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Posts posted by lumbargleeful
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Oh man if Phantom beats Cavies tonight, I'll lose it.
While the Cavies sound 100x better, they have some really serious design issues, and (I can't believe I'm about to say this) have even larger visual design/performance issues.
It is like everything flipped in the off-season for them.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Regiment tag them.
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But why are you still slumming it with us here, when every DCI corps director is eagerly awaiting your resume?
The assumption being that this isn't being posted from a sleeping bag in an air conditioned classroom (staff sleeping area) right now?
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I'll make sure they get that memo. I don't think this has ever occurred to them, thanks.
They obviously haven't.
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The staff, now in its third year with the corps, has been demanding yet deliberate, building up the line's capabilities from year to year. They's got some first-rate teachers in front of those kids. Anyone with ears, even non-musically-trained ears, can hear the progression in capability from 2013 to 2015.
It only counts on the move.
Basically, almost everyone sounds great in the lot. If the lot is all that mattered, Regiment would have 3x as many brass trophies.
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not worth the discussion this time around.
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I like Vienna Teng's Hymn of Axciom 10X better than Bluecoats last year, but I still thought they sold it very well.
I'm meaning more the same group, in the same idiom.
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How about that Crown marching technique. lol
That's the part that reminds me of purgatory.
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Kinda hard to compare this version of the Organ Symphony to Phantom's 1990 version, imho. That's THE definitive drumcorps version....
That's the reality of drum corp remakes. They have to be far better than the originals to sell.
Unfortunately that's not the case for any of the regiment remake.
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Straw man argument.
I guess this might be true for some, but for me, I own an open innovation engineering company (mostly nanotech and biomedical work). I post a bit on DCP during the season because it's entertaining to take a break here and there.
I guess that makes me a pseudo intellectual.
The subject should be why DCI is doing what they're doing, and whether or not the shows are better for it.
Ad hominem or straw man attacks are just as high school as a lot of the show design.
I emboldened the most important part of that response.
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Is there anything more pseudo-intellectual than arguing over what is pseudo-intellectualism?
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No it didn't. This is the internet. People go on the internet to complain. Have you been on facebook lately?
My facebook is people largely posting about how awesome their children are, posting videos of cats, and ridiculous news articles that are obviously inaccurate.
Maybe you need more positive friends.
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There is a segment of drum corps alumni, and many of you will know (or are) that segment I'm talking about.
They make jack ##### out of themselves in college band.
They fail out of music ed because, "This is ridiculous stuff and they [professors] don't know what they are doing."
They get fired from marching band tech jobs for treating students like dirt.
They say, "well, at drum corps we did this..." incessantly.
Those people grow up and a lot of them jump into DCP. Because SO MUCH of their frail identity is based in their drum corps experiences, they think changing that activity in the slightest will make them more irrelevant. Or change the way that (they falsely perceive) people view them.
Those people freak out over the changes in the activity. They claim that because the activity is changing people are leaving. In reality, far more people are driven away from drum corps and drum corps shows by interactions with those type of people, than they are concert french horns.
Then, because people avoid those alumtards, the alumtards point and say, "SEE EVERYONE IS LEAVING THE ACTIVITY BECAUSE YOU RUINED IT!" Even though, they are largely to blame for the activity's demise, because they refuse to allow it to change, and act like jack ##### to everyone.
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Also, they need to learn to release with a breath. Articulated releases are disgusting. Not sure if it is intentional, or just kids missing the boat.
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It is all kind of for naught, if they look like horses with broken legs when they march. (which they do)
Some good sounds from Troopers-- nicely done.
I can't watch that without laughing, though. It's funny watching a staff member get too emotional during warn up.Booze and overhyping.
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Perfect example. PR's income typically runs about 300k/yr above Madison's.
Terrible example. PR had 580k in outstanding debts from ONE LENDER, at one point. Their running debts in the early 2000's were probably closer to 2mil.
Just because they have bettered their own situation doesn't make their financial climate any better than Madison's it just means they are making better decisions.
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You've gotta be kidding me. Personally, I don't really give a sh$t about the rule change. You can barely see the facial hair from the stands anyway.
It was rather ridiculous, we definitely agree.
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CA?
Chris Alexander and his staff. Good people doing good things.
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Yes what?
The rule is going bye bye. That said, those that do keep facial hair, absolutely get destroyed and hunted down by Cadets alumni on facebook. One, so much as to send threatening facebook messages to that person last year.
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I'm sorry, but NONE of this is true. The truth is that they are putting out the best drum corps they can without going into debt. It's as simple as that.
There is 0.00% chance the financial climate at Madison is worse than that of Phantom Regiment. They've made some interesting (albeit poor decisions) of late, but those decisions were not monetary.
You can clearly make wise decisions in a lessor financial climate and be more productive than Madison.
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I think it looks cool. Them and Cavies look really unique in terms of visual design. Still convinced you're like never happy lol
It is unique, that's for sure. And this isn't a commentary on the technique, which CA and company are INCREDIBLE at teaching.
This really is a visual design issue. The guard likes it, because they get to spin in space. The horn guys like it because it is easier to blend an ensemble when they spend so much time almost shoulder to shoulder. The percussion people like it because of vertical timing in the ensemble.
The problem is, it doesn't really fit with what is going on in the activity. Why don't they get destroyed for having so much less integration than people in their neighborhood? Where is the reward for playing in difficult playing/timing environments? Where is consistent integration of the elements of the ensemble, simultaneously? Where are the cries that it looks dirty (because it does!) because intervals that small are hard to clean, regardless of how good CA is?
I really think they have everything in place to contend, minus this one, key figure.
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Hell, since we're all about conspiracies on DCP, what's to say there isn't a certain west coast group throwing a couple hundies out there to make sure they see a full panel and get a competitive advantage, compounded over time, compared to the other groups in dci's non-west tour models.
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I really thought 2002 would be the only wake up call they needed.
For some reason the scouts have convinced themselves that antique, late 90s drum corps is "the madison way" and so they beat you over the head with it.
They went down that path for several years and got bumped out. Then they brought in the DVD crowd and went straight back down that road, but hey, the alums loved it because it was "purely Madison! and purely magic!"
If you want to be competitive you have to play the game. OR be so good, for so long, that you dictate what the game is (bd). This is like watching a terrible remake of a B movie from the 50s. I already know how it will end, even if it is 12-15 years later than the last time this SAME thing happened.
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Alright panel. Time to stop giving PR the benefit of the doubt and lay out the PR/BK thing like it should be.
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Hey, is SCV still marching ridiculously segmented drill at ridiculously small intervals? Are they, at one point in the show, doing something that looks like 128 counts of follow the leader in a huge arc?
Call me when they stop making ridiculous visual design choices and the visual book matches the visual instruction (which is awesome), guard (which is awesome), music book (which is awesome), percussion (which is awesome), and brass (which is awesome).
I've never seen a group so blind to the fact that they are ONE staff change away from jumping into the next tier.
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Cadets and Innovation
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The ultimate irony being the person that's hated as trying to modernize the activity, having the most dated looking/sounding top 4 corps.
Interesting, to me, as well, that Gino is still getting rewarded for that type of ped. To say that is a crass, old school approach, would be an understatement.