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  1. Who do we know will be in ? And who should REALLY be in ?

    SA is ALWAYS going to be a bloodbath. There are too many guards, and with that, too many great guards to fit 15 in finals. The system WGI has is as fair as they can be, but inevitably, especially with this class, there will be guards that many people think should have gone on and didn't. My best advice is to not give up ONE thing. Because that one thing could be one tenth out of finals.

  2. So, if I understand this correctly, I believe SW prelims is going to be broken into 3 rounds of 8 guards. The first round with the lowest regional scores, the middle one with higher scores and then the last round with the highest scores. Now, looking at this, there appears to be a cluster**** with guards in the middle and last rounds. Both Miamisburg and Center Grove are tied for that last spot in the last round. Is there a tie-breaker? Does WGI then look at the prelim score at the last regional to break the tie? Do they look at the last head to head score?

    Thoughts?

    Have they always done that? That's a very lame idea to start with because now the winner from the first round will get into finals where someone in 8th place of the third round deserved that spot. ridiculous.

  3. Watch Salem Blue in the Independent A class. They should do really well, with a medal being a real possibility.

    A small guard with talented performers.

    Weapons soloists are strong: The guy rifle marches Cadets in the summer. The little sabre soloist marches with Glassmen.

    A couple of us marched in the same circuit with Salem Blue for a couple of years and have always seen him improve each season. But when we saw him in Trumbull, we were in awe, and wondered how he came leaps and bounds over last season...especially in movement!

  4. Watch Salem Blue in the Independent A class. They should do really well, with a medal being a real possibility.

    A small guard with talented performers.

    Weapons soloists are strong: The guy rifle marches Cadets in the summer. The little sabre soloist marches with Glassmen.

    A couple of us marched in the same circuit with Salem Blue for a couple of years and have always seen him improve each season. But when we saw him in Trumbull, we were in awe, and wondered how he came leaps and bounds over last season...especially in movement!

  5. hhmm

    I think the the A class saw it's best years in the mid to late 1990s and early 2000s. The programs that made WGI finals were logical, straight forward, and to the point. Entertaining and educational (for the students). I urge you (whoever is reading this) to go back and watch the A class champions from 1995-2000. And then pop in the medalists from 2007 and 2008. Completely different approaches.

    I TOTALLY agree with you on this.

    Remember also after 2002, all a class finalists got bumped to open. in 2003, guards that most likely would not have made finals if those other groups were still in a class were getting medals. There was a serious drop in quality of a class finalists. And also, after 2003, most of the guards that were bumped to open either folded or went back down to a class because they had a n abysmal year, because they weren't ready for open class

  6. I for one would still like to know what a basic skill is in the A class. No one has ever been able to explain it to me. Also I think the age range is too broad. A guard from a college with the right instructor is going to be able to handle and perform much more then a guard made up of HS age kids and younger.

    it's kind of true but you also have to look at the finalists from the past couple of years....alot of them were in middleschool or high school. I know people that won jewelry at wgi at 11 without the hardest show. It was designed for A class, and technique was hammered into them.

    I love the idea of compulsories, but not to the extent of figure skating lately, because that turned of of their shows into the same exact thing....you know whats coming up beforehand.

    another little tangent: I went to a regional lately where i saw a class shows taking design strategies from world class ie, having multiple little groups doing alot of stuff. There was no ensemble moments. In world class it works because of the training they have. in a class the technique isn't there and it just looks like a huge mess on the floor.

  7. Don't do it. Get a degree and do it on the side. I've seen many people who have been in the activity for years and don't get paid worth their talent and experience. These same people will tell you not to get sucked into guard for years and years. Plus when your body gives out what will you do then? Retire on those thousands you've been saving from your abundant paycheck?

    Once again, don't do it as the main focus for your life. The top designers in the game do more than one thing.

    as a full-time job..no.

    as something you love..yes!

    I am going on my 10 year high school reunion without a college degree, but everything i have done has been worht it. Dont get me wrong. I am working slowly towards my degree. but m philosophy is do everything you can while you're young. i would have regretted missing out on everything that has made me who I am because of what everyone else thought as normal graduating in 4 years, getting a normal 9- 5 job. It's also given me time o think about what i do want to do for the rest of my life. time that i personally needed.

  8. i started when my girlfriend at the time (dont laugh!) brought me to a guard show....i actually ran late and ha to get a ride from a couple of people from her organization's world class guard). I fell in love with it. It was only b class (IRA), but it was to a version of "Over the Rainbow" and I fell in love with the activity. I saw the open guards "Duel of the Fates" and the world guard's "Miraculous Mandarin" and realized how both beautiful and powerful colorguard was, and marched the next season. Because it was independent, there was no marching band season to actually learn, so I practiced in my local park and had my girlfriend teach me everything.

    as fortunate and thankful as I am that I started with one of the most recognized organizations in the activity, i still wish i started before i did. It felt like everyone aound me started out of the womb seriously. My friends started at 6. I got my sister involved in the cadet guard at 7. people who had already won WGI open class were younger than I was.

    And not that that matters. I just wish i ha more time to enjoy the activity i fell in love with before life and college and jobs got in the way.

  9. I remember being 8-9 years old and watching the WGI finals in the late 80's on late night on the USA network.....yes by the same channel that brought us 'G.L.O.W.' and 'Silk Stockings'. From the moment I saw the sparkle, glitz and glam, I was hooked. Many years later, after jamming countless fingertips, turned ankles, sparkle lame' burn (oh so early 90's), lives of rifles lost in poor attempts at tosses, a healthy hatered of all things sabre, scars bumps and bruises too many to count, I've become the well adjusted educator and earn my living warping young minds.

    Dont' call lame "early 90's"!

    Picture it: 2001. ECJ opening move. 12 foot swing flags with lame. Tropical storm force winds. THAT'S lame burn. :-)

  10. I have never heard this soundtrack, but the samples sound interesting. I'm guessing from the show title, parts of this will be used. Any guesses from people that are familiar with the music to what tracks may work well on the field f? I may have to purchase this.

    Amazon Samples of the

    Soundtrack

    If anyone saw Blessed Sac winterguard in 2004, their Matrix show, they used part of their music in the middle. Its good stuff!

  11. nothing is going to stop a full-blown smoke. Fortunately I marched corps that were very lenient. I know its a disgusting habit, so i didnt smoke near anyone anyways. But every water break was a smoke break for us smokers, even if 5 of us shared a cigarette. We had a big can we used as an ashtray, dump it in the trash and washed out....that was the only thing carrying that can, haha. But as long as we're not in uniform, noone cared, because EVERYONE smoked.

    Senior corps was even worse. At finals the colorguard has a little mini-banquet where we give out funny awards. Mine was "most likely to be smoking a cigarette under the first toss" haha. Senior corps actually was more strict about school sites and such, but when we practiced n our field, which is an abandoned paring lot, i would smoke every second i could. And for the first toss i was on the 15 and 6 from the back sideline. I thought noone actually noticed, haha. I burned quite a couple of holes in the practice silk tho.

  12. Neither can we, Kelli! This show is gonna be amazing. I just have that feeling. We're getting a great response to the show, and a lot of people are coming to the Open House, apparently.

    Could this be the year?

    I think it could.

    The first drumcorps season that i have honestly been excited about from the beginning, since my junior corps days, lol. I cannot wait for BWCG09!

  13. I dunno...I can see both sides...

    This isn't the first time this has happened--I remember a few years ago people talking about a band that had some sort of "crazies in straightjackets" motif in their show. I think it is pretty shallow show design.

    Lakota 1998 alter ego 2007? to name a few in wgi to hav the same theme with strghtjacket..never caused this much controversy..both amazing shows

  14. Herein lies the problem. I don't think there's a judge out there with the 'gonads' to go against the grain. You might get a change here or there somewhere else in the pack, if someone has a real bad show at Finals (compared to their prelim show), but that's about it.

    Think about DCA during that killer storm a few years back.....the highest score in prelims should have been in the mid-eighties and that's it. Nope, they just got higher then the week before (or stayed the same)......come on.......think about that one.

    Completely disagree. That's where you see the most who has the best technique. and ability to cope with different variables. No yardlines? you should already know your show enough by now to make the adustment and follow the form. For the colorguard, who can fight that wind the most? I'm not saying it's going to be perfect, but you can see who has it in them to go after it.

    And also, who's going to let these conditions break them, or who's going to just go balls to the wall and have fun?

    That's how I personally felt. I just had fun in prelims because thats all you can do (with 4 stitches that night to boot)

  15. not a jab at any corps....but i don't think it will happen.

    I haven't seen a concentration of top4-7 corps in one area ever. The fact that they compete against each other almost every week pushes them more and more...and judges can also compare corps compared to those other top-tier corps.

    Until DCA gets a better national network (see other thread) i just don't see it happening. None of the other corps, no matter how talented are competing with others that will push them to new boundaries.

  16. Double Tick Spartans

    (sorry old rivalry...i am glad they managed to come out again this year...hopefully we'll see them in the top 3 Open Class very soon)

    10 - 7th Regiment

    08 - Academy

    13 - Blue Devils

    09 - Blue Knights

    22 - Blue Stars

    11 - Bluecoats

    12 - Boston Crusaders

    17 - Carolina Crown

    17 - The Cavaliers

    10 - Citations

    11 - Colts

    12 - Crossmen

    10 - Dutch Boy

    11 - Glassmen

    11 - Jersey Surf

    13 - Madison Scouts

    10 - Mandarins

    10 - Oregon Crusaders

    10 - Pacific Crest

    20 - Phantom Regiment

    10 - Pioneer

    10 - Revolution

    07 - Santa Clara Vanguard

    8 - Spartans

    07 - Spirit

    09 - Spokane Thunder

    09 - Teal Sound

    12 - Troopers

    11 - Velvet Knights

  17. I'm sorry, I don't want to be mean, but this thread is all kinds of fail. LOLCats stopped being funny about 4 years ago and people are still beating these atrocities of humor into the ground. Seriously "lolcorps" isn't funny and is a testament to the true lack of humor some people lack. That being said...

    once again..if you dont find it funny, don't come and just rant....:-)

    just having fun and clearly many people on here find the humor in it

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