spanksregular
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I don't see Phantom getting beat by the Cadets at least for very long. Cadet's show will score much like 2005.
Huh? Cadets got a 99.15 that year...
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This is if you can here 50% of their show over that amped pit. Everyone plays so dark anymore that there basically no overtones going on anymore. Trumpet lines sound puny. Scratch the Bb trumpets and get some D trumpets. You know what is funny is that some people here probably have never played in a major symphonic orchestra. I have never played so loud in my life (even in PR) as I did there trying to balance 100+ string instruments.
The grand experiment is over and the G bugles simply sound better on the field. Music without substantial dynamic contrast is silly; that used to be what set drum corps apart. Don't believe me? Why do some corps have to now tell people what their show is about rather than letting the art speak for itself?
100 strings? What orchestra were you in
?You are right though, orchestral brass players do have to play loud.......BECAUSE IT'S ONE ON A PART. And christ, listen to some Bernstein recordings, especially him with the NYP I believe playing Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra, some of the brass sounds on that recording are pretty awful.
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Bluecoats are going to get jumped, I'm calling it
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Right, and I love that style of playing when I go see the Dallas Wind Ensemble.
When I go see drum corps though, I want them to rip my face off.
You mean the Dallas Wind Symphony?
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Ya know, there is this musical thingy related to volume level and it looks like this. FFF. Some people seem to think it's ok to have a hornline that is incapable of reaching FFF, as long as the justification is that they always play musically. Well guess what, when you have numerous other hornlines in DCI playing FFF AND being musical with good tone and what not, it just illustrates that Cavies are missing an important element of music, and really with no excuse.
They can play however the hell they want, buddy
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The Cavaliers play just fine, there's more to music than being yelled at
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Maybe they refused to narrate.
AMIRITE GUYS!? LAWL!
Umm - say what???Is what I said that off base? Really, American parents are way too obsessed with their children, it's really annoying.
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I really hope the OP isn't a joke, I NEED this kind of bando around here to feel the brunt of my ＃＃＃holedom
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There is A LOT more variation of "style" in college marching bands than in DCI right now. Not all college bands are "Corps" style.........
Yeah, some college marching bands have half the people out of step, and others only have 30% out of step, come on people, get with the facts!
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In my two years with Cap Reg, I had both sides of the coin.
In 2002, most of our staff were BD alumni, and they brought that to rehearsal. It was very much a laid-back instructional style, with high expectations that we would "police ourselves" without having to be screamed at constantly. As a result, we were able to goof off a bit, but we also had a pretty good sense of when it was time to hunker down and get to work. It was a very fun year.
In 2003, it was the complete opposite. It was our first year in D1, and expectations were VERY high for us since we had made semis last year. Lots of staff overhauls- Dave Tippet was our brass caption, Wayne Dillon was the program coordinator, and lots of Cadets alums were brought in to cover both brass and visual. And it really was a night and day difference- that year's staff was very intense, very in-your-face, and it was more than some of our younger members could handle, honestly.
I think the OP will appreciate this quote from Jon Wooden- "It's better to lead from in front with a banner than from behind with a whip". Speaks for itself, imo.
Wayne is pretty laid back though, definitely not like other Cadets staff. Maybe he was different at Cap Reg, but it can't be that much of a difference.
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"If you don't want to work, pack your ####en ####, and GET ON A PLANE......You mean you paid over 2000 dollars to come here and do this HALF ***ED"
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I would argue that there is a difference between yelling and verbal abuse
Eh, neither are the most constructive teaching devices
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certainly....but when I read the way you respond to most every contrary opinion, what I think most is that your 'learning' was never tempered with humility.
You may be a genius, I don't know you, but as you continue to respond the way you have, the number of people who value your opinion will surely dwindle.
True that, holmes
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Hey, thanks for your insight--it's much appreciated. Question: how did your staff handle bad shows, or particular sections not performing up to standards? (Realizing that 'standards' are what it's all about, what with corps tradition, competition during the season, etc. It's why they keep score; that's understood.) What was the training/rehearsal vibe like after a not-so-hot performance?
Anyone?
It depends, we never worried about scores, so that wasn't even in the equation. In fact, it was rare that the staff even mentioned anything about scores to us, and even then those were normally in positive situations. As far as bad shows, if a section hacked on a soli, or something else went wrong like a timing tear, it really depended on the context. The separate captions always had different views, director might be mad, vis staff might be happy, brass staff could be happy, it really did depend. Granted, I can't remember the corps having such a terrible show that the staff was actually angry. Rehearsals and run-throughs, definitely.....oh definitely. Either way, it's not like we weren't a competitive top 12 corps, so there is no right or wrong answer to the question of how to run a group...
Not all the horror stories are true
If they were nobody would march Cadets
I have friends that are marching at the Cadets as we speak, and I've known people that marched in the past. I haven't heard anything that's completely out there. Five hour blocks day to day during move-ins isn't out there, but it's still pretty #### hard.
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I find it funny that someone young enough to march in '07 feels that he is qualified to determine for the rest of us where that line is between low quality and high quality music in terms of arranging for use in drum corps.
Get with the times buddy! This is the post-modern era, not the high-modernist era; there are no rules anymore, no boundaries, no classifications, no labels. John Adams, arguably the most important living composer, (and frequent drum corps source material) has released at least one pop album himself, and an entire opera sung in a pop vocal style. The days of saying this is worthy and that is not are done and gone in the professional musical world. So I find it strange that someone who wants the drum corps world to be more like the professional music world (which it isn't a part of and shouldn't be a part of in my opinion) doesn't even know what the professional music world is.
Your posts drip of fascism, and as a fan of this activity both how it was and currently is, I am offended by both your opinions and your audacity.
By the way, I'm an adult, and I've had plenty of musical experience and study, I think I'm allowed to discuss certain aspects of things. I'm certainly not just pulling things out of my ###.
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Did you know about this style of training going in, or was it a surprise to you once you started? More importantly--do you feel you benefited from it? Did others in your group?
Actually, I wasn't surprised at all going in to it. I actually figured all drum corps were like mine when I was going through the winter season and move-in of my rookie season, THEN I got on tour and saw and interacted with other corps. I was more surprised by some of the other corps (not that what they do is wrong in any way). It depends. Sometimes staff members can take things too far, but those are isolated incidents. But the overarching idea of getting your ### kicked in drum corps, I think, is what the activity is about. Every corps has different perspectives in how they rehearse and how they want to corps to represent themselves, some want to have the more "relaxed" approach, others want to be badasses, that's just the nature of having all these different groups.
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My corps was a mix of both. We would be pushed pretty hard, especially by the visual staff, in an almost boot camp sort of way I guess you could put it. Part of that was also to harden us and keep with the "tough" image the corps was to portray in uniform, it works and still has to this day. I guess it's also important to note that we didn't have long water breaks (gush and go), but I'm pretty sure everyone is like that except a couple of your top corps. But as far as rehearsal goes, we were never put through near the stuff the Cadets people do. The Cadets really know what hard work and a good ### kicking is. From what I know, Phantom and others have very tough staff members and approach to rehearsal to.
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Wild Cherry or Double Diamond?
Sorry I don't gamble
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Uhmmmm?!?! Thanks - good point.
I know it is
War is hell
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Here's my prediction for slotting
1. Blue Devils
2. Cavaliers
3. Phantom
4. Cadets
5. Santa Clara
6. Bluecoats
7. Crown
8. Blue Knights
9. Boston
10. Glassmen
11. Colts
12. PC
Spirit won't be in the top 12, and Boston will most likely slip down. Regionals will tell what's most likely going to happen. Most of these corps haven't competed with each other, so some of these things aren't going to last for long.
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Also, as dbc03 said: I've never known someone to be sent home in the middle of the season. It is not nearly as common as spanksregular makes it out to be.
No, you guys just don't hear about them
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Seriously, I find this hilarious. It's also fun to imagine what the typical "DCP Mom" is like in real life.
Drum corps parents are like band parents except more gung-ho. I personally don't like any parent that has the time to go on message boards (I'm lookin' at you College Confidential Forums)
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If you associated straight-leg marching with SCV you must be new to DCI... they've only been like that the past few years with Hardin. That style of marching has been used by BD for a lot longer, and frankly I think it fits their drill better. Notice how the two corps with the most angular, aggressive drill both march with their legs bent? There's a reason for that... when you move and change direction that much you need to have a bent style in order to keep the "feet out of the sound". Corps like BD can get away with the straight leg thing with their show style. As for Cadets... well, they are freaks. Practice for 14 hours a day and you could have a good sound with straight legs too. :)
What about all the years SCV had angular drill and marched straight leg? Sorry but I'm not buying this, in fact it barely makes sense. I marched the straight leg technique, and the drill I marched (especially last year) was very angular. I'm not speaking of myself as a marcher, but I haven't seen anyone with problems of feet in sound as far as straight leg and any sort of drill. Feet in the sound is just bad technique in general.
Is DCP less busy than last season?
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Maybe people tired of arguing about the same old ######## after 4 years