rockinbrass
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Go to most rehearsal sites (of any corps) and wait at the food truck for a meal to occur. WATCH the members during their time off the field. Most of them are buried in their phones, and do not interact with their fellow members... It is sad to see (having been involved before the cell explosion and after), but then again, this is how lots of people operate in public nowadays. What The Cavaliers are doing is unique (by not allowing personal cell phone use) and I absolutely love it. Armchair drum corps fans can proclaim to know what is best for the group, but the Cavaliers experience IS different from the other groups and I do not think it is rooted competitively, but more in the FRATERNAL aspect. They want their members to bond...and yes other groups DO bond, but not with the same consistency of interaction that is desired from those that are in charge of the Cavalier experience (staff, admin, and member leadership.)
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There was a thread about potential music to be used back in the spring. Does anyone have a link to that? I can't find it. I know it got very large.
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Music City was financially built off the back of "The Band Hall" and sadly it was venture that was never going to last long term.
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SUPER DRILLMASTERS
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This type of bullying does not surprise me. Just remember, if you marched prior to 2010, you did not march with a G7 corps.
Not true. Some of us(marching members) knew that all of this was coming down the pipeline as early as 2008 (in very clear details) due to conversations with admins of the corps.
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But think about respecting them that much while they STILL treated YOU with respect!
I have yet to be at a professional orchestra rehearsal where the conductor tells us to take a 30-second "gush and go." No conductor has ever asked me to do push-ups for cracking a note, for coming in late at an entrance, or for being out of tune with the first clarinet. Granted, these things don't happen very often (if I may say so...). But, these conductors know that sometimes, things just don't go right. No big deal. We'll get it next time.
Push-ups don't happen in Berlin. Not in Chicago. Not at Juilliard. Not at Eastman.
The moment a conductor commands me to do them, I'll do the same to my kids. The moment the conductor skips a (water) break in rehearsal because we're doing poorly, I'll do it to my kids.
Until that happens, I'll treat them like what they are: professionals.
Maybe it happened in Reiner's day, but not any longer. And boy, don't these orchestras today sound a lot less tired? Here's to you, Mr. Farkas!
Ok, this whole post is silly. You cannot compare drum corps and an orchestral setting. Drum corps musicians are not professional paid musicians. Most of pushups and such are for conditioning sake in the long run.
The conductor might not give you pushups in a rehearsal, but Michael Martin certainly handed them out. I think he has plenty of orchestral trumpet playing experience and he seemed to think it beneficial to us ;)
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I quote: "WHY ARE YOU SO F***ING FAT?!?!"
That clearly =/= professionalism.
Had I been that poor kid, I would have politely responded with a "Why is your caption consistently the weakest of the entire corps, year in and year out?"
That was said to the ENTIRE corps and it was "and some of you are still effing fat"
Nobody was singled out. This was in the context of a whole conversation. That was the start of a very formative week for the 2006 Regiment and had that week happened, Faust would not have been the show it was (and all of the members, while hating that week, knows how important that week of no tolerance was for our advancement)
And btw, we got first in feet at quarters if i recall correctly. Just like Regiment did the year before. Recent trends for the visual caption do not apply to years ago. There are more factors for an underachieving visual performance than the caption head's teaching methods.
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Very few members of the Regiment hornline care or are upset about Jay Emmert yelling. When he comes on tour, you pretty much know the intensity is going to be ramped up and the expectation level goes way up. Have there been really tough days from a visual standpoint? YES, but those are the things that give the members things to laugh about years down the road "I can't believe he actually said that, or we actually did that" There is a great respect that the majority of the members afford the Emmert brothers for their approach. Is it always 100% professional, no. But all the members understand from the beginning of the season what the expectation is for rehearsals and the summer.
Just do your job and Jay or Dwight will NEVER say a word to you. It is often the people who are spacecadets that end up in conflict with the visual staff. I for one never saw a person needlessly get attention that did not deserve it, or have it coming.
It is not realistic to say corps members are ALWAYS motivated on the road, and more often than not, having a foot put up your butt is necessary to "find" the motivation to continue on days where you might not want to be doing drum corps.
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This has been coming for JD for a while. He is transitioning to a full-time family man after YEARS on the road. 2 kids and a job in one place = leaving the activity (plus it helps that his philosophy of music first is not rewarded like it used to be, which has to be demoralizing)
Staff conflicts aside, this can be a really good thing for a revitalized Regiment. JD will be missed, but the sky isn't falling here.
SUTA
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It was in 09 at WV or VA.
This was definitely 2006 at West Virginia. Minute long tear in the drum feature and they still had a large spread that night over the corps that was chasing them down at that point of the season.
DCP blew up over this night.
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I've got a bet on it with a friend :). Hoping to get some real clarification... Cause it sounds nothing like T&F to me.
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So the first impact was toccata and fugue? Because it sounds like Sweeny Todd...
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The first impact after Candide was from what source material?
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Figured we could play this game with the bookends of shows since we have a ballad topic.
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Figured we could play this game with the bookends of shows since we have a ballad topic.
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Can someone with experience in this method of judging GE explain the triad in detail if possible?
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I'm really tying not to feed the trolls lately, but when someone is as wrong as you have been every time you've clicked reply in this thread, I can't help but to cut in and let you know that you are wrong... again. Go ahead, test my credentials and see where I get my info, I assure you it's not hearsay or rumors like most info on here.
Thank you Robert. I noticed he only had like 5 posts, seemed trollish to me
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This problem is far bigger than one disgruntled member. Sorry to say that it appears a lot has changed inside PR in the last few years. I'm sure it hurts to think about that, but it is a sad fact.
If you say so
I know differently and I know the vets and the ideals they hold to. There are always members who take a while to figure out those ideals, but they will.
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Do not presume to know what I know or how I know it. This information was given to me by a member of the horn line. How do you presume to know that this is NOT true? Do you have direct contact with any current member of Phantom?
Not going to get into a contest here, but yes I do have contact with more than a few members of the hornline seeing as I am a recent ageout. This attitude is not something that was ever instilled in us by our staff or veteran members at Regiment and I feel sorry to hear that any member would ever express that concern because everyone at this point has their own house to clean without worrying about anyone else in the ensemble. Seeing as we were never worried about scores the past few years, hopefully some current member will talk to this disgruntled member and explain to them the real reason for marching in the Phantom Regiment, because it's not and never will be about a ring or a score.
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I can also tell you that there is a mounting frustration in the other sections of the corps, who are starting to feel the sting of having their own efforts brought down by a unit who is not performing at the same level as the rest of the corps. There is also talk of a major staf overhaul, possible even a mid-season change,
This is so wrong. You do not march the corps, so do not presume to speak for how the membership is feeling. A major staff overhaul mid-season? wrong again.... people who start rumors like this cause more drama than they solve.
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This 10x. The crassness that's used in (a lot of, not necessarily all) orchestral music that calls for it is generally a specific effect. However, I have a hard time understanding why it is a go-to effect of the PR mellos. Don't get me wrong, in spite of this, they're still in my top 3 favorite mello sections in the activity, but it's really something I wish they wouldn't use as an identifying characteristic.
I have never heard a phantom mello marching member say that crassness was their identifying characteristic... EVER!!
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And was mostly blamed on the Blue Devils. Turns out that's not the case. I have seen a video online which - although I am not allowed to tell how to access it - shows pretty conclusive evidence of the Blue Knights ####### all over America/O Canada. I will not, if you PM me, tell you how to find the video, but suffice to say that it does exist, and is pretty bad. It is kind of amusing to me, after months and months of diatribes about the Blue Devils being sore losers and playing like sh** because they were ###### they lost, etc, that some pretty damning evidence (I love filters. . . I can't use words that wouldn't be censored on daytime TV) has come up that it was in fact another corps.
Now, this raises some interesting questions, as the video in question also captures some members of other corps playing pretty disgracefully. Was it, now that we've seen that the mishaps were not limited to a single corps, reasonable for DCI to go the route that they did in rehashing the retreat system? Is there a better way to do things besides the "stadium entrance" that happened last year. Discuss.
Yes the culprits of what happened AFTER the song finished might have been BK, but take it from someone who was sitting in front of BD, they did more than their share also, and videos on that same site make this clear.
What's done is done, and the new retreat system probably won't ever change back to playing en mass because of the dome.
moving on
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I completely disagree, out of all the brass sections in phantom, the mellos distort tone quality the most by far. The rips to high c in 08 sounded like leafblowers. They might play loud and relatively high, but they don't do it well.
Not quite sure which mello line you were listening to in 08, because there is nothing but tasty from that line. The end of the second movement when all 12 went to the c is pure. Sure they had a moment in each show from 06 and 07 that went to the edge. That 08 line was one of the best mello lines I've EVER heard in my life. Definitely worthy of inclusion in the mello all time list with star 91 and such...
I've heard that JD's saying is, the excitement in music happens when you go right to the very edge and take the chance to fall over (which not many corps do nowadays due to our judging system). Is there a potential to fall off, yes, and Regiment does that alot on the early season to find that balance point by the end so that the true music and emotion shows on the field finals night. I tend to agree with him...
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I do believe a hand spade was used... not a gong scrape
Cavaliers Cell Phone Question
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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What I said is not an absolute, 100% of the time symptom of the activity, but rather a broad observation from someone who is on the road with these members about daily habits of corps members. It is NOT a "drum corps was better when I marched."
I do not hesitate when I say this conversation about members being absorbed in their technology off the field is had frequently on the road amongst different staff members. Maybe the day you were there they were more talkative about the previous block, but you'd have to be blind to not take a step back and see that a great number of members of each group have a cell in their hand with their heads down as they wait in the food truck line. Maybe when they sit down, they talk slightly more (with a phone within inches of their hand for the incoming text, or the ability to surf facebook when the convo lulls,) but this tendancy towards less CONSISTENT interaction is something that has been increasing with each group I've been with since the middle of the decade. Minus me if you'd like, but that's my observation from the trenches (with multiple groups at both ends of the performing spectrum)
I'm not a Cavalier fanboy, but I definitely see the merit in what they have fostered with their members and what they continue to place an importance in. They don't want the distractions so their members can truly invest in the fraternity of the group. It works for them. I may not agree, but I see why.