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{I don’t believe that I ever took a position on the existence of a judging bias regarding Madison. What I did propose was the idea that if the judging community, either individually or as a tool of their dci masters, did use scoring as a mechanism to effect the direction of the “activity” then that would constitute unfair and dishonest behavior on their part.
Even in the absence of concrete and specific examples I do think that it would require a breathtaking level of naïveté to believe that there have never been judges who have allowed their biases to interfere with their ability to judge a show fairly and honestly or allow for the possibility that it even happens on a regular basis. The real question is not if bias enters the judging equation but how often it occurs and if one particular corps has suffered disproportionately because of it. Unfortunately for this discussion judges who act according to their biases rarely declare themselves publicly so here we are flailing around trying to come to some reasonable conclusions based on anecdotal evidence and our own, admittedly biased, understanding of drum corps history.
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In response to the above quote and this thread:
It think it hard to claim tangible bias without there being something concrete to point to, a lowered placement due to this bias. If you are suggesting bias on the level of the kind we face almost every day, then it is not worth all of these discussions. Example: In the summer, I go only to one snow ball stand because I like it. Two other stands on the same street have that shaved ice kind of cold summer treat, but I like my choice and don't think I'll like the other product any better. I in fact do try the other two because I have been appointed by the city to write an article for the paper titled "American City's Best Snow Ball Stand". I go to the other stands and because I know I already like my usual stand, some bias exists before I even order that shaved ice version of a snow ball cone. I might actually over react to my acknowledgment of bias and go to far "the other way"with my assessment.
Here is what I think does happen with most mature, experienced judges: Example: I usually don't prefer this group to its peers, and jazz is not my favorite type of music. I need to be careful of any bias I bring to the "clip board". To be fair, I also need to make sure I do not over compensate for any "built-in" bias.
Can I or you prove this example fits every judge?... of course not. Flaws and all, a system does exist for any corps to contact several levels of authority over the judges to communicate claims of bias, unfairness, etc.
We often forget that DCI is basically run by the board of directors, which is made of corps directors. A DCI summit (new school for rules congress) where the corps directors and staffs change or don't change many aspects of the activity based on what they feel is important for their individual groups and the activity as a whole, including judging. Again, not a perfect system.
For every corps that may have been slighted some, there have been corps that have been overtly pushed some. For every undeserved tenth, there has been a deserved tenth not given. It think it probably all evens itself out so to speak over time, though not justifying anything unfair, just acknowledging the built in flaws of subjectivity. Judges are human, subject to influence, faillible, and influenceable. Due to this FACT, even without thinking I was being dealt with fairly, I would not turn my back on all of them (judges) due to the assumed bias of some. I would not openly ridicule them as charlatans. I would not stop going to critique. I would not send in innocent Japanese members to make a farce out of the critique system (what message did that send to the Japanese members, much less the judges? What about the lesson to the other corps members as to how to deal with such issues!)
Unprovable, conjecture, draining, not worth it, does make Scouts alumni seem overly sensitive and self empowered to always point a finger somewhere rather than at themselves.
Go Scouts. Good show this summer. Would love to see them in finals. If I were a judge today or tomorrow, I would have them in. But because I love a come-back story, I would need to be careful of my current, understandable, explainable, bias. If I am an experienced and mature judge, I'll deal with bias just fine and be as fair as is humanly possible.
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Rehearsal Day
When:Aug 6, 2008
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HOUSING: Closed Practices (map)
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Not officially speaking for the corps: but as an alumni, to respond to this and to someone's comment about this becoming a bloodbath, Regiment has had closed finals week rehearsals most years since 1987. I think it is smart. Family and friends are allowed to see members at judicial times. Though family, friends, and fans are extremely important, doesn't the journey from audition camp to finals need to be focused primarily on it constructed purpose?
Also love the added drama it gives to there being an additional ending change since Allentown. Whether it happens or not, the additional anticipation should aid the electricity of the stadium on Thursday.
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What are you talking about? There is no way you compare the Cadets show to anyone elses in DCI. They have the easiest brass book in all of DCI, because they don't play half of the show (or play minor chords as a back drop to all the narration). Just because other corp's hold out chords, doesn't mean you can liken their musical book to let's say, BD. BD's brass show is 100 times more difficult.
Get out a stopwatch. Write down categories of the composition elements I mentioned. Add up tallies of the time spent per element.
100 time more difficult? Though you are a BD supporter, you can't really think that...really? I think both groups (BD, Cadets), and Cavaliers, have issues with brass book content.
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I would have to say that the judges have to make a judgement call. When half of the show you aren't playing the lead, you are just playing back-up chords for the narrator, how can you give them the same weight of difficulty of a corps whose players lead the whole show, and don't play back-up for a narrator?
A twist on your question: How do the judges make a call when 80%-90% of a corps's brass book is sustained chords, unison short motives with no phrase length or development, unison harmonized rhythms, and sound effects? even without narration?
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I would have to say that the judges have to make a judgement call. When half of the show you aren't playing the lead, you are just playing back-up chords for the narrator, how can you give them the same weight of difficulty of a corps whose players lead the whole show, and don't play back-up for a narrator?
A twist on your question: How do the judges make a call when 80%-90% of a corps's brass book is sustained chords, unison short motives with no phrase length or development, unison harmonized rhythms, and sound effects? even without narration?
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What I think will happen:
1st Regiment
2nd Cavaliers
3rd Blue Devils
4th Carolina Crown
5th Cadets
6th SCV
7th Bluecoats
8th Blue Knights
9th Blue Stars
10th Glassmen
11th Boston Crusaders
12th Crossmen
13th Scouts
14th Spirit
15th Colts
How I would place the corps (based on what and how, not my allegiances):
1st Regiment
2nd Carolina Crown
3rd Cavaliers
4th Blue Devils
5th Cadets
6th Bluecoats
7th SCV
8th Blue Stars
9th Blue Knights
10th Crossmen
11th Boston Crusaders
12th tie Scouts/Glassmen
13th Colts
14th Spirit
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That was not my intention at all as I am sure you realize. I will look at my review and edit any reference that may seem judgmental in that way. It was merely an observation. I meant no illwill.
Edited on this string.
Hey ajlemm,
Thanks for being so nice about the post. I re-read my reaction to your initial post this morning, and though I think I made it clear I assumed you meant no harm, my first few sentences do infer some negative assumptions. I am new on this board and I am not familiar with frequent posters such as yourself. My first reaction was that you could be a fairly young fan( reacting only emotionally to the performance without thinking it through). I pride myself on my drum corps history, thus I am VERY surprised I totally did not notice your picture. Doing so, I would have realized when you marched. I was one of the few that liked that uniform and understood the history behind the kaki. Being a teacher, I am overly sensitive to young people's feelings/self perception. I wasn't so much judging you as I was worried how someone else could (actually would in my experience) take your comment too negatively. Sorry if I caused you any undeserved guilt.
Thanks
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Just curious about who you consider the new names to be on the judging roster this year. I can't really say there is any one new on the visual panels from what I have run into. Admittedly I don't pay as much attention to the music panels.
Very fair question. I am too tired right now to compare panels and list names, but I admittedly look at brass and perc judges' names first, followed by visual. True, not all names are new, but some are and some names listed are of judges that have only trialed last season. Certainly not to suggest that a new or young judge can not be "right", honest, or insightful. As with tonight's teams scoring in the 84-86 range, tenths do make a difference. Splitting hairs is usually reserved for the most experienced surgeons...so to speak.
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I am going to write up a quick review. By the way, it was pretty clear to many of us tonight watching the show that Cavies probably pulled out the upset. They just really brought it tonight, and although the Blue Devils show was good, maybe great, they didn't look as clean as I expected, and the hole from their injured horn player was very obvious throughout the show. Good or bad, not sure. But in my scoresheet I did have Cavies winning by a slight margin. Bring it on PR and Crown!
I guess it is time for me to stop stating that I usually only post reviews since I have responded to three threads in 24 hours. I had to re-read your post to confirm my fear;
though probably innocent for a lack of in-depth thought or maturity, your posts suggests that the hole in BDs drill, resultant of the hospitalized member, may actually have directly contributed to BD's loss to Cavies. PLEASE !!!, request that your comment is deleated or edited from DCP before the recovering member or his family, friends, or current marching members of the 2008 Devils read your statement. Though I assume most will blow it off, better to not have anyone have to spend one second giving your innuendo one moment of thought. Because you state "good or bad", I take that to mean you did not intend any judgement. But this guy is already stressed enough, I am sure, about missing the rest of the season and how it may impact the corps. BTW, keeping the hole clearly open until the spot is replaced or closed judiciously by the staff is the expected reaction to such situations.
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OK Wes. Keep breathing. God bless you for being so passionate and committed to a concept known as consistency and fairness. I can not say that I disagree with you at all. Knowing of your support of BK, I have been waiting for a post from you.
The fairness in judging has always been a point of contention in this activity. As I look, listen, re-evaluate past years (back to the early 80s by the way), I have found that my more mature/older look on things (compared to my younger years),has shown a very consistent phenomenon. By and large, I find myself almost always agreeing with final placements for the top five or six corps, as well as the placement for the bottom two or three. This leaves the middle three or four that seem to be the part of the "pack" that I agree with the placements the least. Though not excusing judges nor the judging system, this mire of got placements right/didn't get 'em right seems logical and based on human nature, human error, human tendency, human inconsistency, and human subjectivity.
This middle pack probably (though there are always exceptions) will probably display the largest variation in performance/evaluation from night to night. I think it is that teetering between show design vs. performance that creates a fine line of how a judge reacts.
This leads me to one of my biggest suggestions to explain your (and many others, including myself) frustration with score/placement swings.
1. A judge that is evaluating one of these "middle corps" for the first time (as is the case with MANY groups post Atlanta) will be very reactive to an overall impression without catching most of the detail that these middle groups are capable of demonstrating (BK is a perfect example). Judges that are evaluating for the third of fourth time have a different relationship with the corps. This brings me to my second point.
2. Personal relationships/communication is usually established through MULTIPLE critiques with the same judges. In my many years of teaching drum corps, I can not remember one time when the score by any one specific judge did not go up after having had a chance to converse with him/her. The jest of my meetings with them was always to thank them for the positive, confirm with them the things we mutually agree need work, to explain my view of things upon which we disagree, and to point out the things that I knew they had missed in their evaluation. I rarely found this approach to be ineffective with the intended process of critique. There are fewer critiques these days and it is impractical, if not impossible for all corps to see all judges equally. I see MANY new names on the judging rosters this summer. This can be scary or promising. Fresh blood is needed in any subjective judging system. Training and experience will of course cause the new judges to become better at their very important job. And on to point number three.
3. I am convicted to always get better at all aspects of my undertakings. For me, part of my life includes judging, designing shows, etc. I work hard to never be biased and to improve my own crafts knowing that there are always people out there that are doing "it" better than me. I do know judges that are as self-analytical as me, and some that are not. Some have different skills than myself. Many judges, including myself recognize others' skill sets and try to improve these areas for ourselves. The fan network is a God-send in regards to show study. With the shows/corps in question, I have looked carefully at the videos multiple times to hopefully gain insight to why I also find myself frustrated with some placements. I find my efforts here are more based on the fact that I am frustrated primarily because I tend to take this disagreement as my own weakness to accurately evaluate this "middle group".
Looking at BK, Glassmen, Crusaders, Crossmen, Blue Stars, Madison and Crossmen (currently the middle down to some that will not make finals), I have tried to do several things:
1. Watch the most current videos with the sound off. This allows me to concentrate on visual construction and performance. Though the visual should go hand in hand with the music, good visual flow, variety, integration, timing, technique, ensemble, balance, blend, etc. should exist in a visual package no matter what the music offers.
2. I replay the videos and simply listen. Again, though intended to be a great marriage with the visual, as with watching without listening, listening only should reveal similar elements: flow, variety, integration, timing, technique, ensemble, balance, blend, etc.
3. Then, as stated in an earlier post, I ask myself several questions:
Is there visual state of the art? At what level are they performing this element?
Is there visual innovation? "
Is there musical state of the art? "
Is there musical innovation? "
How is the pacing? "
Am I entertained and at what percentage of the show? "
Most importantly, when watching with audio and video, how do all the elements come together? At what rate of frequency?
The clincher for me is to imagine each of the shows in question performed "perfectly" by some "perfect" membership with "perfect" skills (of course with all visceral/human emotion offerings in tact), which shows would best answer the questions listed above? Which show would I most eagerly wait to see again?
After I have my impressions/thoughts/placements, I then realize it is up to the talents of the staff and member to get as close to that "perfect" show as possible.
Yes, I have done this with the corps listed above. I feel strongly as to how I think the shows stack up against each other. As far as the performance level, this seems to be the most inconsistent element between these groups right now.
Though I wish for several show elements to be different in BK's show, they rise to the top of my rankings. This production is not "my cup of tea", nor would I immulate this design in my own writing. However, bias aside, the elements of design are strong. I thought the score from two events ago would level off the next show. That obviously did not happen. I think the reason(s) are all related to those I have discussed as well as the fact that after viewing the show today, I felt they (BK) did not have a good performance compared to what I have recently seen on video and witnessed live in Atlanta. Though I have no bases for the following thought, it seemed as though the placements form the previous show may have "gotten to them". Several things that were clean, locking in firmly, selling confidently in Atlanta were frayed. This allows a NEW judge, or one with limited experience with BK or DCI judging, to react/over react negatively. Some shows that are threatening BK's pre-Atlanta placement have more of an instant accessibility show in my view, though they wear thin quickly, often with only a second viewing.
This is probably more response than you were looking for, and I am sure it could be written in a clearer fashion.
I share your frustration and do always default to the "judging is subjective, I may not always agree, it really is about the members' experiences first and foremost."
I do not see the rankings from last night remaining the same between now and finals.
Keep breathing.
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I hardly ever respond to a thread, but this one seems too interesting to pass up. I must first state that it is interesting how quickly people get defensive or protective, however, that passion is what will help keep drum corps alive and DCP more interesting.
Having taught drum corps for more than a decade, I will state that most staffs (visual, music, and administrative) would agree with many here, visual does carry more reward than does music. This statement can not easily be defended by looking at recaps or scoring/winning trends. By looking at sheets/recaps you see that GE gets 40 points, and 30 goes to visual and 30 to music. This seems to reveal that both music and visual are indeed equal in possible points, with music and visual both contributing to each GE caption. Though the visual team is reliant on the music for creativity and general construction direction, it is the music that relies more heavily on the efforts of the visual team: staging, connectivity, proximity, do-ability, fatigue, interpretation, direction, step size, etc.
Within the circles of band, drum corps, pageantry art folks in which I live, there seems to be a general understanding that a great musical package with an average visual effort does not sound as good as a great music offering with a great visual package that really allows the music come to life on a football field. Though you may argue this understanding has a "reverse" version, that reverse version does not see quite as significant.
Another understanding amongst most designers is that if you don't have a good guard, you're screwed. They affect every visual caption (including their own caption of course) and Music GE.
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Though not wishing any corps to fall out of finals, it should be recognized that any group that makes it in for the first time after spending some time out of the Saturday show carries with it a certain level of excitement and underdog heroism. For this to happen for Crossmen or Madison, someone has to fall out of finals.
Here is how I answer the initial post's question for myself:
Between Glassmen, Crossmen, Madison, and Spirit, which show offers the most in regards to outstanding show construction in ALL areas, as well as solid visual and Musical GE coordination and pacing. It helps me to try to imagine each show in question performed perfectly by the most skilled members of the activity. If that were to happen, which show would show itself as the superior in ALL areas mentioned? Once I establish that for myself, I then look at the rate of improvement from each group over the past week or so and question if the actual talent level (member and staff) is enough to present the show at its intended best. (This part is of course highly subjective and one should consider that some weeks are better cleaning weeks than others depending on many factors, though we are now down to the final stretch). Hope that all makes sense.
My take on the four shows in order of what is written: Crossmen, followed by Madison, then Spirit and Glassmen so close I call it a tie.
My take on the rate of improvement in the last week or so: Madison,followed by Crossmen, Spirit, then Glassmen.
Both scenarios place Spirit and Glassmen at highest risk in my view.
The final shake up of things is of course up to each corps' improvements and what the judges recognize as the show(s) that offer the most in regards to show construction in ALL areas, as well as solid visual and musical GE coordination and pacing.
I feel we could possibly see two returnees to finals this season. Again, I hate to see anyone fall out of finals.
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Atlanta Review
So my vacation is nearing its end and I must say that book ending it with two major DCI regionals has been wonderful.
Due to relying on friends for transportation (to who I am very grateful), I missed Pioneer, Mandarins, Troopers, The Academy, and Pacific Crest. Sorry. I hope readers enjoy the review. It is truly honest and stated with no intentions to hurt or single out any one corps. This was my last show of the year. Good luck to all corps. May all members truly have an experience of a life time.
Spirit: This group seemed much better than in San Antonio. The "home town" support probably helped some, as the crowd gave them a big cheer as they entered the stadium. The overall sound and music ensemble timing are the areas where I noticed the most improvement. These gains aided the overall music GE. As tuning gets better, the arrangements have come to life more. To be honest, my ears get tired of hearing BbM and EbM all night. The colors and different key centers offered in Spirit's music book are a welcomed treat. The show still does not seem to flow very well. While I do not mind being challenged mentally with a show, I do want to "get" enough of the concept to not feel lost. This show still looses my attention quickly as pacing and theme obscurities are a problem. With the lack of visual and show pacing improvements over the past week, I am afraid that this may be a year where Spirit can not make it up in two weeks and secure a finalist spot. Talented group with a great percussion offering. The drum line continues to sell their show pretty well, and is at times as convincing as BD, PR, or Cavies. Best of Luck Spirit.
Colts: I liked this group much better in San Antonio. There have been a considerable number of changes to the show (this fact made them more dirty than in SA). Though probably well intended, they are not the kind of changes that I think can propel them into finals. I REALLY miss the opening drill sequence! It was very well crafted and created great momentum into the first hit. The sun form that resulted by the opening drill was clever and surprising (and pretty darn clean). Horn impacts are still very solid and the guard has made some improvement, but seemed to be passed up by several guards that were not as clean as they were last weekend. Though not my favorite corps, I liked the whole old school approach last weekend. There were several well-constructed segues/moments (the original opening sequence) that kept it fresh enough that I thought they would be a sure finalist. I now do not see that as a strong possibility. The old school guard uniform, flags, over-the-top Broadway costumes of guard soloists were barely OK for me last weekend, they now come across as much too campy. With the changes, the old school theme has been elevated and the new school stuff, not all, but for the most part, has been diminished. As with Spirit, they are very talented and really deliver some great moments. I can only imagine how it must seem to be a finalist one year, and then be in that 13-17 range and fighting for a finalist spot the next year. Changes do seem appropriate as opposed to simply cleaning, however, these changes do not seem to elevate the show in my view. Would love to see them back in finals. Even with my negative impressions, I do think this show is better performed than at least one of the finalist groups. Best of luck Colts.
Madison Scouts: For me this group showed the most improvement since San Antonio compared to all other corps. Though several other corps showed definite improvement, Scout's improvement was almost shocking. My impressions were well supported by the unanimous standing ovation they received at the end of the show. Loud, confidant, professional, entertaining, and detailed. In my opinion, this group needs to only change minor things that will make them cleaner. CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN should be the mantra to the end. This pertains particularly to the color guard. Not to harp on this hard working section, it is true, as many have said; much can be gained by this entire corps by the guard getting cleaner and more confident. I am sure the other sections know to be supportive and encouraging as the improvement of the guard will really aid the overall GE (where the most points are to be gained by any corps). I love the flag designs and the drill re-writes are all MUCH for the better. Kudos to the person responsible for the rewrites. The horn line was vastly improved since SA and really helps their GE. The drum line was also much improved since SA and have created much more dynamic contrast. The drum solo that was too aggressive the entire time in SA came across as much more musical and entertaining. The crowd really responded. There are still quiet a few individual horn body mistakes that unfortunately end in a step off, creating some out of step moments. Overall though, much cleaner visually. As of this regional, not only have they improved a lot, but also I feel (as did many around me) that they have a very legit shot at performing Saturday night at IU. Like Colts, their show seems better designed than at least one or two groups above them. Best of luck Madison.
Since the following groups all made the night show, my comments are based on both performances. I felt that all corps from the morning show that made finals were better in finals except Glassmen. I am not trying to bash them. I am truly stumped as to why they are scoring where they are. After San Antonio I told myself is must be me and I came to Atlanta completely open-minded. I have always pulled for Glassmen, yes, even in the “boring” years. Unfortunate label they fostered themselves.
Blue Stars: Some improvement since San Antonio was evident, but less than what should happen between now and finals to keep their current spot, or even the spot lower (they will of course have two weeks instead of one, but I am considering such). That having been stated, I really like this show and want desperately for them to make finals convincingly. They do not seem to have seem talent level as some corps around them, but seem better trained perhaps? I of course have no fact to back up this precept; it is simply an overt impression. The large guard is effective, but still fairly dirty enough to distract at times. The spilt guard writing at the beginning (my favorite part of the entire show design) will have to be super clean to be read clearly as spilt parts. The drum line seemed a little cleaner in SA. Perhaps some changes were implemented that are not yet comfortable. The large percentage of white of the uniform accentuates visual problems that seem widespread at this point. I agree with many others; the theme is well chosen for their level and creates a healthy, follow-able thread for the audience to understand. The ballad playing was exceptional and one of the most mature and musical offerings of the show. Thanks for challenging the members to learn, understand, and perform melody(s)! The shakos do not bother me at all. Seems the crowd is solidly behind them to be a finalist. Best of luck Blue Stars.
Glassmen: This corps was better in San Antonio for me and those that accompanied me at both regionals. Some thought they were significantly better in SA, though I was not one of them. The theme is very accessible and a great idea. What is more fun and has possibility for all sorts of emotions and excitement than a carnival? The guard costumes are unique and capricious. The flags are relevant and clever (the closing silk is breath-takingly beautiful and very effective). The pit physically performs very well and the drum major carries himself very soundly (maybe the best of the event). Some big individual performance glitches from the morning show went away in the night show. After seeing the show on video several times and then in person several times after, I find the show lacking in several major design components compared to those shows within several places on either side of this group. The show flow and story line are extremely allusive. The drill is very dirty though the individual marching is solid. I was hoping my earlier impressions of the drill construction were incorrect; unfortunately, I feel my take on it was confirmed with the two viewings Atlanta. The horn and drum drill contributes little to no effect for me and moves at almost the same increment the whole show. The guard carries almost all of the visual interest and are always overtly prevalent and almost always presented with multiple focus (often with four separate elements). The guard is good but seems to be falling behind other groups in the area of cleaning. Do not get me wrong, the guard is VERY good. The horn line certainly reached us with volume, but it was an immature, harsh sound. The brass seem to need the most attention along with drill cleaning and music GE. The audience clapped only mildly a few times, and not at all after most arrivals. It felt EXTREMELY awkward in the dome each time this happened. The applause at the end of the show was somewhat widespread and some did stand up for the group. Though the judges seem to disagree at this point, I fear they may not hang on to a finalist spot. I also feel that on DCP I am in the minority with my opinion with Glassmen. I will continue to hope its just me. I do want them to succeed with what I see as a fun and unique concept. I also want the best corps in the activity to make finals. Glassmen simply are not one of those corps for me right now. Best of luck Glassmen.
Crossmen: Behind Scouts, I felt this to be the second most improved corps. I was surprised they were 12th again. Though some cleaning remains, the color guard was stellar (no pun intended) and VERY musical. I was surprised to see their placement, but expect that to change before finals week. A few individual glitches showed up for finals that were not there in the day show. They X theme is saturated throughout the show in many ways. The horn line sounds wonderful at times and not so wonderful at times. The wonderful makes me think “If they can do it often, they can soon do it always.” Thought their brass placement for the day show to be right on. Some hits seem to be unfulfilled and the pacing wanes too often. The pit offers some very cool sounds and writing. The drum line needs a bit of improving over the next two weeks. This show design and color guard, combined with the rate of cleaning they have been doing makes me feel good about their chances of being in finals if not moving up a spot. Best of luck Crossmen.
Boston: Better than in SA, but seemed to lack some energy in both shows. The opening is a winner and well designed. The percussion, brass, and marching seemed to have jumped ahead of the guard significantly. The red roman soldier headgear plume used at the end of the show (I know this is not what they intend it to be) comes across as not to be taken seriously. The sky-blue opening flag (though resembling a colorful space cloud) does not seem to fit the opener’s aggressive and up-beat character. The horn line is loud at times, loosing some quality on the move. It must be noted the horn lien is challenged to run and play a lot. The horn arrangements seem scored a little too thickly at times at the bigger volumes, though the tight scoring adds great colors to the book at softer volume levels. The drum line was VERY good in spots but seemed a little disheveled at the bigger demand moments. Pacing at most times was very well paced. I did want one more arrival point in the opener and in the third section. The drill is very well crafted and is one of the best offerings of the show. The theme is good, but looses direction. The “Conquest” is well received, but definitely comes across as tacked on and not part of the show proper. A good show, with obvious cleaning to do. A solid finalist. Best of luck Boston.
SCV: Also better than in SA and I think I now have a description that fits how the show comes across to me: really solid, though always lacking some clear focus, this becoming more overt as the show progresses. When I try to break down the answer for improvement, I can not find one answer that is as obvious as saying add volume, or brighter silks, or more movement, etc. The closer was performed much more convincingly than in SA but lacks the effectiveness of the earlier parts of the show. The guard, percussion, horns, and drill are at times as good as any and at times more lackluster than the other top seven. If you have not seen the show and have a chance to do so, really try to focus on the entire field during the first minute. The horn and drum drill, as well as the color guard, offer their own high level of coolness. The guard stuff is innovative and pleasingly quirky. I really do not know what else to say other than they are a very good corps that probably will not contend for a top five spot. Best of luck SCV.
BK: Though I made an effort in SA, I admit I still had an edge of apprehension towards BK. Like with my impressions of Glassmen’s show in SA, while in Atlanta, I really let go of past impressions and let it all hit me fresh and anew. I liked them in SA and enjoyed them even more in Atlanta. Not exactly my cup of tea, but as I stated after SA, I am so GLAD they are out there doing THEIR thing, and doing it with class, technique, and quality. The “Amazing Grace” theme does seem convoluted, but lays decently in the show nonetheless. All sections of the corps are on equal footing, with the horn line impressing many quite a bit. Though not always technically demanding, the brass book offers some real tuning challenges and the horn line is handling these quite well. All of the dance and body is VERY impressive, though at times seeming too busy to allow the audience to take it all in during some phrases. A few easier drum licks seemed to get away from the drumline during the show. I am tiring of the all white guard uni and the hand painted flags, as beautiful as they are. Besides their body and dance offerings, the drill is fresh and well crafted, keeping you often guessing as to form resolution (opposite of many corps). A solid 8th come finals. Best of luck Blue Knights.
Cadets: This will be my shortest review. Drum, spin, march, play their ##### off. Play and march the high demand moments better than anyone does. Cadets have always been my favorite corps though not every year not specifically my favorite. I am pro voice- over, amps, electronics, etc. In SA, they were OK. In Atlanta, I found the show to be irritating. I was shocked that this was my reaction, but it is honestly what I felt the entire time. Though some on DCP have made a strong effort to support, laud, explain, justify the voice over, my opinion is that it completely, wholly, and absolutely does not work. I am a huge advocate of always giving the members the best vehicle to allow them to succeed at or above their talent level. This is far from matching the corps talent. At finals 5th or lower, unfortunately. Best of luck Cadets.
PR: I lied. This will be my shortest review. WOW!!! ON FIRE. LOUDEST CORPS I HAVE EVER HEARD. EMOTIONAL. UNBELIEVABLE MELLOS. BEST ALL TIME CLASSICAL SOLO EVER (mello in ballad). SO GOOD THAN WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT PERFECT, IT REALLY STANDS OUT. More guard improvement needed. Needs over-the-top ending to win…a real possibility. THIS SHOW IS OFFICIALLY A DRUG. I NEED MORE… NOW! Best of luck Regiment.
Blue Coats: Good theme with a voice-over used almost perfectly. Little better than SA. Regarding scores, I wonder if judges are over reacting to the fact that this simply is not last year’s corps. They are very good and offer a fun show that draws you in to the performance much of the show. Though I agree with some of their sub caption placements, others seem too low when compared to other groups. The drum line is amazing I felt the second best of the evening. The guard is good, but seems in need of the most improvement. The drill has gone through major changes since the first video I saw. Some minor changes have taken place since SA. They are visually dirtier than I would expect at this time of year, but the drill is admittedly very exposed. The horn line is not what is was last year, but in reality, only very few in the activity have ever sustained the same or near level of achievement year after year. I still really dig the “new” corps uniform. I do not think I would change anything at this point. Cleaning seems to be focus at this point to ensure 6th or 7th place. I enjoy this show much more than Cadets, but the talent level between each, as well as the level of polish seems on an entire different plain of achievement with Cadets. The boxers are very convincing by the way, though clearly feather weights. Best of luck Blue Coats.
Cavies: A championship show in some past years, but not this one I fear. They were much better than in SA from a showmanship standpoint, but I was less intrigued with the show. Too many typical, tried and true and well-done Cavie-isims. The are truly great and entertaining, I am just ready for more “new.” I thought last year was a risk for them and I applauded that risk. The activity too often looks at a champion like Cavies and says, “They had a bad year.” Excuse me, since when was third place with a show that was out of the box for any corps a bad year? I hope this year’s show was not a reaction to last year’s third place that resulted in a familiar “original music” show format. I have no problem with original music and certainly welcome that to the marching arts. The horn line sounds great, though they seemed to have an off night for them (individual cracks and fracks). The drums are amazing as is the guard. The jumping over each other is off the charts and the pacing near flawless. Guard costume is a 10 and some of the pit sounds are super cool. Beyond the pit sounds, the music does not sound Asian to me and Saucedo employs themes he has used in past shows, making the music sound too familiar with a non-Asian association. As with Blue Coats, no one can sustain something at the same level every year. I laud their success and hope for something new next year. Best of luck Cavaliers.
Crown: As good as in SA, but with a little less punch. The guard was better, though I thought that to be near impossible. My favorite guard of the year by far. This includes how they are staged, how well they march, how well they spin, and how well they project confidence. They all seem to be seven feet tall. The guard costuming is beyond perfect for the show, while also being fresh, new, and fun. My third favorite drum line. The writing is super varied with appeal at every turn. The tuning probably works better outside, but the projection of clarity was right on in doors. Please do not take out the flams! Pit writing is different and perfectly scored. The lower end clarity was lost in the dome, but is probably fine outside. I have yet to mention an instructor’s name, but here I have to do so. Lee Beddis has been around a looonnngggg time. He has written and taught many (all) styles. He has only gotten better in my view and that includes the 1996 championship as percussion caption head with Regiment. The corps moves their butts off, more so than it initially seems. The horn line is more exposed than any other corps in my opinion, and I do think they deserve some credit for this even when there is a tiny glitch. The new ending is great and the tempos seem faster since SA. I wish all fans could see them live this year. A solid top four finisher with a very entertaining and approachable show. Best of luck Carolina Crown.
BD: Though cleaner visually than SA, I liked the show less. Absurd is a brilliant concept; this title allows anything to be OK as far as show construction is concerned. Some have described this show as ultra innovative. Though the running to set seems like an idea worth exploring, I do not see anything else as “pushing the envelope.” Some of the “deconstruction” visual elements come across as mildly clever ways of aiding less than ideal transitions at times. The show is great and well conceived, I am just not overwhelmed. Yes, there is a lot going on, but too much at times for a unified effect. The “absurd” seems more like “random” to me and that is not necessarily a bad thing. I do think all sections to be title-worthy from all aspects of the word. I am amazed at their confidence and ability to sell you pretty hard almost the entire show. Kudos to the tenor drummer by the way. Once he got his drum on the carrier, just in time to play, my whole section applauded (a little delay in getting the drums on the carrier following a section where guard members hold the drum for the tenor players). Some transitions cause some mild “ick”for me (i.e. once the guard places the balance poles in the concentric arc formation stage left, and then picks up equipment and performs moving away from the crowd during fff volume from the music in a bunchy form that is working hard to move around and behind the horns and drums). A great group of amazing performers that I think can be beaten by finals week. However, I would be glad to see them as champions again. Best of luck Devils.
I think than when it comes down to picking a champion between BD, Regiment, or Cavies, I ask myself: Which group do I most want to see again? Which group represents amazing drum corps with a show that is different from everyone else? Which group represents the true essence of the visceral experience in art? In addition, what group is achieving the near impossible at the highest percentage of the show? As of Atlanta, I am thinking PR fits all of these question best. I also know from following the activity since 1980, some drastic changes can take place in two weeks. Best of luck to all.
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Though still not sure (I am holding off until the Atlanta Regional), this may be the best year of this decade. I say this not based on the top seven, but based on corps 8-20. As of San Antonio, the top six or so seem slightly below the level of last year, though very close. The competition and quality of corps below the top seven are stronger and offering better quality in most areas, certainly in the area of performance.
Since reviewing my first show several weeks ago in California, I have been eager to see all of the other corps. My summer vacation is book-ended by the SA and Atlanta regionals. So after SA, I was off doing those vacation things, so the review is late. I will review corps in the general order of placement.
I definitely focus on show construction (GE and technical construction) and horn lines. I have had success in all areas (drill, arranging, color guard, percussion, brass) from a writing and teaching perspective.
Pioneer: Better than last few years. Their size does seem to hurt them in that everyone else seems considerably larger. The music is pleasant and there are a few coordinated moments that garner attention from the audience. The shoe them is less forced than past years and flows fairly well, though slowly. Eager to see them improve going into Atlanta.
Mandarins: Better than in California, but not near as much as I expected. The theme, uniform, impacts and energy are there, but cleaning seems to be progressing forward slowly. I still enjoyed them. Compared to all WC corps, they I agreed with their placement.
Academy: People often refer to a corps as being talented, but readers are never quite sure what that means specifically. My view of Academy's talent refers to all sections. The play, spin, and march well. There are several loud impacts. The corps physically looks strong. The show just doesn't seem to have direction enough that I can be drawn in to it nor enjoys any sense of flow. I hope them the best. I am VERY curious as to how this show came about. The members have a lot to be proud of with their talent and obvious effort.
PC: As with Mandarins, I expected more improvement since California. I of course do not know any particulars as to what causes any corps to clean or improve beyond what we all know. Though I enjoyed the show more than what was presented in Cali, the lack of cleaning compared to the other corps was distracting. The beginning and end carry the most impact. We will see what the week brings.
Troop: I was excited to see Troopers and they did not disappoint. The show is well conceived and offers good pacing. The drill is a little too predictable, but generally well done. Nice brass sound and some good moments from the drum line. As others have stated, more guard would really even out the overall production. Forward direction next year based on the past two seasons should prove very promising.
Spirit: Much like Academy, the talent seems to be abundant with this group. The drum line is particularly good and on fire at times. Solid horn impacts and some great sounds at times. The show construction just seems ??? Long???
Colts: Very interesting to do a retro show that is this retro in so many aspects. Much of the show is as clean as some groups placing five or six places ahead of them. I did enjoy it. Though they were well ahead of several groups in the 10-15 range in regards to performance skills, the show design just seems to not offer enough to be as intriguing as a top 12 show should be.
Madison: I did enjoy this show, particularly the first half. The second half needs more attention for a top twelve spot, though that seems still another season away in my view. The uniforms blend into the field considerably. The horn line was not as loud as some have reported; they seem to be going for a more refined sound than last year.
Crossmen: After the opening statement , I thought "Top twelve". I sort of held my breath hoping they would maintain that level throughout the production. Though that did not happen, they were very good. The horn line seemed to be the slight weakness and the guard and drill the most advanced elements. Everyone loves a Cinderella story, this could be the one of the summer. I am very excited to see what happens in one week. Way to go Crossmen. I could see them moving up a spot or even two if they clean up more and up the confidence projection.
Glassmen: After the excitement of Crossmen, I was eager to see Glassmen. I have read a lot of positive reviews and liked last years improvements. Though there were some impacts, I was generally disappointed. The guard is very entertaining and carry almost all of the visual interest. The drill pacing and construction seems very odd if not ill-constructed. There are some real cute moments that are related to the theme. Though they allow for some equipment changes and leveling, I am not a fan of the trunks.
Blue Stars: Wow, very cool and powerful opening statement. All elements of the corps seem on about the same ability level. Show construction and performance for me was a whole level above Glassmen. A sure finalist. I enjoyed it.
Blue Knights: Though not always a BK fan, I like this show. All elements of this corps also seem on the same level of ability. The visual is very intriguing and different from everyone else. I am looking forward to seeing them again next week end. Thanks Knights for bringing variety to the field.
Crusaders: Like other groups, after reading many reviews, I was ready to see this corps. The opening statement is super good and set the tone of the show. This group seemed fairly even with BK , but not as clean. This show comes across as one that when clean creates much more effect.
SCV: I love the class you since as soon as this corps enters the field. The first 3/4 is still great, but much more cleaning is needed. The end seems better than in Cali, but more is needed. Some very new and cool guard offerings. I regretfully do not see this show moving above 7th without something significant happening.
Blue Coats: Clearly better than SCV for me. I find the theme to be tastefully done. The shout section of "The Boxer" is stunning. Eager top see them in a week.
Cadets: First off, my favorite corps for many reasons over the years. I am a fan of forward progress and experimentation. This years show however bothers me. It is not terrible by any means. As a matter of fact, the corps is amazing. The voice over simply is not well conceived or coordinated. Though risking some ridicule, I must state that if you want to do a show that is centered on a voice over, there are MANY that have done so EXTREMELY well in the band arena. Behind the voice over is some stellar marching, playing, and spinning. This group does it on the move better than anyone.
PR: Better than in Cali. A great theatrical show. What a horn line. Great drums. Good drill and color guard. Needs a new ending.
Crown: I was excited as most were to see this show. My favorite of the night. Other groups more complicated..YES. Others more demand...YES. Others more entertaining...Not for me. The show I am most excited to see again this weekend. Guard is amazing. Horns loud with quality. I really like this drum line. My favorite of the evening.
Cavies: Very good in all captions. Very well done. Too much the same as the other "original music years" for me. Can not see them winning.
BD: Though not my favorite, they certainly dare you to say the can't perform. All areas great. More demand than Crown, too obscure for me at this point.
Off to more vacation stuff. Looking forward to Atlanta. Best of Luck to all.
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###### all. I was right. Should have known since no one called me on it. That will teach me to type before having my coffee.
1980 Russian Easter
1981 First Spatacus
1982 Second Spartacus
1983 Tchaikovsky
1984 Scythian Suite/Armenian/1812
1985 Berloiz (A show that needs to be redone)
OK, that's enough to shake the cob webs.
Hope I have not confused anyone else.
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EDIT:
SO SORRY. For a guy who prides himself on knowing drum corps history, I blew it. I stated that PR did Spartacus 82,82....NOT TRUE, it was 80 and 81.
82 was an all Tchaikovsky show. 1980 is the "once in a life time" amazing show...Really, check it out...listen for Brazale encouraging the corps to "Go with it!"
82 was darn good as well.
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Since this is my first review, a little about myself: I marched in 1984 and have been a fan of drum corps since 1980. I like all corps but have considered my self first and foremost a Cadet fan. Though loyal, I do wish the last five or so years with the maroon and gold would have produced some slightly different productions. I consider myself a "current" DCI fan in that I accept and welcome change. There are some "old school" things I miss sometimes, but most of them I do not really see as old school necessarily, more like elements that are cyclical; they come and go over the years as trends change (use of melody, guard equipment, drum solos, volume, theatrics, etc.). I do support experimenting in drum corps because it is how all of the arts (all things for that mater) evolve. If I saw a show today that looked just like 1982, I would be fairly bored because while the show may be performed well, there would be little surprise, newness, etc. With that having been said, drum corps show design does possess a bag of tricks that has and will always work: loud brass, cool drumming, flawless guard tosses, huge splashes of color, etc. Putting a twist on these things helps keeps the shows fresh for the audience, at least for me. All the material between those tried and true elements tend to separate OK designs from great ones. I am a university-level music educator and really support the student end of the drum corps experience. While staff members' experiences are important for a healthy team and personal camaraderie, to risk the cliche...it is first and foremost about the marching members' experiences. I have experience teaching at all levels including a perennial top drum corps as well as very competitive high school band programs. I have written many drills and have taught marching and music. I can not get it out of my blood. It is a shame more of my university colleagues do not appreciate the offerings of the pageantry arts. I always hope my professionalism and academic interaction with fellow musicians to hopefully pull more of them into the fold. I have had a few "takers" over the years. All of them are now happy, supportive consumers; many were at the show last night.
I hope you enjoy the review.
Renegades: There is a lot to be said for the confidence and showmanship that older, experienced drum corps members can bring to the field. So is the case with both junior and senior corps, and such can certainly be said about this show's only DCA corps performance. The music, drill, and guard writing all seemed very appropriate for the group and they sold it well. No one can fault moments of dirt at this point due to the nature of the "beast" so to speak. Some really fine soloists and great variety of effect kept me engaged the entire time. I am not sure how many holes were on the field, seemed to be ten or so. I hope these are filled and this group can
fully realize their potential as a very entertaining ensemble. Best of luck to them as they head to the DCA championships. Did I mention they were loud?
Blue Devils B: The apple does not fall too far from the tree in the case of this great drum corps. Jeepers are they good. They carry the swagger of the "A" corps that for decades was only provided by BD and Madison. The show is very well-paced. All sections are strong. I am particularly impressed with some members that seem to be very young (12 or so ?) and carry themselves physically like many world class members. This can been seen in the guard, horn line, and in the batterie. There is of course cleaning to do, but this group should represent Concord extremely well at championships. After a first viewing, I must state that I felt the theme could be more evident in the production. Congrats to the talented staff and hardworking members.
SCVC: With the hype surrounding the new uniforms for the "A" corps, I never considered the cadet corps would also be in new duds. As they came out of the tunnel onto the field, many onlookers, including myself commented on how sharp, professional, classy this uniform is on the corps. Part of the class is of course brought to fruition by the talented members of the group. All factions of the show are well-conceived, well-taught, and convincingly performed. Some brief moments/phrases seem incomplete visually (body, guard, drill). Most significant seems the balance and blend of the horns and the great upper body control of the entire group. SCVC will also do their home city proud in Bloomington. Excellent efforts by all those involved.
Mystikal: I can not stress enough the evident work ethic displayed on the field by this corps. While the horn line is small in comparison to most corps and even to the size of their corps counterparts (drums and guard), you get a strong energy from each brass musician as they work through their show. Some brass moments sounded excellent, while others remain in need of attention. The large guard is well-taught and the writing is exceptionally musical. The batterie is solid at times and has some innovative writing usually not heard at this level. I would like a little more finesse from them at times. More drum cleaning yet to do. The pit and brass parts are well-married. Best of luck to all those on the Mystikal team. Thanks for the performance.
BDC: For the two decades I have followed the activity, it seems status quo for cadet corps/"B"/ "C" corps to rely heavily of the cute factor to get applause. Though some slices of "cute pie" are served up, I am most impressed that this comes across as a solid package as a viable drum corps show and a great venue for solid training and education. As a music educator, I am always bothered by shows that are way above the performers' heads and lack any real music making opportunities for the musicians. This production is almost a perfect example of what to do with young students in the marching arts. There are multiple opportunities provided for the members to learn and communicate a variety of musical and visual skills. Based on "The Wizard of Oz", creative writing allows this show to be entertaining, educational, and yes at times...cute. Enjoyed it very much. Thanks for providing this sound music education opportunity for these young performers.
Mandarins: This is clearly the best offering I have seen from this group. Though understanding the motivation for the design of past uniforms, their untidy appearance always seemed to diminish the corps professional look. This uniform is clean and attractive, yet also looking like Mandarins. When a show title is announced, certainly one as to the point as "The River", it is natural for audience members to feel a need to make sure they catch all of the "river-esque" components of the show. While overtly evident at times, there seems to be large gaps where the theme is lost. This issue aside, the horn line is loud and at times plays with outstanding control, tone and sensitivity. Too often however, the horn line loses the control and many individuals show an immature level of musicianship. The guard has some beautiful silks and like the horn line, has moments of excellence mixed with a few sections of the book that are certainly on the priority list for cleaning. The guard is strong a certainly has a positive effect on the visual package. The percussion section, while aggressive (which is good), has quite a few phrases undoubtedly on the priority list for cleaning. Pit to batterie displayed some good timing moments, but were more often than not suffering from vertical alignment issues. I feel the overall visual package to be stronger than Academy and Pacific Crest. Good to see this corps on it way up.
Academy: My review here will be presented as the good vs the "needs attention." The talent level in all three components is good, really good. The horn line, followed by the guard and then percussion seems to be talented enough to challenge for the top twelve. Solid visual and musical training is evident throughout. Each faction has a wow moment or two that rivals most world class offerings. The corps uniform has become a favorite of mine and I am pleased with the sound of the Jupiter horns, particularly the tubas. Some technical displays by the brass are almost amazing and they carry quite a punch when called for, even at the end of the performance. What "needs attention" in general is the show. The overall concept does not work for me. I am not taken on a journey from point A to point B. I am never pulled in enough to sense tension build and release above a Ok level of design. Writing for brass, percussion and guard are at times very solid, but much too often do not seem well-planned or staged from a coordination stand point. All three elements of the corps fight each other for attention at times without it being intended. The drill is dirty and average. I want them to be good, really good. They, like Blue Stars have been on the "Cinderella season" track for a few summers. The short of it, the corps seems in real need of a program coordinator. If they have one, I certainly mean no ill will. I watched the show again on the network to make sure my impressions are accurate. I was hoping I had simply just missed it. No...same impression. The show does seem difficult, but as I once heard Cesario expertly state at a design seminar, "we (the audience, which includes judges) will appreciate and react more to the difficulty when you achieve it, own it, make us think no one else could do it, and most importantly, clear out a place in the show pacing for those moments. When it is all technical or all loud or all fast, we stop caring because we stop paying attention. Technical difficulty can be an effect, but it must be a well-planned effect, a part of the whole, not the whole show". I do wish the corps the best of luck. They have achieved amazing things since their inception. A lot of groups have done wonderful things the last month of the season. Again, best of luck, I am puling for you.
Pacific Crest: The story of how this corps operates/rehearses seems a little allusive to me. Admittedly, I have not performed any research to address any of my wonderment. Their production this season reflects that allusiveness to me. Maybe I have been simply wanting them to be the next corps to break into the top twelve, so much so that I set them up to not meet my expectations (yes, maybe unfair on my part). That being stated, the show is good. The horn line and guard are quite good, with the drum line lagging behind a little. A solidly confident opening statement certainly builds up the excitement of things yet to come. Last evening, I did not feel they ever matched that level again in the show. Some very fine drill is mixed with some very functional moments where all components are not contributing enough to the whole. The show is cleaner than Academy at this point and works much better as a total package. The demand may not match Academy in all areas, but we are more entertained and appreciative of the overall achievement level more than with Academy. Though I see them staying ahead of Academy as the shows are currently being presented, I do not see this as a finalist show. Still missing a few design notches and performance maturity. Glad these guys add to the list of good Cali corps.
Phantom Regiment: If the word variety is still on the GE and ensemble sheets, as it should be, the staff needs to be walking into critique with that word circled, highlighted, underlined, etc. I was not overly excited by clips I had seen of the show, but I did not let that cause me to expect anything less than a great performance from this Midwest power house. Just as some movies have to been seen in their entirety without interruption to be fully appreciated, or as getting your girlfriend to like football is done easiest by bringing her to a live game (yes, the weather should be perfect, seats perfect, food and beverage perfect, you CAN NOT act like you do when you are at a game with buddies, and yes, you do have to answer each and every one of her questions with patience and a smile, etc.)(no offense to the wonderful ladies that like, understand, and appreciate football), the 2008 Phantom Regiment must been seen in its entirety without interruption, and live if at all possible, to be fully appreciated. The drill is a little clunky here and there, but over all very good. At times, some running seemingly for running's sake. Guard staging is varied and excellent. Horn and batterie placement is almost always flawless. Big GE moments are well coordinated and I imagine they have a few more up their sleeves come August. Horns are loud and JD Shaw has outdone his difficult task of not doing too much of the 81 and 82 music, yet presenting enough to hook those of us that were around and remember those great performances (PR 1981 finals by the way is one of those rare moments in drum corps where everything was clicking and somehow this magical sense of awe and unexplainable electricity takes over a corps performance. I would highly recommend the recording. You can hear famed drill writer John Brazale yelling at the corps to "Go with it, Go with it". He was of course referring to the magical, sometimes once in a life time performance that few ever experience of witness more than once or twice in a life time.) This visceral story telling is Loud, exciting, beautiful, and 100% Phantom. The guard plays their role quite well. I do wonder how all the theatrics will be scored against guards that do more standard equipment work. Many of us know the theatrics are equally demanding in many similar and differing ways. Drum line will bid for the top spot again. I feel the ending needs more ummmph and pizzaz. No, I do not know what that would be. Crowd will continue to eat this one up. It is scary to think they will be louder in a few weeks.
SCV: Hate to start off with a negative comment, but we were all anticipating the new uniform greatly as SVC's turn to perform arrived. As they came onto the field, I immediately though that the SCV Cadets uniform was much better. Some felt it was not much different from past uniforms. I think it is very different and though I do not overtly dislike it, I would call it my lest favorite uniform of any since the 70s. I am sensitive to the fact that they are new and probably need to be fitted more, none the less, I am disappointed. The legacy of Steve Brubaker as the legendary drill writer of Cavies previous to and during their rise to the top, has been rivaled by only few writers since. Mike Gaines(sp?) of course, and now Pete Weber (yes, there are others, speaking more of the Brubaker-esque writers). What a beautiful, and unique visual package SCV has for their 2008 production. Though similar to Brubaker, Pete Weber has a style of his own. The musical arrangements are very solid. The marriage of the percussion and brass writing is top spot stuff. The percussion are VERY strong and should be in the top tier. Seems we could have four or five lines so close come finals week that they score within tenths of each other. The guard is one of if not my favorite aspect of this show. Back to the comments in my introduction, this color guard provides all the standard effects with knowhow and precision, but always with a twist. All the guard phrases between big moments are innovative and spectacularly musical. Cool body stuff! The beginning was hot and new, can not wait to see it again. Guard needs to finish the show however. With that being said, time to finish the whole show with more than is there now. Though noticeably more dirty than BD or PR, the first two thirds of the show is a tour-de-force. Closing seems like more of an after thought. Smart, creative, talented people at SCV. I am sure they are busy fixing this problem. Horn line was loud and confident most of the time, but they seem much behind PR and BD in regards to details of articulation, tuning, balance, blend, tone production. I am eager to see what become of this show.
BD: I have never seen a drum corps more confident in early July in my life. Wow. What ever pill is causing this surge of energy and control that comes leaping up into the stands, bottle it and sell it to anyone in the performing arts for as high an asking price as you want. Performing like champions, all aspects of this drum corps are on fire and still have cleaning to do that will only further elevate the quality and entertainment value of this show. Also extremely loud, the horn line is as good as any BD has offered. The guard and drum line equally good. It is difficult to compare them to PR in that the styles are so different. To those that claim all corps have morphed into a cookie cutter version of The Cavaliers (or any said drum corps), I do not agree, and never have. I would have BD up for sheer confidence and showmanship, with PR being cleaner and offering more variety visually, and certainly musically. Though the same BD from past years in many good ways, what is noticeably different is that the drill, particularly the horn and drum drill, serves more than what has been expected the past ten years or so. The musician's drill has movement effect that offers something usually done better by other top groups. The staging and guard coordination has always been good, we just do not know BD for "the drill moves". This is a welcomed and exciting addition for this year's production. What other groups that do offer the more memorable drill have worked through seems to be a small area of needed growth for BDs show; some visual transitions are still in need of some tweaking. I am of course speaking of a level of refinement that most corps never reach. Great performance. Though they make it look easy, I do recognize the difficulty of living up to this level of expectation every year. Will challenge for the top spot again. Kudos.
Enjoyed the show very much. Drum corps are getting better across the board.
Enjoyed writing the review.
Best of luck and a safe summer to all corps.
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Though my explanation was more lengthy, DCImonkey is more to the point. Either the program coordinator is lost, there is not a program coordinator, or a lack of staff agreement has been made evident in this years production. MANY higher placing corps in 2008 wish they had this level of talent. Programing, Programing, Programing.
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I will do a full review tomorrow, but for now...
Though very talented and obviously hardworking, the members are being out done by the show at this point. Though some opinions of a very hard horn book may be somewhat true, the overall show construction is what is hurting the most.
Major rewrites could make a difference, but we will be in BLoomington before we know it and those corps that have little to change
and are relatively clean at this point will be at a BIG advantage. They will be working on perfection, musical maturity, performance, and showmanship while others are putting in their new _________.
There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding about some fundamental show construction elements:
Pacing (this is a big one)
Variety of effect
Coordination of all visual elements
Combining the tried and true with the new and innovative (keeping in mind that the innovative has to work or come darn close).
Judging Bias Against The Scouts?
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I am somewhat curious though about the statement "For every corps that may have been slighted some, there have been corps that have been overtly pushed some.". Overtly pushed by who and for what purpose? Are there specific examples that you are aware of?
I do not have an example that is provable. The statement is meant to simply state that judging "mistakes" or "wrong" ordering goes both ways, and if provable and diagram-able, we would probably see balance on both sides of the "truth". Hope that makes sense. Thanks for being so civil.
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