Vidal28Rdg
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3 minutes ago, Cop said:
16.1 BAC
16.2 Crown
15.7 BC
GuardWell dang
*my dang was retracted* Boston and crown are flipped😂
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2 minutes ago, TheOneWhoKnows said:
Lets not forget two days ago Phantom Regiment posted a 76.6. In the grand scheme, they are not that far behind Boston tonight. There are more corps that could enter this mix.
Stranger things have happened, it definitely isn’t impossible for Phantom to rise in the rankings, but it’ll ultimately rest in them not tanking in particular subcaptions, they can’t have any 6ths, 7ths, etc. in any of them if they wanna crack top 4.
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3 minutes ago, TheOneWhoKnows said:
1 - Crown 80.15
2 - Bluecoats 79.85
3 - Boston 79.75
4 - Troopers 72.05
5 - Music City 66.25
I definitely anticipated scores to be close, didn’t say that in my original thoughts for the show because I thought DCI judges would be silly and say there’s a 2 pt. gap between 1st and 3rd. Definitely not the case! And I’m glad it’s reflected in the results
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2 minutes ago, Musicman1084 said:
I get it - because Marcus' show was The Missing Piece! 🙂
Pun very much not intended, but yeah!🫡😂
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3 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:
I personally don’t fault BD for being formulaic. If Bluecoats get lumped in that too so be it.
I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the two being accused of that have had their design teams in place the longest (God knows how long for BD and this is season 11 for Bluecoats). I’ll take it 🤪
I disagree on Bloo being formulaic musically, although you could definitely point out motifs and soundbytes from most Bloo years since 2014 and someone coming in blind could instantly identify Bloo when they’re triggered by a certain lick in their pit, in the brass. A *snap* “that’s most definitely Bloo right there” if you were to take any Bloo fan and have them listen for the first time this year’s show. I don’t think they’re formulaic in their presentation, as their musical variety lends them to sound very fresh year-to-year!
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50 minutes ago, DrumManTx said:
Heard them live twice that season. My favorite high school ensemble sound by a lot. It’s like a wam hug.
I’m partial to Hebron that year, but you can’t complain about Marcus’ offering that year, probably could’ve won the music caption at GN(they won in semis but dropped to 5th in finals) still puzzles me greatly😂
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11 minutes ago, crownisking said:
I’ll give them credit: Bloo can do weird better than anyone else. This brand does not work with most other corps. Like it’s weird, but they make it cool at the same time.
Their brand of weird is often enduring into the off-season, my recommendations is to listen to the source material, really makes you appreciate what they’re trying to pull off a lot more!
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41 minutes ago, crownisking said:
For those of you familiar with the BOA world, Crown’s solo French horn player was one of the featured French horn soloists for Marcus High School’s show in 2021.
Both of them killed it, so I’m not very surprised haha
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22 minutes ago, TigerBaritone19 said:
Not really sure what to expect from tonight, but if anything, I hope the scores are close and that Crown's subcaptions continue to be high. I would not be surprised with any placement from 1-3. It is just so hard to tell at this point. Have a great show tonight Crown!
I don’t anticipate anyone to dominate, 1’s across the board, that’s the only thing I can be certain of, I’m curious to see what the gaps are for each group though in between captions/subcaptions etc.
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1 hour ago, Sensioto said:
FWIW, I introduced my boyfriend to Drum Corps as this season began, albeit over livestreaming (Flo), and it was intriguing to hear his remarks over the first few shows - he is not particularly musically inclined, nor does he care about competitive details or how scores are determined. He was watching purely for entertainment value, and after Crown performed, he said, "Now that show made sense, and they sounded great - best of the night."
I think we often get caught up in details and it was refreshing to hear the wider perspective. This is a great product on the field for Crown - it's everything you expect from Crown and more and some new angles. I cannot wait to take him to NightBEAT with me and let him experience the face-melting first hand!
It’s a show that is great listening to on stream, and will translate seamlessly with the live, in-person experience I’m imagining. Gonna be going to a show in a few weeks!
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1 hour ago, KVG_DC said:
This BD in fourth thing happening is wild.
I"d like to think that the BD team has their usual cycle of show idea preparation and development. e.g. they already know next seasons theme and the reps they want and are workshopping 2025. These shows follow what critics. call "the formula" for the most part incorporating and tweaking the signature elements and stylistic things of BD's shows since at least 2014.
Then they have a little folder labeled something like "the nuclear option." And should BD not medal, this becomes the next show. It's filled with things that will turn the activity on its head in ways we can't imagine.
Some days, I wanna see what BD does when it pulls out the nuclear option.I’m honestly preferring they go nuclear and see what happens, nothing is guaranteed either way, my floor of them this year is 3rd, and I don’t think that’s out of the range of outcomes for this year if one is predicting any of Crown, Bloo or BAC to be in the mix to win. 1st or 2nd are more likely to happen but 3rd wouldn’t surprise me, personally.
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18 minutes ago, ThePlanets said:
Nah.
Hornline balance is completely different. BD is very soprano and top heavy while the Bluecoats love their tenor voices.
BD pit has their own sound too that is unique to them.
Bluecoats show is very programmatic while BDs is very abstract.
I would say Bluecoats are more of a modern Madison- writing shows bound to be a fan favorite that are very accessible while BD is BD.
I know this isn’t exactly what OP said, I mainly associate the corps with their unique sounds and identity musically, I also just couldn’t see what they were seeing in this case, especially hear what they were hearing. If this was BD performing this show, I would be thinking, “wow BD really sounds like Bloo this year” and not say they are similar. Same the other way around.
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19 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Yeah, I was sort of thinking "this seems about normal for phoenix these days"
Not that it makes it healthy for outdoor activity, particularly for folks traveling in who may not be acclimated fully. Although I suspect that's a lot of what Spring Training is anymore? You're learning the show but you're also acclimating your body to being out doors and active as much as you can?another reason to use the wbgt measurement you cited. On their weather.gov page, a little slide presentation on their site titled “who can benefit from the use of WBGT?” 4 groups were mentioned: Outdoor workers, People doing strenuous outdoor activities, Active People, Athletes and Marching Band👀😂
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5 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Yeah! I didn't find anything like this map last year when we got into this wrinkle of how WBGT is temp+humidity+sun = impact on the body. I remember the meteorologists saying marathons and OSHA uses it for safety determinations but it's a public communication nightmare because the numbers are 'lower' than the dry bulb temp or heat index, so people think "oh 90 that's not bad" when a WBGT of 90 is STOP YOUR OUTDOOR ACTIVITY YOU FOOLS THE EARTH IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO KILL YOU RIGHT NOW!
Very duly noted!! I’d love to look back at the readings from last year’s horrendous summer shows in the Great Plains all the way down to Texas experienced last year, I know those were very much in the “high” or “extreme” categories
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9 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Ooh!
https://digital.mdl.nws.noaa.gov/has a drop down for WBGT estimates.
its telling me 86 for Mesa.
And NWS has Kansas's State guidelines for football and outdoor practice
Looks they. could do it but...its high. Hopefully less by 8:30 as the sun will be setting.
The risk here is less the show itself I suspect and more the practice conditions during the day followed by the demand of the show.This is useful! My neck of the woods in DFW is right around 83-85, not much below their current conditions!
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6 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
Yeah that's always been my armchair interest take on it as well. But we were getting a fascinating clinic on WBT measures for measuring human habitability from the meteorologists last year that piqued my interest. There was something about it being more accurate than the heat indexing as a means of putting humidity into the equation. As it had a way of considering the angle and intensity of the sun.
It made intuitive sense to me as when I travel to Africa I'm closer to the equator and the angle of the sun is different. I can burn stupid easy there in temp/humidity conditions I don't typically burn in back here in the US.My question would be mainly, how much are the sun’s effects on higher latitudes amplified during the summer compared to the year-round similar exposure and angle of sun that the equatorial regions get? One should definitely be careful in too much sun exposure anywhere. 100, 105, 110+ combined with high humidity, etc. is no joke anywhere and will make the body react similarly anywhere those conditions are at, imo. But of course, I don’t know all of the details regarding the matter👀
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11 minutes ago, KVG_DC said:
They did a standstill for heat somewhere last year I remember.
Also I remember all the discussion about "what is the wet bulb level" rather than just temp or even heat index/"feels like" as a better measure for what is safe for outdoor activity and how often hydration breaks should be given, etc.
I'll leave it to the meteorologists to explain that though as it took me some time to sort of grasp on to what that is exactly and whether you could find it/calculate it easily for a location given what we get in weather information now.Dew point, humidity levels, heat index can all be good indicators of safe levels and not. I’m not a meteorologist by any means, but from my constant revisiting of the topic with me being fascinated by the field as a kid, from my basic understanding, the higher the combined dew point/humidity, can both make the heat index skyrocket, add to the insufferable conditions of the heat and make the body’s cool down mechanisms(sweat, etc.) less effective.
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3 hours ago, skevinp said:
High today in Mesa 112 degrees.
Should be down to a frigid 107 by 8PM
Everyone wants to mention Texas tour when it comes to heat, but this can definitely happen elsewhere! Here’s hoping that doesn’t happen down here in the next few weeks!
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2 hours ago, MikeRapp said:
If you put BD uniforms on BCoats, I might swear it’s Blue Devils.
I think they’re more than distinct enough between each other to where I don’t see that personally, there’s plenty of “Bloo-isms” in this show to me at least.
I’ll expand on this some too, the pit writing, the influx of more retro, techno sounding electronics along with the hornline, the hornline itself and their performance is quite distinct from anything I’ve heard BD do, the rep that each corps decide to do. If we wanna talk about thematic or structural similarities to their shows, I also don’t think they’re that close to 1:1 to each other either, but that’s just my opinion.
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1 minute ago, saxfreq1128 said:
Welllllllllllllllllllll… I felt a little differently about Crown last season, I’ll admit …
I don’t have set predictions this year beyond:
— Not sold on BD in first (and they’re my favorite corps).
— Not sold on Crown in 4th.
— Top 4 will be very tight. No runaway champion this year.
— PR in 5th feels right.
— Keep an eye on Mandarins.
— Give the Cavies time.
VERY FAIR💯💯💯
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1 minute ago, Triple Forte said:
Sadly, they are obligatory at this point like a lot of shows with recorded female vocal intros and a dozen other effects 🙁
I like trombones🤷♂️
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5 minutes ago, saxfreq1128 said:
I know someone’s got to be in 4th but CROWN?! Surprised that that’s such a common take. I guess we’ll see.
Frankly any of the top 4 in fourth place will feel unjust to me. Still — CROWN?! Idk about all that…
I uhhh….I don’t know at this point anymore, top 4 is bringing it. The more I watch Crown’s show, the more I dig it, very much true to what they are from a musical identity standpoint, their performance of their material will be hard to top, it’s a game of captions where no one knows where corps have an edge for sure until they meet🤷♂️
Even if they ultimately get 4th, it’ll be a **** good 4th-
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3 hours ago, Grandpa Joe said:
It's because so many corps are now formulaic in their approach at the top that they think Crown is going to fall into the same trend they had last year. People are refusing to see past their own window to recognize the fact that this show is an entirely different beast than it's 2022 counterpart.
100% agree, there are corps that I think are rehashing what they did last year fairly hard. Crown is definitely not one of them, they aren’t asking people to wave their arms in the air like they just don’t care this time around for starters😂 Not trying to diss them too hard, I’m just being frank with my response to their show. I had quite a lukewarm reaction to it, but hearing their show this year from a few days ago, still in June and they sound like they do already, I am incredibly excited to see it. I hear some of ‘12, some of ‘15, ‘16 in there, “the Lick” is in there for crying out loud!! If you don’t like this show after listening to it, I don’t think you can be helped, quite frankly!!(that goes for a lot of shows this year imo) I’m not even trying to be biased or say that crown’s running away with anything, but just enjoy it, y’all!! Hearing some comments about Phantom’s show too, I was not jazzed about what I heard at their Concert in the Park, but from what I’ve seen in their first competition run-throughs, people on here saying they exceed Crown’s energy level and being incredibly bombastic(channeling some of that SCV sound and energy helps with that), I was skeptical, but listening to both shows simply have me going, “wow that’s gonna be crazy to hear live, I am excited!!”. Only one corps was able to get me hyped like that going into their show last year, which was ironically Phantom, who I was disappointed in my first-look of them this year!! Many corps have elevated their performance level this year and I’m very excited to see some of them in just a few weeks!
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4 hours ago, DrumManTx said:
Front ensemble in the ballad is absolutely divine. Feel like that’s what really pushed them over the edge last year.
All of “The Garden” for them last year was incredibly cool and wholly on them to fill in the space between the pj’s uniform change, and of course the build up of the whole rest of that part of their show, that’s what probably pushed them over the top in percussion imo for me👀
Summer Music Games in Cincinnati 2023-07-05
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Haven’t watched a second of it so I am spared of your torment😂