dc oldtimer
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So you want DCI to continue to be like Beverly Hills? An activity for the rich only, outside of the common youth's "tax bracket"?
Ummm... there are cheaper options out there. The question is, do the majority of kids WANT to march the cheaper options.
Like Mike said, I want to live in the North Shore of Chicago so my daughter has the best education possible but I am not in that tax bracket ;)
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Likewise, those in the position of power and authority owe it to themselves and their organizations to ensure they aren't unintentionally excluding anyone without realizing it.
Then the question is how is DCI unintentionally excluding someone?
I personally think this whole topic wraps into the larger issue being discussed; how to bring drum back to a "grassroots" activity and increase the number of drum corps out there. It seems that "back in the day" there were less opportunities for kids to engage in other activities; volleyball, baseball, soccer, etc. Now, with Title IV and all the other options out there for kids, this has shrunk the number of kids that could be turned on to our great activity...... especially if a kid (or his/her parents) has aspirations of making it rich. If you haven’t noticed being a professional athlete tends to pay a tad more then a corps director :)
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Hmmm.. why does DCI need to "reach out" to certain groups? The opportunities are there. If there is a black female band director that is out there and wishes to enter the drum corps world, by all means she should go for it. I sense that the OP is saying that there is some discrimination going on. I personally don't see it. I suppose you can compare it to the NHL. Why are there not a lot of black NHL players? One, it's not a sport they levitate to. Two, it is a very expensive sport so that limits many groups, not just African Americans.
To paraphrase Colin Powell to the black community some years back; there are many opportunities out there. It’s your job to work for them. It’s not going to be given to you on a silver platter.
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And I believe Mitch's point re: '76 Devils were that his compatriots thought the 76 Devils were the second best corps they'd seen after the '75 Scouts.
Yes. Thanks.
3rd? Hmmmm..... Cadets, WSS..... 84?
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The best drum corps ever. BD 76 a VERY close second.
... drum corps just isn't the same today. Thanks for the flashback to "when drum corp was drum corp".
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It happened right in front of my group of 14 and the women in our group were in tears. Mostly because it was INCREDIBLE how this young gentleman tried to get off the field after doing this. Watching him hobble off was one of the most gallant things I have seen in my life.
VERY happy to hear he is doing well. Our prayers are with him for a speedy recovery.
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Ifyou "get" Bartok, you should learn his name.
jeez, tough crowd. Pure typo at midnight after watching drum corps for 6 hours, dealing with a two year old all day and 4 beers afterwards. Give me a break.
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BD - Sorry, Third time seeing it and I still don't get it.
Cavaliers - If they execute they should win.
'Coats - Best BC corps ever. Just a little "off" tonight. Much better Thursday. Could win too.
Cadets - As someone who hasn't liked Cadets in the past (except for 80's) I love the show. Keep doing shows like this.
Crown - Horn line - WOW but surprised more people haven't complained about all the whole notes and cords they play. I guess that was reserved just for the Green Team.
PR - Like the show. As a horn guy, drum line is awesome. Saw a judge shake his head once like saying "wow, their good"
SCV - I like this show. But I "get" Bortak
Blue Star - Good corp. Keep it up.
BC - Had to visit with someone. Didn't see. Sorry.
Scouts - One word. WOW!!!!!!!!! Ok, more words. THANK YOU from this 70's FMM for the flashbacks.
Showed up late. That's it.
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It takes 5-7 clarinets to make up the sound a trumpet can produce, and that is not even playing the trumpet loud! Woodwinds have no place on the marching field....."
And you know what? He is right.
One word;
mics
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Jim, that gets my vote too.
There have been a whole bunch of great opening statements from many corps over the years... Spirit 1980, Blue Devils 1996, among others... but there's something about that particular one from the Scouts. Sheer, unadulterated power....from a mile away. LOL.
Definitely had that "this is OUR show to win" vibe to it.
... and to think this was in the day when the corps started from the back sideline. My face still peeled.
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Let's go waaaay back.
1975 Madison Scouts "Slaughter on 10th Avenue".
BINGO.
Close second, Spirit 79/80.
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I believe Star Alumni Corps will be performing on Friday at SemiFinals. I wish i could have gone..as that would have been one Major highlight of attending Finals week this year.
Yep. In the usual alumni corps performance slot. It will be late. We performed around 11:00pmish.
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Is this a photo of Jeff in 77?
Yep. That is him. I'll try to find one of him in CAC888. I am pretty sure those are my knees off his left ear. :)
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We've got 7 years until thier 60th anniversary so maybe we'll hear all the classics then from their Alumni Corp. :)
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I have a recording of that.
Have iTunes, will travel. Nothing compares to the original. Honestly, if I was forced to, I would rather hear one of BD's lines from the 90's play it.
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Actually, not to be a buzz kill, but Phantom came in to the 2008 championship having had the highest score the weekend before at Allentown.
But did they have as big as a spread at the time as BD has today?
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They obviously have the love of the judges so you might as well engrave the trophy now. Three points is a tough hill to climb for any corps. But I don't go to DCI just for drum corp anymore. To see old friends and taking a little vacation with the family is the main purpose these days. Add to it that my wife marched Suncoast and she is attending the HOF dinner honoring Robert Smith, amoung others. Met the man once but never knew he was a musical genius.
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Ha, I thought I was the only one who called them that!
LOL. No you are not. The first time they came out in practice '76 someone yelled "What's up with the F'n pickles?" The rest is history. Now everytime I look at them, I just don't see a plume. I will always see a pickle. :)
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Thank you Mitch. It's always good to know, that while we have been fierce competitors
in the past, that we wish each other well and want to see each other succeed!
Thanks Jeff, and you are right we were fierce competitors.... except for the 70's when I marched when you were kicking my/our butts. :) I still pop in the 75 Scouts on my big screen with surround sound when I want to hear the best DRUM CORP show ever.
All the best and hang in there!
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Well, that only took 4 posts.
No THAT'S funny!!!!!
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I rarely post or reply but this conversation has intrigued me. Seems that there is alot of A and B mentality with no discussion/debate towards the position of the other.
No offense and with all due respect as a fellow alumn, but this seams like a lot of sunshine pumping to me. When I marched there (not too long ago), it seemed that it wasn't about the people, or whatever and connecting with them and then getting together and singing khum-bay-yah afterwards. You can't connect with everyone so worry about the things you can control, your actions and how you perform your show. Theoretically, if that occurs, then things will take care of themselves.
I can see what SCV Biker is talking about. That the way in which executing the show, the approach, the intensity of intent of each member to execute the show in both practice and performance may be lacking from what the culture was when he marched. Hell, I saw it last year in Allentown when I went and watched a rehearsal. I was apalled at some sections and their approach. What makes scv is its tradition, not its ability to connect. Correlation does not imply causation. Going out trying to connect doesn't mean you will, going out an executing with intensity (the right intensity) will cause connection, because people take you that more seriously and are generally attracted to things performed at a high level.
You could always tell it was SCV from watching a rehearsal and the way in which they went about themselves during that process. Somehow its been lost on me that intensity/killer instinct is to the degree at which it had been ever since '67.
It is about the Star and the Class and sometimes thats not necessarily a feel good process but a growing process. Voluntarily getting your butt handed to you in order to create something great. Becoming tempered. Living up to the expectations of your predecessors that sweat their butt off, slept in the same crappy gym, road on the same sweaty buses with no TV, did 'shups everytime they didn't meet the standard that was impossible to achieve and still produced shows like '87, '89, '98, '92. IMHO that is were the class comes from, the work. That is what the Star has become to symbolize, not vice versa.
Just adding to the discussion.
Wow, guys. I think it might be best you take this conversation and keep it closer to the vest. At least we Cavalier Alumni have a closed Forum to vent in. (Oh and we do, trust me) It doesn't appear that SCV does. I suggest you two e-mail each other instead of opening up something like this for all the world to see.
Keep the faith. Life's too short.
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I think a lot of people want to see The Scouts come back into the mix of things, me included and a lot of people have a lot to say about that. The Cavaliers have been relativley consistant. Its been a rough road for the Scouts over the last 10 years or so but I think they are making progress..... as far as what I see on the field. I know there have been a lot changes internally that have affected what we see on the field and I have no idea what is going on there... nor do I want to know. That's their own business. Not unlike our changes over the past 6 months.
The best of luck to our brothers to the north of us!! See you in Indy!!!
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Thus why I've stopped going to shows during the season and I only go to Indy to see friends I see once a year. Plus, I spend more money in three days in Indy then I did in one year back in the 80's when I went to a ton of shows.
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you just liked the lower drinking age, didn't you?
BINGO! To be 17 and be able to walk into any bar.... was dangerous actually. I remember one time..... oh nevermind. I can't get into it.... but we had FUN!
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Wish I lived near Boston. Sounds like fun.