MrStellar
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I've already agreed with several people about the money thing. I get it, got it, agree with it. Not arguing that one at all. Still discussing the scheduling debate - which I have not bought opposing arguments to (yet). Let's stick to debating me on what I have not agreed with yet.
The money debate makes your scheduling argument baseless.. to choose to join dci because of scheduling would be dumb when there are a million and one reasons why not to... including scheduling. Their location, once again, is the prime location to run a dca corps and schedule a weekend only ensemble as the resources are in their region. DCA provides a better opportunity in the northeast than DCI.
I could also go back to the leadership and everything as to why they are DCA not DCI.. there are a ton of other goals they are trying to accomplish here imo and DCA is the best fit for those goals.
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I just looked at MCDC's tour schedule. They have SIX shows scheduled. SIX! From what I can tell, it's mostly weekend stuff.
Do you remember the money part of this conversation?? How much more expensive it is to be a dci corps vs dca. Music City is ONE drum corps... YEA! is now going to run TWO drum corps. Once again, cost effectiveness.
And Music City is no where near the Northeast.. DCA is huge in the northeast, period.. why not use the circuit that is provided in the region? Championships are only 3 hours from Allentown, Reading is right up the road.
I sound like a broken record... YEA! clearly wants this to work well so why would they risk the chance of it failing due to money? Then the forums would blow up with the "hopkins failed" and "hopkins let the kids down" topics?
COST EFFECTIVENESS!!
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I'll repeat it AGAIN. You can be a weekend only corps without any big tour and have the same amount of show days OR LESS than DCA in a DCI Open Class corps.
As for the keyboard discussion? It can apply to either. But let me give you an example. Let's say C1 writes for one keyboard player that requires both synth pads AND a pretty difficult piano solo and you have 2 kids trying out for that one spot. One kid gets it, the other goes home - instead of having the opportunity to play that same role in C2.
THEN (to take it a step further) that kid goes to another DCI corps (hopefully) and the next year when the C1 keyboard player ages out (hypothetically), that kid that got cut has no interest in trying out for the Cadets again.
To me, it just makes more sense all around to have C2 compete in DCI Open Class for all of the above reasons I mentioned. But oh well, not my call. Interesting subject for discussion though.
Do you really think they are going to tell the kid "sorry there are no synths at cadets2"? Really dude? No, a good instructor would provide him with whatever he needs to get to a Cadet 2 camp and explain that "hey i know you wanted this spot here, but *insert the youre cut speech here* however at Cadets 2 they dont have synthesizers but I know "so and so" and they cant definitely help you with synth stuff outside of rehearsal during your summer at Cadets 2."
Organizations dont just toss kids to the side.. they provide every opportunity possible to them that they can to keep them interested. If the kid doesnt want those opportunities provided that is up to the kid.
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And yet again...you can have ALL of those same benefits as a DCI Open Class Corps. Nothing presented here is any different than that of MOST DCI Open Class corps and their schedules.
Listen! Competing in DCI Open Class require NO MORE OS A TIME commitment than DCA. That is a FACT!
I see you only quoted ONE section of my post.. the rest of the post ties directly into the rest of the reasoning, I will not argue with you that being an open class dci corps can provide the same opportunity but thats one SMALL part of it. DCI costs a fortune to join and operate under DCI rules and regulations. DCA not so much. You have to think with business sense here as well.. Obviously YEA!'s question to themselves one day way: "How can we provide kids the opportunity to perform in a drum corps while learning "The Cadet" way AND be cost effective?".. DCA is your answer. They can give the performing opportunity once again to the recent age outs to help mold these new members into maybe one day joining the Cadets. Leadership in a brand new drum corps... hard to come by... they found the best way to make this happen. I'm sorry, excellent leadership is hard to come by.
They are being smart by going this route. It's super cost effective. Drum Corps is a business.. businesses are all about being cost effective.
Again, they want to get more kids involved in the activity.. period. They are doing this the smartest way possible, no doubt.
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Why DCA? It's simple.
Reach out to a ton of other students who can't afford a full tour but want to compete in a drum corps. They get to keep their summer, have a job and still be a kid.
DCA is relatively local to the area.. most DCA shows occur in the Northeast. Probably cuts back a lot the expenses by doing this.
With the ties through YEA to the USSBA it's not too hard to get interest for Cadets 2.
I think that by going DCA and providing the age limit they can get the recent age out cadets to provide the leadership for cadets 2 and mold the members into what the cadets are now.
To me, it's simply genius.
All of the above stated may be reading into it a little much, i think we should just make it a simple philosophy. They get to reach out to a ton of other kids and provide them with a great experience without the huge time commitment.. it's about the kids.
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Wow! those numbers look great. From the looks of the pictures they have a lot of younger kids, which will be a great thing for the long run. Only if they can keep member retention at around a 60-70% rate. Who knows in a few years we could see what we've been wanting to see from the crossmen for years now. It's all in retention.
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I am honored to announce that The Vibe Drum and Bugle Corps is happy to return after one season off to DCPI DIII competition. We are introducing new uniforms designed by the Executive Director Corey Moore himself.
The design team is now undergoing a show idea for the DCPI-IX season....look for more to come
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When the BD drumline was weaving in and out of the hornline that was BA
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why are the scores not up yet for Belding?
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Pack lite. The less stuff you have, the less stressed you'll be.
-Music
-Sleeping bag
-Pillow
-Towel
-Boxers/briefs/boxerbriefs whatever your preference is (i suggest boxer briefs for visual if you're going to be in shorts) unless you're a girl..
-2 Shirts
-1 pair of windpants
-1 pair of shirts
-Toothpaste, brush, deodorant
-Hair/body wash
-Your instrument (sticks, mallets, mouthpiece, whatever it is you play)
-Backpack for your music and accessories
You should be able to fit everything in a dufflebag and a backpack.
Pretty good list ^OO^ , cept dont use windpants(at least my preference) for visual block, you dont wanna be "that guy" everyone is getting annoyed at b/c of the pants and that annoying "phsshhh" sound. So some shorts will do. But all in all thats a really good list, Maybe some marching gloves, some corps dont like you to use the rubberized dotted gloves, they can tarnish the horns pretty bad if used over and over again. Simple cotton gloves should do fine.
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Hopefully KK will keep strong and have a good comeback in '08. Make things happen, pushing hard for reqruitment will be a big thing for them when they decide to comeback.
Lets Go Kavaliers!! Hope to see you in '08
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Boo'ing under any circumstances is disrepectful. point blank
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Depends on if the player played quarterback in high school. :D
Don't worry, My son is 1707 miles away from his Oboe at Troopers camp and he has to audition on Oboe in 3 weeks at Louisiana Tech!
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The Case for Woodwinds in Drum Corps
As both a BOA and DCI fan, I think we have to seriously consider allowing the inclusion of woodwinds into drum corps.
First of all, the most important benefit of allowing woodwinds is to expand the activity to more people. Drum corps requires a huge commitment as it is, but learning a new instrument is something that shuts out more kids. To become a brass player in a Division I corps, it takes a year of learning the instrument, plus another year of either a DCA or Div II group. Not that there’s anything bad about doing this, but not many are willing to put in two years of learning a new instrument, dishing out money for lessons, not to mention the money and experience they may lose when they decide to devote every summer until they’re 22 for just that one shot at a Div I.
For me, I’m a woodwind who wants to switch over for brass. I’m 19, so there isn’t much time left. There also isn’t much to find in the northeast. The only Div I corps I can attempt is The Cadets (since the Boston Crusaders are really a Florida corps). For an experienced brass player, the Cadets can be difficult to make, but I need to spend extra time, money, and energy to learn the instrument so I can just have that attempt for one summer. I’m sure most kids aren’t willing to go through that (heck, I don’t even know if I’m up to it yet).
I am an oboe player, 17 years old. Learned Brass in one month in my freshman year, now a senior. Marched with my HS band. Tried out for a Div 1 corps, and made it. I don't support woodwinds in Drum Corps at all, it will take away the uniquness that Corps provides, that big brass bang when a corps hits a cord at the end. Just my 2 cents...
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Cavies contras have that wierd mouthpiece, what kind are those..thanks
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add to number 18.......... backwards
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i know troopers got new uniforms this year anyone know what they are going to look like?
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yaeh thats what i was wondering cuz i am going to their knoxville camp to check em out.
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i guess thats a yes, and no.......thanks...
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Any word on the troopers this year, are they going on tour this summer? If so how are they looking, are they going to be any better than they have been in the past?
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Hey guys im new to the forum, but i thought i should join since i am trying out for colts this year so...hey all
Cadets2 question...
in DCA - All-Age Corps Discussions
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Then I guess DCA rules arent fair. They allow the corps to set age limits.
Once again you take the meaning of this new organization and you turn it into OH THEY JUST WANT TO WIN!
And crying wolf that its not fair.. it's completely fair. The rules are the rules.. they haven't broken any of them. Why do you insist that they are doing the wrong thing? Why? So what if they win because their kids are younger and they may have recent Cadet age outs leading the corps.. why does that even matter? why? if they are good then its better for the activity can you think of it that way?