And in first place~
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Drum corps isn't very unique at all. In fact, drum corps and marching band are almost the same thing.
The woodwind debate simply comes down to personal preference and really not a lot beyond that. People fighting for change and people fighting against it are two sides of the same coin. The motives behind their opinions are often the same: I want things to be the way I like.
We should switch that argument to what would be the best for DCI, and I don't think remaining a niche activity is the way to go. Opening it up to a wider audience is usually a great way to gain more customers. This is the principle behind free trade. Reduce barriers to reach more customers.
But...drum corps and marching band should not be almost the same thing. That is precisely one of the many reasons that things are messed up.
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How I wish they would let drum corps be drum corps and bands be bands. And they wonder why there has been a decline in interest. Seems to me there are a lot of reasons for it. That might be a good thread for someone to start but maybe there already were a zillion threads on "What would you do to re-kindle the fire?". Besides putting a few corps on the field who would get people up from their seats and giving them a loud ovation, of course. Something tells me we don't need to worry about woodwinds, though.
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Half of a Red Violin was tried in 2009. It didn't work out very well.
Maybe had they used both halves it might have worked better.
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Is anyone else having issues with VOD playback on FanNetwork? I have jerky video but audio is fine. Looks like Flash Player is shooting my CPU to 100% on the site. I do not have this issue with Flash on YouTube or Vevo. Any suggestions as to what my problem may be?
Safe to say that I should not spend $65 on it?
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Is it possible that not enough people care about it anymore BECAUSE of the changes he's pushed? Drum corps relies on fan support and the largest segment of the fan base are either long time fans or corps alumni. IMO, DCI and the changes made by George Hopkins have been the largest single factor in the alienation/disenfranchisement of the diehard fanbase. Self-fulfilling prophecy, IYAM.
Well said. Funny how so many times I think of all the changes DCI has made and GH has wanted, that I think to myself "What's next, violins?". And they wonder why fan support is not what it used to be.
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I still have "really old drum corps" records. The old 33 1/3 kind. Even they were better back then as you could hear them announce the corps at both the beginning and end of the show. You could sometimes hear fans yell as well. Such as "Go get 'em Ralph". Yes, I know the quality of recordings is much better now.
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It's similar to people watching a sports event at a bar and cheer, yell and scream. Human nature, I think.
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I just now saw this thread and I found it ironic how I was just thinking this morning how much I miss corps trooping the stands and full retreats. DCI tossed them both aside years ago.
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Ill take this time to say Good luck to my cousin who is marching her rookie season with the Boston Crusaders in guard. Good luck Melissa love you! Hope you have a great time and I wish you good health.
Lucky me. If all goes well, I will see Melissa in person at the Baldwin (Pittsburgh), PA show on August 5
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Just taking a moment to wish all of the corps in 2012 best of luck and have a bunch of fun.
Safe and healthy travels to the entire Drum Corps community
Very nice thread, TF. We sure do wish everyone the best of luck, lots of fun, safe and healthy travels
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I didn't realize we skipped 90 years lol...
No worries Tekk, the corps didn't change much.
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Cute!!
But seriously, I know "We Need a Little Christmas" is one of their parade songs. The arrangement is very much a parade march sort of feel, almost Souza-ish at times. Are they doing Hark as well?
The Cadets spent three days at a school near here I live. On the second night they did a show for the community, which was really a final run through in uniform. As an encore they played "Hark the Herald Angels". There were two Cadets food volunteers sitting near me and one of them told me as they were playing "Hark" that they would be playing "Hark" in parades. I also heard "We Need a Little Christmas" which was incredible. . Good to know they will be playing it in parades. Thanks so much for letting us know.
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I understand that they will be playing "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" in parades. I can visualize the eyebrows raising and puzzled looks on faces from the unknowing public at say a Fourth of July parade. Ethel says to Fred, " oh dear, I thought this was the Fourth of July and that 'band' is playing Christmas carols".
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THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Think of all the bah humbug types as well.
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I think synth's point was that Do You Hear is the piece
Very possible. Thank you. The closer is wild and furious.
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OR, they really just don't like the show. It can happen, you know...
Of course I know it can happen. I'm just suggesting that it is a crowd pleasing show. And yes, I know not everyone will be pleased.
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How will George arrange for SNOW at Lucas field???????
George has contacts at the North Pole.
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Do you hear what I hear is the ballad, if I'm not mistaken
Yes,"Do You Hear What I Hear" is the ballad.
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Great insight.
What I do love about the Cadet's show is that we will have some "different" Christmas music for the Holidays this year
Thank you so much. "Different" Christmas music for the holidays for sure. Something to march around the Christmas tree to
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We were fortunate enough to have the Cadets at a local high school, Mount Pleasant PA, from Monday through last night. Thanks to the band director and cooperation of the Mount Pleasant school board. During those three days, I pretty much gave up the daily routines and spent hours there. I just have to mention how great it was to have them here. I met some outstanding volunteers, staff people and corps members. It was interesting to see how they do things and how hard everyone works. It's always nice to find congenial people who don't mind sharing some tidbits about the corps. I did not want to bother very many so i just pretty much looked, listened and lurked.
As for their show, 12.25, it is simply fantastic. "Do You Hear What I Hear", is one for the ages. It is just beautiful. One of those "you can hear a pin drop" moments. I could go on and on about it but I don't want to be reprimanded by some of the arrogant types in here, which is why I don't visit much. But I just had to toss this out there to let people know about the Cadets three days here. It was fantastic. They made my summer and summer isn't even officially hear yet. Fa la la la la.....
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I quite like the music esp. the opener which is very intense... may even of had that as the closer.
The opener is intense for sure and so is "Carol of the Bells". As for the closer, I say it will be another Cadets classic. The guard is off to the far left. The hornline is backfield from the far right. Horns are maybe three or four yards apart facing to the left towards the guard. The hornline stands still for a little while during"Do You Hear What I Hear" and it is one of those moments where I think you will be able to hear a pin drop in stadiums. It is just beautiful.
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Thank you for all the information. I pretty much decided to go for it and get the $65 Field Pass. There's only one way to find out how good it is.
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And if the reindeer are tired, he can fly away on the Cascades 2005 airplane. If the house needs some work, they can always use material from Crown's "Industry" show!
Maybe Hop added it to his Christmas list. Feliz Navidad
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George Hopkins
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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As a lurker, I agree 100%. CT nailed it by suggesting "in your faces hornlines, percussion, brilliantly designed drills....". I doubt that ever happens, though. Seems to me they are more interested in educating marching members and imitating marching bands. Used to be the other way around. Any wonder why some marching band members were bored with all the corps except CC at the Louisville show? Wake me up when we get back to "in your face " shows and I will be more interested then.
And now back to see what the Hop haters are posting.....