lack of Woodwinds. That's it. Outside of that they all do the same thing.
Drums; check. Horns; check. Flags, Rifles, Sabres; check. Movement coordinated to musical phrases; check. Uniforms; check. Entertaining; Check.
I get the anaolgy of "I would be mad if my Hockey Team was called a Figure Skating team" but I think a more appropiate comparison would be Ice Hockey to Roller Hockey. One obvious difference but when it comes down to it they are both Hockey.
IMO
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Remo Powermax FTW!
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i may be in the minority but i think dci IS the minor leagues. in any sport the kids and younger and less experience is the minors. go ahead and bash me now.
Sorry to pee in the pool but by that logic then the Senior PGA Tour is the better league then the PGA?
It's a marketing slogan guys. They are trying to peak interest in a dying community. If it pulls in more people to a corps great. Don't get your undies all knotted up over it. It's just good marketing. Maybe DCA should take heed.
I mean I barely had heard of DCA until I starting marching in one in 2005 but I was exposed to DCI way back in 93 and have loved it ever since.
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Brass is marching in several DCI shows.
Drum Beauty June 23 with Chops & the Govies
Mankato June 24 with Govies
Milwaukee June 28 with Kilties & Chops
Coon Rapids June 29 with Chops & the Govies
I know the Renegades do all DCI shows to prep for finals.
I think June 28th is Madison for Brass. Don't want people driving to Milwaukee when they are suppose to me 2 hours west of there ;-)
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Some the shows Kilts have done in the past are DCI/DCA shows. Using this season as an example:
Kiltie Klassic June 27th, Racine WI
Blue Stars - LaCrosse, WI
Boston Crusaders - Boston, MA
The Cadets - Allentown, PA
Capital Sound - Madison, WI
Kilties - Racine, WI
Pioneer - Milwaukee, WI
Revolution - San Antonio, TX
Troopers - Casper, WY
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DCI Madison - Drums On Parade, Madison WI
Blue Knights - Denver, CO
Blue Stars - LaCrosse, WI
Bluecoats - Canton, OH
Boston Crusaders - Boston, MA
The Cadets - Allentown, PA
Capital Sound - Madison, WI
Carolina Crown - Ft. Mill, SC
The Cavaliers - Rosemont, IL
Chops, Inc. - Minneapolis, MN
Colt Cadets - Dubuque, IA
Crossmen - San Antonio, TX
Glassmen - Toledo, OH
Kilties - Racine, WI
Madison Scouts - Madison, WI
Minnesota Brass, Inc. - St. Paul, MN
Pioneer - Milwaukee, WI
Racine Scouts - Racine, WI
Revolution - San Antonio, TX
Spirit - Jacksonville, AL
Troopers - Casper, WY
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yup those bottom spots will be tough. i wouln't want to be the kilts. they will need to come east a few times to get up to speed.
I disagree. In a fun loving sort of way.
In all seriousness, this is going to be a good year for the Kilts regardless of placement. In the past, well the 4 years I have been in the corps, we have only traveled east for 1 show prior to prelims. So I don't think we are that much more of a disadvantage if we don't come out east prior to DCA.
Right now we have almost everything in place. The music is in our hands. Numbers are almost set, with one or two openings in upper brass and colorguard. 4/5th's of the drill is out to the members. We've had our first public performance playing our whole book last month. Things are definitly on the right track and we plan on keeping it there.
Should be a good season. I am looking forward to it
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So my situation is this. I am by no stretch of the imagination a tenor player nor do I play one on TV. I am not allowed to hire one so the next thing I can think of is learning it myself so I can teach it or at least know how to correct it.
Does anyone know any good books or other resources that are good for showing proper tenor playing technique?
My tenor players are probably my best players in the line and have a good general concept but I don't want their development to become stagnate just because they aren't getting the instruction they deserve.
So if any of you could help me out with any bit of info it would be greatly appreciated.
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97 Scouts. Oh yeah FTW!!!!!
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That would be a HUGE list.
If I were to throw guess out there I would imagine most would be in the range of 18 - 30 inches.
I know I should know this but it's not really my called so I never concerned myself with finding it out but the Kilties I believe go with 18, 22, 24, 28, 30 maybe a 32.
In my personal preference/opinion not really sure of the point of going smaller then an 18. But thats just me.
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I said that once.We were doing drill and I slipped in the mud and suffered a high ankle sprain. Hurt the rest of the year.
Yeah that can always be a problem. Even in July. I forgot where we were but there were random patches of marsh all over the practice area. I got caught in one of those and almost wound up on my rump. Luckily I was able to gain my balance and I just ended up with a very wet shoe.
Sprinkler heads can be pesky little buggers too.
I'm sure the powers that be have an alternate site arranged, ie Park HS field house as in years past. But I am not in the know I just work here
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Ah, fond memories.
Although I find their claim of seating 8500 people to be a bit exaggerated.
Yeah it's a bit inflatted.
According to my father the Horlick v Park HS games back in the 60's brought in standing room only crowds and the stands were packed endzone to endzone on both sidlines. With the old stands they probably could have been close but definitly not w/ the new ones up.
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Looking at the Racine forecast, looks like rain and snow this weekend. The Gilmore field is still too wet even without the additonal precip.
Good luck in two weeks.
Little mud never hurt anybody
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On a somewhat related...
Kenosha Beats took first in Independant A at the MPA finals this last weekend. Congrats to the Beats and to fellow Kilties Chris, Ryan and Josh on a job well done.
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I heard 100 people attended and according to the review of this event,over 200 were there. Which is it?
The Gilmore Auditorium has seats for just under 300 people. Most seats were full and quite a few people standing in the open areas.
So if I were to venture a guess I would say about 250 give or take.
These are all pure guesses based on observations. Seeing admission was free and and we didn't have tickets or someone counting as people came through the doors. We have no way of really giving official numbers...
What is official is the house was full. Souvies were selling. The Kilties and Beats put on a good show and all in attendance left happy and satisfied. Some of them still in awe of what they just witnessed ;)
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Yes, BD #3, I did indeed like it.
BTW-where in Vernon Hills are you? I work here in VH, at American Hotel Register Co.
Nice to know there are some other drum corps people in the area!
I am located just south west of Oakwood and 45 near Butterfield Rd. About a block west of Oakwood Park.
Is your work right there off of 20? I think I know where that is.
There are more drum corps folks in the area. Like Buffalo Grove and Mundelein. FYI!
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I too attended the run through on Sunday. Thanks Beth for the invite! The music was impressive. I think Guapo was being a little hard on the soprano section. It was a March rehearsal! I thought Bobby was incredible. Seeing 8 snares was great. They seem to have a sense of purpose. Looking forward to seeing this show on the field this summer.
I don't know if he was intentionally being hard on the Sopranos but more of writing(critiquing) the section he is most familar with. Having marched Soprano in the corps for 5 years or so. I would probably be just as hard on a bassline or drumline if I were to have been in his postion Sunday.
Thanks for coming. Glad you liked it.
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And interesting group....you know I've been called a lot of things, but I'm not sure if interesting has ever been one of them.
I use the term loosely of course
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I don't know if it's something you'd describe as a cult, necessarily, but many times my wife has likened drum corps to gangs. She often brings this up when she goes to a show and observes the behavior of members of the various corps.
Some of the things she notes are how we tend to stick together in small groups, or packs, all wearing corps jackets displaying our 'gang' colors, greeting each other with unusual or 'secret' handshakes or catch phrases, and establishing our 'turf' for rehearsal, storing our gear, etc.
She may be onto something!
I think this is a really good comparison.
2008 DCI PREVIEW
in DCI (All) Corps Show & Event Reviews
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Thanks. My bad. Looking ahead toward the sweet madison show lineup where there are also a few DCA corps performing.