kosovobill
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are you trying to pick a fight??? we all have our opinions. EVERYBOBODY'S opinion counts. if we want to whine from the stands who's to stop us........this is america. some day sir you will not be able to perform for health reasons or other reasons then you can join us on the 50 yard line. i can't believe you want to start an argument. why can't ypu leave well enough alone.
Don ,
You have failed to see my point; all I did was make a valid point about whats going on here; by continually trashing modern drum corps you invite criticism of "your" opinion. Others don't have to remain silent... this is indeed America, which I defended for 20 years...and I am entitled to MY opinion.
The kind of drum corps you marched in has its merits, and its drawbacks too. Todays drum corps is what these kids want to do- whats the point of trashing something your children or possibly grandchildren are doing?
Drum corps in one sense hasn't changed at all- a group of people get together, work hard, go through a series of challenges, and hopefully produce something the audience and the judges like. Its a true brotherhood, and I cherish every moment I've been involved.
I challenge you to tell me that has changed...If you don't understand this point, you obviously don't really understand what drum corps is all about.
Do I like everything the DCI corps today do? of course not, but I don't waste energy whining about stuff I cannot change, as life is way too short for that. I adapt and change, just like drum corps. Drum corps in all its forms is great; cant you just leave well enough alone?
Bill
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I just realized something...I haven't heard of anyone on this forum trashing "old style" drum corps. Now I could think of plenty of reasons why old style is not as good as modern style. I'm in my 40s, and have seen plenty of both, from my childhood to DCI to performing in DCA. How come it seems only the "old pharts" get to complain, and how is it only their opinion counts? Many of you can't even perform anymore, and instead whine from your seats in the stands.
Just my own 2 cents
Bill
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Spike TV's demographic is males 18-52 (or there abouts), G4 goes for the Video Geek market.
Cable is a narrow-casting medium with fairly well defined target demographics. ESPN2 is probably the ideal place for drum corps from that perspective.
Despite these demographics, I'm afraid that DCA would have to Pay ESPN 2 to do the broadcast, just like DCI has had to the last couple of years.
Bill
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It would never work. Nobody really "Marches" any more.....scurry from place to place, run their A55es off, or dance - Yes. March - No :P
Who decided that marching constitutes marking time to your knees? Even the Army and Marine don't do that. Seriously, I think that was an individual corps preference; even in the day, as long as everyone "marched" the same way, all was good, right?
As far as the old style of squad-derived formations, you may think that that is marching, but truthfully, even with the marktime, this style of "marching" is far easier than modern marching (within the DCA realm). I agree with you that marching in DCI is more like running, and truthfully is. Junior corps members have to be true athletes to perform those shows, not like "jonny", who came off the streets to march in a corps in the 50s or 60s.
Bill
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The Empire Statesmen's 3rd place finish in 2007 means that this corps has finished in the Top 4 for 20 consecutive years. Not since the rain-soaked Prelims at Allentown in 1987 has more than 3 corps beaten the Empire Statesmen. They completed 10 straight years in the 1990's never out of the Top 3, and in fact were named the DCA Corps of the 90's. Considering that the corps has existed for only 25 seasons (placing 11, 11, 10, 8, & 8 for the first five), their rise was rapid, and their staying power strong.
The placings in that time span tell the tale:
4th - four times (88, 89, 00, 01)
3rd - five times (95, 96, 99, 03, 07)
2nd - six times (90, 92, 93, 02, 05, 06)
1st - five times (91, 94, 97, 98, 04)
Congratulations to David Bruni and the Empire Statesmen for a great 2007 show, an impressive last 20 years, and moving forward to an equally impressive 25th anniversary next season.
Dale,
this is truly amazing, and is a testament to the strength of the program they have there in Rochester. Great job this year Empire, and may you find many more years of success!
Bill
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Bill,
" I can certainly assure you that I not only march backwards, forward and sideways with a high level of execution, I can also run at 180 bpm or so while cranking out high Cs. I strive to continue to improve my physical and overall performance levels so that I can be a productive member of my corps and to be an inspiration to all cancer survivors as well as old fat cranky baritone players everywhere."
Mods, please give me some flexibility as this person has insulted me twice on this thread
Gee Sara,
didnt you forget "parted the red sea, ended world hunger, and won the nobel prize" as well?
Thank you for showing everyone here how full of yourself you really are.
And the real shame is, it is under false pretenses...
1) the gentleman I used the phrase "sour grapes" on is not a member of the Renegades, hes a fan; nor did I insinuate that any member of the corps has whined about their scores.
2) given this, all you could do is accuse me of being biased against the Renegades, which is not true, otherwise why would I care about why they cannot do better. You also called me a name. How pathetic.
3) When I suggested that you were less than a spring chicken yourself all you could do is thump your chest some more and insult me again. Thanks for showing everyone how much class you have.
4) we are both in our forties whether you like it or not, Miss Julian.
"One should not bring a knife to a gunfight"- author unknown
Thanks for playing.
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No Bill, you're the one with the sour grapes and some obvious issues with the Renegades. But whatever makes you feel better about yourself old man.
I didn't hear any complaining about our scores in the "Renegade Room" Sunday night - instead there was proactive planning for the future to figure out ways to increase our exposure to the East Coast judges in future years.
Sara,
The Renegades score going down every year at finals has nothing to do with me, or any conspiracy theory anyone wants to think of. The simple fact is, the performance level goes down each year. Other than the fact that Renegades talk far more smoke than they are worth, I have nothing against the corps. It is regrettable that this corps, with probably more talent than the other DCA corps put together can barely make finals.....explain me that Sara.
As far as old, Im not much older than you...and I can march in more than one direction...
Bill
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Its called the "East Coast Penalty"...... B)
no, its called "sour grapes".
Bill
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This has got to be some kinda record. When was the last time the top 8 corps all broke a 90? Or 10th place was in the hi 80's?
8 corps in the 90s looks to be a record....however, getting into finals has been pretty hard for a while now....
2001- 6 corps in the 90s, and took an 84 to make finals
2002- 5 corps in the 90s, and took an 86...
2003- 7 corps in the 90s, took an 83...
2004- 7 corps in the 90s, took an 86....
2005.....DCA archive not working
2006- 7 corps in the 90s, took an 87...
fairly consistent though I think this year, overall quality of the corps is higher
Bill
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Random ramblings..........
These scores will probably come down a little bit tomorrow night........just a guess.
I am typically not a big Empire fan, but tonight........wow. I thought they were dynamite. Although, I couldn't tell you what the Guard was doing or wearing and that is probably not a good sign.
If I never hear Rhapsody In Blue again, it will be too soon.
Bush.......I think you need new uniforms.......I know it rained last year, but there seemed to be a lot of floods out there.
Loved the Renegades, CorpsVets, and Empire.
Look to the past for which corps will go up and down...there are patterns; for example, the Renegades score has gone down in finals every year since 2002 (2005 was inaccessible on DCA's site). Other corps have made it a habit of doing worse in finals as well... with a few exceptions, the top 5 corps scores usually go up...
Bill
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Brigs did not compete this weekend; should be marked as (7/21)
Bill
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Great job on the review! I feel from your comments you really tried to give a good unbiased account of what happened, hopefully nobody gives you any grief about it. <**>
Bill
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Friday Bump
GO Brigs!
Bill
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you may very well be right but this is hawthorne and if you've been around long enough you know that this is one corps that can pull it off even if they don't deserve it. e.g dca 1972. a. l. nationals 1966. must i go on???
Oh, I don't know.....I was with Brigs in 2003 when Hawthorne caught us and passed us; the Cabs won because they deserved it...... period.....and anything else is just sour grapes. Good luck to all corps in what promises to be an exciting season!
Bill
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Awesome job this weekend brigs!!!!
Work hard hornline, drumline, and hurt some feelings....come next contest! ^OO^
"The more you practice, the luckier you get" Pepe Notaro, circa 1978
Bill
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Great job in Rochester Brigs!!!!
Its great to see that the show is coming together ^OO^
Do it to it Brigs!
Bill
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Wow! Looking forward to seeing them in person! Good job Hurcs!
Bill
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After reading Lee Rudnicki’s blog I wonder if he will let Marino/Fusion supporters post their side of the story!!
As an attorney Lee should know that the accused should have their time to present their case!
Lee what are you so afraid of? Perhaps you have something to hide? If your telling the “truth” why wouldn’t you allow others to post on your blog.
Fusion Core has conducted themselves with class and dignity during this unfortunate situation. There are always two sides to the story!! If you so concerned with the “truth” let’s get all the dirt on the table and let the drum corps community know the entire “truth” not just your “version”.
Are you man enough!
Well, if one reads this blog, it is very long on drama and short on facts, this is little more than propaganda, generated by guess what, a lawyer, a person who doesn't want all the facts to be seen, only his side of the story. No surprises here.
Bill
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Fusion Core,
You guys look great, and I wish you all the luck in the world. Consider me a new fan who believes in what you're doing!
Bill
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Bill, you are once again putting invented words in my mouth.
I never stated that people should not have a choice where to march, and that has nothing to do with the situation involving the Skyliners that I am about to describe on Blog 7.
You can keep raising this point over and over and over as if I actually said it, but I would ask that before you do, maybe you could please give me the kind consideration of finding even one instance in the entire recorded history of the Internet where I suggested that.
I believe that people should have choice where to march, and my experience of having marched in three junior corps and two senior corps demonstrates that. As I will soon point out, this issue has absolutely nothing to do with freedom to march wherever you want.
Whoa, Lee, I'm actually agreeing with you on the point concerning ethics...
...but while we are at it, do you deny implicating Fusion Core with interfering or possibly plotting to destroy the Skyliners? Do you deny harassing the staff of Fusion Core on several occasions in several different threads concerning this issue? I'm not putting words in anyones mouth, you've implicated yourself. I never made the statement that you were attempting to make people march anywhere, that was you attempting to put words in my mouth.
You know, this drumcorps thing is a hobby, thats all it is... people march with a particular group, get whatever experience they were looking for, and hopefully enjoy themselves. If not, they go somewhere else, and sometimes they tell their friends, and they go too. Corps form and others fold, thats life, Lee.
From what I understand, while Sky might have gone to great lengths this year to get their act together, it was probably too little, too late. It is sad that they are not fielding a corps this year, and I'm very sorry for that. But for you to rave much of the winter about forces outside the corps ruining Sky's chances of rebuilding are nonsense. If anything, your grandstanding probably drove more folks away.
If you have real evidence of unethical conduct on behalf of any corps concerning this issue, why not post it here? Why the cloak and dagger if your evidence is so compelling? If not, lets let it go; its only a hobby.
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A code of ethics for the entire activity is in order--but its going to have to be one where people still have choice as to where and when they wish to participate. The moment we start dictating to people when and where they can march, and otherwise limit their options to participate, that will kill the activity. As far as activities on the part of any corps that is ethically questionable, I am in favor of any regulation within reason that is to the benefit of the activity.
Bill
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Well...there goes Bill's argument, shot down in flames....
Not really...what it implies is that the Skyliners have just as much right to exist or not exist; by the mere fact that only 7 of the original DCI top 13 corps still exist tells us that corps come and go, and that longevity in this activity is earned, not given out of "tradition". If the Skyliners had a program that people liked, regardless of size, they would come and participate. Nothing personal about Sky, just the simple facts.
Let me clear this up even more: this is not about whether I like the Skyliners or not, (or Fusion Core, for that matter) it is about the rights of people to march wherever they want, and to do so without the drama we have seen lately.
Bill
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Back in Lefty's day, before any of these atrocities would have
occurred, he would have melted down the horns and burned the uniforms
rather then allow the name and reputation be sullied and dragged
through the mud. But then the present chairman of the board had little
respect for one of the men who resurrected the New York Skyliners back
in the 50's and raised them to one of the greatest Drum and Bugle
Corps ever to take the field of competition.
What goes around comes around but for it to come around 3 times and
not learn from those same mistakes demonstrates insanity (or senility)
on the part of their chairman of the board as well as the collective
insanity (or senility) of the members of the board.
Lee,...I tried to warn you.
Ah, someone with a real grasp of whats going on...as for Lee, what did you spend the most time on, promoting the Skyliners, or trying to destroy Fusion Core? Look, while it is sad to see Sky go, this is drum corps; for example, how many of the founding members of DCI still exist? not many.
Bill
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Keith,
My statement wasn't directed at you at all; sorry if you thought so. Rather, my statement was directed at all those who flamed "the other corps" all winter long, moaning and groaning about how messed up it was that members were leaving Sky.
Well, I'm sorry, but if Sky was such a great place to march, we wouldn't be here, now would we? As for Rudnicki, I wouldn't count on anything less than a tirade of how unfair the drum corps world is blah, blah, blah. If not that, the P.T. Barnum of drum corps wont say anything, as hype has not helped the Skyliners, much less Drum Corps United....
Bill
Gasparilla Drum and Bugle Corps
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Lets not go there, huh? even your former corps plays on Bb now...
Bill