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  1. No I didn't get it from JohnJohn...LOL...Actually my old girlfriend (Previous to my wife...LOL) recorded it for me from the stands while imbibing with some friends. Hence the Emmaus Sentinels were not recorded as they probably had nature calling or needed a refill. Those RCA shows were pretty wild!I think you'll find the comments entertaining too!

    I can make a copy for you John...Please send me your address and I'll send it to you!

    All the best!

    Steve Cooley

    Many thanks Steve

    John Scott

    423 Elbow Lake Rd

    Sudbury, Ont

    Canada, P3E 4N1

    Sometimes I think those were the best of days

  2. I have an audio recording of the 1975 RCA Championships. It is not of very good quality and was recorded from the stands with a portable cassette tape recorder in Ivor Wynn Stadium in Hamilton, Ont. Canada. It's on 2 cassette tapes...Here are the corps:

    York White Roses

    Johnsonburg Diplomats

    Sudbury Imperial Knights

    Dunkirk Patriots

    Kingston Grenadier Yardmen

    Hamburg Kingsmen

    Brass Inc.

    Erie Thunderbirds

    Guelph Royalaires

    Rochester Phoenix

    After all these years a tape has surfaced. Is there anyway I could get a copy of either the whole show or especially the Sudbury Imperial Knights? Also if sent to "Preserve Our Corps Memories" he may be able to restore and preserve the "only known copy" of that championship.

  3. Ted was the music arranger for Canada's Marching Ambassadors as well as a member of the CJA.

    KEY, Edward Lewis - August 5, 1939 -- October 7, 2010

    After a long and hard fought battle with cancer, Ted Key passed away peacefully with his loving wife Jean, of 36 years, at his side. Ted leaves behind his sons Teddy and Andrew (Katlyn) and his two adored grandsons, Ryan and Jordan. Ted was predeceased by his mother Daisy Key (Loveridge) and his father Edward Key. Aside from his devotion to his family, Ted had 3 other passions. He loved music. He had a long and successful career as a music teacher with the TDSB at Parkway Vocational School, Brockton High School and Danforth Technical School. He was an excellent teacher who used enthusiasm and humour to bring out the best in his students. For many years, Ted was a member of the Canadian Judges Association which adjudicated marching bands in Canada and the United States. Ted was also the Musical Director for the DCAT chorus which put on many successful performances in the GTA. Ted was a proud member of Remembrance Masonic Lodge and the Scottish Rite. Finally, Ted loved his cottage at Dickey Lake. It was his refuge and his castle. He loved to put on lavish dinner parties for his friends and neighbours. He could tell a good joke. Ted was a Director and President of Shawano Ratepayers for many years. His family would like to thank the medical staff at Sunnybrook Hospital for their care and compassion during this difficult time. He was a terrific husband, a great Dad and an indulgent grandfather. He will be sorely missed.

    He also enjoyed a post contest party

  4. so some one save me searching and post the scores from this contest... I do know that Matadors and Pittsburgh did well at DCA...

    ERIE, PA August 21 RCA Championships

    1.Pittsburgh Rockets 77.75

    2.Guelph Royalaires 74.80

    3.Emmaus Sentinels 67.65

    4.Erie Thunderbirds 67.55

    5.Imperial Knights 67.45

    6.Kingston Grenadiers 67.30

    7.Matadors 63.85

    8.Suburban Knights 62.70

    9.Kawartha Kavaliers 62.40

    10.Hanover Lancers 58.20

    11.Dunkirk Patriots 51.75

    12.Freestatesmen 49.50

    13.Esquires 39.20

    14.Johnsonburg Diplomats 33.50

  5. Site is blocked at work but think 1972 is one of the RCA Champs for sale at Drum Corps World. Part of Alf Walaska(sp!)/Stetson Richmond collection.

    Never knew any of them were recorded (included the one I was in). I have some of these but forget which ones.

    I believe that 72,73, and 74 were recorded, the 75 championships and prelims were held in Hamilton Ontario and were not recorded

  6. Here's a newspaper clip from 1970. The show was supposed to be on Sept. 7 but changed to Sept. 5. If 1970 was a Sr. corps show at the Ex. and DCA finals was the day after, I wonder who was there? Rochester's not far from T.O.; I may also have been in the stands, Jeff. It was a short subway and streetcar ride away :-)

    1970-cne1-a.jpg

    I would think that Canada's Marching Ambassadors , Guelph Royalaires and possibly Les Diplomates were there. I too probably made the 5 hour drive to sit in the stands.

  7. When Steve Vickers was putting together the first History of Drum Corps volume a couple of years ago I wrote a piece on the Red Carpet Association that I don't believe was ever published. Contributors to my research included Jeff Ream, Jeff Davis and Ron Allard. I also have a spreadsheet with all scores from the RCA shows. Here is the history article:

    The Red Carpet Association was formed in the fall of 1968 as a circuit for senior drum and bugle corps, providing an alternative to the relatively new Drum Corps Associates circuit. The Red Carpet Association provided a competitive arena for corps that did not attain membership in the more exclusive DCA circuit on a competitive basis, or were not interested in being members of DCA for other reasons such as geographical location and the expense of traveling to DCA contests.

    The Red Carpet Association sponsored contests and held a championship show each year from 1969 through 1977. The circuit included corps from Pennsylvania, Ohio, New York, Connecticut, Minnesota, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland and Ontario, Canada.

    From this earlier post it looks like RCA started in 1968 and not 1967 as per the clipping. Stll many of the "Charter Members" never fielded at the 1st championship.

    1975 did turn out to be a fine year

  8. RCA Healthy Picture Article from the Feb 1975 issue of DCA

    RCAHealthyPictureArticlefromtheJan1.jpg

    What happened between the formation of the RCA in 1967 (if that article is correct) and the 1st championship in 1969? Lots of Corps must have folded as many of the "Charter Members" never made it to the 1st finals in 1969.

    16 August 1969 Allentown, PA RCA Championships

    1.Guelph Royalaires 73.40

    2.Westshoremen Bonnie-Scots 73.25

    3.Pittsburgh Rockets 66.35

    4.Emmaus Sentinels 62.50

    5.Erie Thunderbirds 60.70

    6.Hanover Lancers 56.35

    7.Esquires 48.55

    8.Maumee Demons 38.40

    9.Freestatesmen 33.15

    10.Dunkirk Patriots 30.90

  9. It's funny how drum corps seems to take root in some of the oddest places in the world...Coming down from Sudbury to Port Hope is a summer vacation journey in itself. When I think of corps in Sudbury, Sault Ste. Marie, Edmonton, British Columbia...So far from their nearest competition or even to just SEE what the bigger corps were doing in order to understand how you stacked up against them. I marched that Port Hope parade prior to the show and it was a very hot day, they had horses, and that tympani was HEAVY. The few times I saw the Imperial Knights I always enjoyed their sound and performance. And yes, there was some serious partying going on after the contest. We always claimed to win the party but the competition was pretty stiff!

    Thanks for the kind words about this most northen of drum corps. If you are interested you can see the history and contests that we were in at http://drumcorpswiki.com/Imperial_Knights,_Sudbury . Port Hope was one of our closest shows, nothing like being on the buses for over 6 hours just to get somewhere. I believe I have the write up from the Port Hope news paper re that contest. Some one needs to do the Commanders full history on http://drumcorpswiki.com

  10. ...and they had them in 1960 and perhaps before...it was a classic look. Before becoming the Royalaires drum corps they were the 11th Field Artillery Trumpet Band in the army reserves (militia). Now THAT was a uniform!

    For some reason some show announcers seemed to have a problem with figuring out where they were from...in 1970 while I was in Commanders an announcer said they were from "Gulch" Ontario. The Royalaires were forever known as "Gulch" to us after that! One time they were announced as coming from "Puslinch Lake"! Yes, the place really does exist and is quite close to Guelph but that one had us in stitches for weeks!

    Billy Graham was an outstanding mellophone soloist. Get him to tell you about the time I almost arrested him when he was coming home from a Royalaire practice...luckily I was able to calm my partner down after Billy peed on his shoes....

    Why doesn't that sound strange?

    Had the pleasure of competing against Guelph many times between 1970 and 1975. Fine bunch both on and off the field. We were on the same field as the Commanders and Guelph only once I believe, it was in Port Hope Ont in 1972. Fine party after that show. :tongue:

  11. Gardenstatesmen only competed in the RCA 70,71,72.73 can't remember if 74 - they remained as a parade corps until around 1980. They are featured on the "1970 Evening With The Corps" from thre Felt Forum in NYC. We had 55 Horns on stage and competed with close to 48 all of 1970. I was one of the brass instructors and played some solo's. My Dad played bass drum and was Bus Mgr. later on.

    The Gardenstatesmen competed at the RCA championships in 1970, 1974, 1975

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