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43 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:
Great first show tonight! Excited to see this thing start to morph and take shape.
It will bloom!
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On 8/7/2022 at 1:31 PM, 3PoC said:
Bluecoats take silver and the Sanford!
Not so delusional after all!!!
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Just now, Vidal28Rdg said:
Whoever called Bloo storming out in percussion a few weeks back and said they have what it takes to steal that caption from either Cali corps, PROPS TO YOU!!
I was one of them! I've thought all along they could take it.
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To quote Ralph Waldo Emerson “Its the not the Destination, It's the journey.” BD, Bloo, BAC, SCV, Cadets, etc... all have shows about a journey - an arc that draws you into and through an experience that leads to new places or understandings. Not that all shows need an explicit narrative journey to be engaging, but RHRN seems all destination and we don't get the satisfaction of getting drawn into any particularly special RHRN moment (ala BK 2014 That One Second) over the course of the show. I think this has made it hard for Crown to layer and deepen the show as the season progressed. They do perform the heck out of it though!
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Bluecoats take silver and the Sanford!
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Looking at the combined recap, it's interesting that Bluecoats percussion took an overall 1 in content.
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11 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
Yes.
Bloo's drumline scoring higher in content than BAC tonight? I'm a little confused by this, but I'm willing to look closer next time to see what I'm missing.
Mainly, front ensemble integration - tympani book is amazing, mallet line has some super-exposed features requiring impeccable technique, keytar I would guess is part of the front ensemble (I think?). I also think the battery book, while not as dense as BAC, has more nuanced dynamics in their phrases and polyrhythmic layers between different voices, as well as some difficult environmental timing demand. I would also guess (not certain) that they have more body movement vocabulary while playing. BAC content is crazy difficult as well though, especially with the density and intensity of the battery, and some judges have a preference for that kind of content.
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3 years HS (tri-toms/snare/snare)
3 years DCI (Front Ensemble/Snare/Snare)
4 years college (Snare) National drumline champs 1 year
At least 40 percussion books written for HS bands and 10 or so full band arrangements (including a completely original wind/perc book)
5 years judging perc for HS contests (+ some occasional extra shows)
At least 15 years directing various HS marching percussion programs- 1
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1 minute ago, saxfreq1128 said:
I had to step away for a second — was that a taste of “Message in a Bottle” I heard???
Yeah, the "Sending out an SOS" line.
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4 hours ago, TenHut said:
With due respect, you are not under the same pressure as you are playing your instrument alone and not trying to execute your charts with others. Kind of like if 1 solo snare drummer claimed he was under the same pressure as a 9 Man snare line. No, you aren't.
SCV 15 keyboardist might disagree.
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6 hours ago, keystone3ply said:
Schedule has posted:
https://www.dci.org/events/2022-dci-southeastern-championship
Hmm... Great draw for BAC, but are Cadets, BK, Crossmen, Colts, Troopers not playing this show?
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38 minutes ago, 3PoC said:
Congratulations Boston! What a great milestone for the organization!
I marched Pride of Cincinnati 81-83 (hence my handle 3PoC) and remember the Crusaders as one of the groups we'd aim for but never quite beat. Great to see how far they've come!
Amazingly, 4 corps from our humble tier in those days are currently in the 2022 top 12!
DCI Prelims 1982 - Montreal24 Colts 67.20 25 Seattle Imperials 66.05 26 Boston Crusaders 65.30 27 Avant Guard 65.15 28 Kingsmen 64.15 29 Pride of Cincinnati 63.70 30 Saginaires 63.25 31 Rivermen 62.10 32 Guardsmen 57.75 33 Bluecoats 56.25 34 Glassmen 55.50 35 Imperial Guard 54.35 36 Southwind 53.80 37 Blue Stars 53.10
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Congratulations Boston! What a great milestone for the organization!
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5 minutes ago, Orwellian Wiress said:
Would have never guessed. How'd that name come about?
Look here:
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5 minutes ago, Orwellian Wiress said:
Sorry to sound like a loser and a newbie, but what's JONZ?
Vanguard percussion. Don't feel bad for not knowing all the arcane traditions of this activity, there's lots more!
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Another interesting tidbit - Crown topped Bloo by .3 in brass and Bloo took them in perc by .3, but the MA judges gave a huge spread to Crown. I'd be interested in knowing what their comments were.
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Interesting that Bloo perc topped BAC in content tonight. I think could that bode well for them, especially considering center snare was out.
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I'd love to see this front ensemble do some gamelan music.
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Really dig that Ethiopian music section in the middle of Xmen show! I need to look up the source material.
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I love it because it brings back the fun jamming vibe and big visuals of the earlier parts of the show. I think there may be some tweaks needed to get the tag timing dialed in for the optimal audience response.
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Also this: https://www.dci.org/scores/head-to-head - select the corps and it will output a graph for the ones you select.
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SCV really got a nice bonus from having no brass judge and getting another MA (which includes perc) score in the caption. Compared to Tuesday, brass caption accounted for a .75 gain on Crown, .5 gain on BAC, and .55 on Bloo.
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Interesting that Bloo beat these groups in GE 2 and trailed in GE 1 on Tuesday, tonight it was reversed. Don't know what that says... they definitely need to tighten up the music performance, both panels (tonight and Tuesday) are sending that message clearly.
Hotlanta On My Mind - July 29, 2023
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Some of the critiques of the Bluecoats show have gotten pretty lazy imo and so I'll come out of lurk mode to give a response. It's fine to not care for a show for any number of reasons - I have my own issues with certain bits found in many shows but I still find enjoyment from those shows because there is still good performing of drum corps taking place even in the most cheesy, choppily arranged, retreaded concept shows.
"Bluecoats have done too many years of 60's shows" - Unless the idea of flowers and love is enough to make something "60s", I would guess that this show probably has the most modern music on the field this summer (apart from the original poem):
"The Garden of Love" the poem by the Romantic poet William Blake - 1794
The Woods - Chick Corea - 1977
Garden of Love - JacobTV - 2007
Bump - Anna Meredith - 2019
Finding and Believing - Pat Metheny - 2009
____45____ - Bon Iver - 2006
So Many Layers of Color Become A Deep Purple Heart [To Steve Reich] - Edda Magnason - 2022
"Too much narration" - The Bluecoats music team have been influenced over the past decade by the musical ideas of the pioneering and influential minimalist composer Steve Reich who is known for his shifting and "phasing" layers of rhythm and sound. He also pioneered the idea of what he called "speech-melody" which integrates into the composition as an element of the musical design, not as a separate layer of narration where the music is an underscore. Here is an excerpt from Musical Persona: The Use of Human Speech in the Music of Steve Reich by Rachel E. Weiss, West Virginia University: https://researchrepository.wvu.edu/etd/3679/
"From his earliest works to his most recent ones, Steve Reich has found ways to incorporate human speech into his music. The natural melodic qualities of the human voice, which he called "speech-melody," interested him from the beginning of his musical career. In his early tape pieces, Reich manipulated recordings of human voices in order to create varied melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic patterns. Later, he used such recordings for both their melodic content and subject matter in Different Trains (1988), The Cave (1993), City Life (1995), Three Tales (2002), and WTC 9/11 (2011).;Using human speech as a foundation, Reich composed works that are both musically complex and rich in meaning. Most of his speech-melody pieces focus on events of sociopolitical and historical relevance, such as the Holocaust, the atomic bomb tests at Bikini Atoll, or the bombing of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001."
I'm not usually a fan of narration and voice-overs myself as it often is too cheesy or literal for my tastes, but I hear the Garden of Love voice integration into the sound design as part of the music (I also think Bloo's 2015's Mr Maps was brilliant voice/music integration - which BD echoes this year with the French voice-over/battery segment which I also enjoy). Doesn't mean you have to like it, but maybe if you try listening to it as it was intended to be used, it might make it more enjoyable. After all, it's still some great drum corps being performed.