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all of the above would be true...in all my years though never heard one person say Im going to see Santa Clara because they are playing Blah Blah Blah.......maybe AFTER the 1st time they see a corps and what they have done to a piece of music, then maybe.....or as you say maybe run away or go get a hot dog.
imoI will admit that after planning NOT to attend any G7 shows, I ended up going to two this year mainly because Carolina Crown was playing Einstein on the Beach...
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So, to be fair, since your response here was directly posted in reaction to my sarcastic OMG about the CSO being 100 years behind, you have just stated that the reason the CSO is performing the works of 100 year-old works from Brahms and Verdi in 2013 is because they are in a financial hardship. Or, are you contending that the CSO is having financial hardships because the CSO is an organization that performs works that are 100 years behind?
I'm not saying anything other than it's probably not a good idea to hold up symphony orchestras as a model. I don't think their financial problems have anything to do with the music they play.
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OMG!!!! In September 2013 The Chicago Symphony is performing works of Brahms and Verdi!!!! The CSO is 100 years behind!!!!! OMG!!!!!
To be fair, I think many big orchestras are in tighter financial straits than DCI.
My problem with this thread is that no one has yet defined what it means to be "100 years behind".
Danielray appears to have based it on the year that the Blue Devils' music was written (though he didn't mention that part of BD's source material was a one-year old updated arrangement of that piece). But I would argue that Blue Devils' mix of a 100-year-old piece with two jazzy arrangements of that piece, blending together field battery and trapset, and a brass band with synth patches ranging from sampled guitar to dubstep-style bass, coupled with their frenetic hyperactive visual design is in fact a perfect representation of today's postmodern Internet-driven mashup/remix/meme-based culture.
Here's some other recent takes from the past couple of years, apparently also 100 years behind:
Dubstep remix (clever):
Electronic remix (low-key but impressive):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQb4qHOVjnM
8-bit mix (annoying, but funny):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEs7mhBZIDo
John Cage inspired, computer-generated infinite never-repeating (sound starts at 0:15 and thankfully only lasts 45 seconds):
Remix via Fantasia:
As remixed by Metropolis Ensemble:
The Bad Plus live performance (awwwesome):
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And we just can't say..."Great article Lee! Loved what yo had to say!" No, we have to rub salt into a wound.
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And so many music teachers today say matched grip is more "natural" than traditional. Ha! BS.
Ha, and I assumed someone helped the kid grip it "correctly".
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Yesterday afternoon I was driving and there was a radio broadcast from Tanglewood of Beethoven's Ninth performed by the BSO which made me think it would be great to have a show based on this work, and not just the 4th movement. My choice would be Phantom even though Glassmen did have a great Beethoven themed show. Phantom has the ability to tackle an entire symphony. In 1977 Phantom performed New World Symphony and revisited it again in ne of there most enduring shows in 1989. In 1977 and 1978 they closed with Beethoven's 9th. I'd love to see them base a show on the entire symphony as they did with New World. If Beethoven's 9th is too ominous, Saint Sean's Symphony #3 has more than just a great final movement.
I'd love to see a show based on a single symphony. For Beethoven, I'd go with the Sixth, because it's familiar but not as familiar as the Ninth, and because it's shorter you could have a better chance of fitting in all of the themes.
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Considering that Academy did "Left of Spring" last year and this apparently wasn't an issue, I'm guessing it was relatively unexpected for this season.
Good point. Possibly it was something else.
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But, if you actually had a wormhole, why not stick just your worm through the hole so you could "go" even during a show?
I think you're thinking of a different kind of .....hole.
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According to the DCI preorder site.
For Boston it was 25 seconds of poetry.
Academy lost 8 seconds of prerecorded music.
Depending on if you get more than the top 12, Genesis also lost 30 seconds of prerecorded sound clips.
Do we have any idea if this is the final list or is it just what they have figured out so far? Specifically, did Crown get all the appropriate rights to use not just Philip Glass's music but the poetry of Christopher Knowles and Samuel M Johnson?
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What in the world in BD's show necessitates cutting? They didn't use any voice samples this year, did they? The wolf howl? Weird.
I would assume "Rite of Spring" itself. According to US copyright law, Rite of Spring is public domain because it was published before 1923. However, in Europe, it's still under copyright. Until 2056 it would seem (85 years after Stravinsky's death) if I'm understanding the rules correctly. So BD would need to get the appropriate permissions to arrange, record, and sync the music from whoever owns them at present in order to sell the product in countries that respect European copyright laws.
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The primarily pacifist Jews of Eastern Europe had few defensive rifles or firearms at all. So 6 million of them were rushed into cattle cars to be later murdered by their armed opponents. Thus, in my view a well armed " military preparedness " is more valuable toward maintaining peace, stability, defense, and order, than military unpreparedness and disarmament.
This is probably the most naive thing I've ever read about this topic. Please, stop.
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I liked the VANguard set and what it flowed into.
Well, someone just put me to shame. Nice work, Rick!
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Finally got around to watching some of the videos danielray is posting. Talk about "Modern" in all the worst senses of the word. If drum corps goes down that failed road (which certain shows have, most definitely) we can kiss it goodbye.
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Modern is relative...
Went to the MOMA in NYC 2 weeks ago.
Simon and Garfunkel would be among the most recent art featured...
if they had anything exhibited there...
Plus everything since Zeppelin is crap anyway...
Well, "Modern" has a specific and temporal meaning in art history, starting in the early 20th century, and so the vast majority of what MOMA exhibits, while considered "Modern", is in fact pretty old by now.
If anything drum corps is a postmodern activity. The rules are vague about what is "good" and "bad", the styles of music and movement can vary tremendously mixing new ideas with old ones with no real distinction between contemporary and classic, show design is often self-referential to the extreme, representationalism and abstraction are both embraced side by side often within the same show, and the activity itself is a pastiche of a wide variety of other kinds of arts from dance to music to fashion. All of which makes any idea that the activity is behind other art forms the more ridiculous.
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More often than not you have something worthwhile to say in posts you start. This is not one of those. You do not make an argument of any kind. All you have done here is throw out a couple of comments whose connection to drum corps as an "art form" is tenuous at best.
Yep, it's called "trolling".
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Blue Devils music was exactly 100 years old.
Actually, Blue Devils used a 100-year-old piece along with a one-year old arrangement of that piece, and a 42 year old take on the piece.
Carolina Crown was doing stuff from the 70's.
That was half of the material. The rest was 21st century brass band music.
I do find it a bit strange when people are complaining about how out there drum corps is becoming. In reality, the activity is nearly 100 years behind other arts.
This is really a ridiculous statement to make without providing any actual argument. Drum corps is inherently a derivative art form, and it operates in a vastly different context than typical forms of "art" that aren't competitive and cooperative activities, but the age of the source material has zero bearing on where the activity is. The activity has been evolving year after year. Drum corps in the 20s or the 70s are as far away from drum corps today as film of those eras is from film today.
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One other Blue Devils move that I absolutely loved was when they made the parallelogram block, marched it backfield, then whip-turned left to bring it towards the lower-left corner of the field, then pushed forward to rock the jazz hit. I will see if I can make a gif.
Yeah, that was very effective and really worked with the music, more so than the other big visual moves.
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Fiedler told me in the Semifinals lot in 2012 that if Crown didn't win soon someone would slip in and take their chance. Made me really nervous but it worked out for crown. Also heade some comments implying open class is at the end of its life. Wish I had gotten some more insight into that comment.
Well, that spring, prior to the season, there was a proposal that would have merged all the corps into a single class. It was voted down. Not sure what the margin was. Perhaps that was what he was alluding to.
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Pretty sure this is the Devils most traditional drill of the year (which already featured a lot more traditional drill than the last few years):
(From Allentown, sorry for the poor quality/angle.)
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Crown has another neat drill move with the smallest bass drum orbiting one of the rolling bass drums. It's when she is playing the gock block. I think the drill is supposed to be representing an atom with an orbiting electron.
This is the best clip I could get of it, just one rotation. The camera moves so much other times and the sequence is pretty long. The bass drum circles the rolling bass four or five times and then follows it downfield and rotates once more before joining the battery again.
I never saw this myself, so thanks for mentioning it!
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2009 was just pure magic in so many ways. The drill, as George mentioned, is amazing. The music is amazing. The performance was amazing. That is one year that I can understand why BD scored so high, although I felt BD's show was relatively sterile compared to Crown's.
In 2012, I thought Crown had the superior show and performance over BD (although I actually enjoyed BD's 2012 show more than their 2009 show). Compared to 2013, I thought 2012 had better drill and more challenge. But I do believe Crown's 2013 brassline was their best ever, and possibly the best Bb brassline ever.
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OT: Sour Notes at University of Illinois
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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What about it? There are tons of pathetic aspects.
I found this bit curious: "The [Nashville] school district purchased four clarinets from the 1950s for about $5,500 each, police said."
What I wanna know is was so great about those clarinets? And why would a public school district need fancy antique clarinets? Maybe that's a great price for a bass clarinet or something?