danguernsey
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Looks like 6 drummers; you can see the sticks of the closest snare in the picture, but not the face.
Pic is early '73, before the switch to white aussies. Scouts had 6 snares that year. From L to R: Mark Murray ('73-'76), Craig Matthews ('71-'78), Larry Stormer ('69-'75), Laki Theo ('71-'78), Joe Murray ('72-'76), and Chris Theo ('68-'75, closest snare with face cut off).
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Had we known for sure that you guys had the '74 champions flag when we stole Phillip from you in '75, we would have held his ### for ransom! We woulda had to do a prisoner exchange in the middle of a bridge somewhere.
That's right! You guys took Phillip. We should have arranged an exchange at night on the 50 yard line with no Dirty Harry overtones of retribution :)
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There was a story on the DCI web site a few years back about its return.
It was stolen off of the Vanguard's equipment truck in Hershey the day after finals in Philadelphia. I can't believe that the Vanguard would have left it unattended and make it so tempting (and easy) to take.
Most of the guys who were involved are no longer involved in any of the corps activity.
'74 was Ithaca, not Philly/Hershey (that was '75/'76). One member of the guard, working alone, took it from SCV's equipment truck.
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After a few moments of watching those dirty and cheesy drumlines, my mind wandered, "if only they could have featured the '75 SCV snareline," sigh. I know, I was dreaming. What a blown opportunity.
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I'll be watching at an AMC Theatre in Miami (Aventura). Go Scouts!
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Just about anybody's Mac Park is better than the original! However, the version in question is based on Maynard's chart, my all-time favorite chart of his, so no, I disagree that the Scouts version even comes close..as good as it is as a drum corps classic. Bruce Johnston's bari sax solo on "Live at Jimmie's" is a great moment, IMO.
Well, given that the thread is about ORIGINAL tunes via-a-via drum corps (read carefully, Mike), "the version in question" is indeed the original Macarthur's Park. I do concede that '75 Scouts's version doesn't top MF's version (a mediated rendition of the original)--never suggested we did.
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Although we based it on Maynard Ferguson"s version, the '75 Scouts's version of "MacPark" is more enjoyable than the original, which is rather lame.
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Could be, or it could be from Brians Song. It is the same ending though. Classic. Pure MADISON SCOUTS!
That would be the ending to the '74 opener, "Ballet n Brass," repeated as a reprise ending to "Brian's Song." It served as the ending to "Way We Were" in '75, '76, and '79.
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Now I'm really curious... I'm using an iPhone 3GS, and all I can seem to get is the mobile version of the website. No recaps. No scores past June 30th. And when I look at the scores or schedules sections, the oldest info shows up at the top of the page. I have to scroll the whole way to the bottom to get the most recent stuff.
I have the exact same problem with my iPhone 3GS. If someone could post on this thread the scores from the LaCrosse, WI show from last night that would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Madison Scouts
Madison Jr. Scouts
Top: 1967 Madison Explorer Scouts.
Bottom: 1968 Madison Jr. Scouts.
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Dan, I think you are correct, I also thought the same thing before I posted it. I even started to write St. Paul's name, but, two things stopped me. The photo is listed as Madison Explorer Scouts 1968. I knew Madison wore the West Point uniforms but I could not remember exactly when they went back to the scout uniform so I thought maybe the photo was tagged correctly. What also threw me off was that St. Paul's around this time wore white ties and not scarfs but the drum colors and striping do match St. Paul's.
Fleabag, thats what I recall also. St. Paul Scouts wore white neck ties in the 60s. Madison didn't use them for the entire corps until 1981.
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Madison Jr. Scouts
Looks like 1968 Madison Jr. Scouts. Black and silver drums were hand-me-downs from the Explorer Scouts.
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Another Scouts photo from around same time period, 69, 70? (may be St Paul, looks like Madison's flags)
Definitely Madison Scouts. It looks like 1973, early in the season before the switch to the white aussies. There appears to be a double tenor with red drum covers and a tymp with a white M on front, both of which appeared for the first time in '73.
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Madison Scouts 1968
Actually, that looks like the St. Paul Scouts. Madison Scouts wore West Point unis.
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I am looking forward to seeing these!
I had forgotten about Anne, Parade Specialties and did not know that 32nd Hussar's were a off-shoot of the Madison Scouts.
Even us old guys learn stuff here!!
jim
Jim,
Madison Scouts alum and field director, John Price (a member of the national champion Scouts's color guard in the late 1950s), formed the 32nd Hussars in 1969. A good number of Scouts followed Price to the Hussars in '69 after the "dark years" of the Scouts in '67/'68, including the death of C.H. Beebe in '68. The Hussars were based in Middleton, WI in the Madison area. The uniforms definitely recall the West Point unis the Scouts wore in '67 and '68--Price had a hand in acquiring West Point unis when he was with the Scouts in '67/'68. Price carried over the West Point cadet-style unis to the Hussars. To distance the Scouts from those dark years and Price's Hussars, Bill Howard, a Scouts alum from the 50s and corps director in 1969, revived the traditional Explorer Scout uni the corps wore in the 1950s (the "good years" for the Scouts). Hussars members started coming back to the Scouts in '72--the numbers went up further in '73. The Hussars folded in the spring of '73.
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In addition to that confusion Corpsreps has another set of scores [for West Alis, WI].
Vanguard 91.30
Troopers 88.250
Madison 88.050
Blue Stars 86.55
Kilties 86.45
Kingsmen 83.90
Phantom 78.750
The Thing 75.850
Commodores 74.850
Velvet Knights 64
Yes, that is correct. I remember that the scores were high, and it was the first time the Scouts beat the Blue Stars during the '73 season. West Alis set the tone for what was to come in '74 for the Scouts.
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my recollection could be faulty but wasn't Madison required to ditch all the costumes worn by the members except for "Alice" at VFW? They had Pinocchio, the 7 Dwarves, the Alice in Wonderland rabbit...but I dont think any of those costumes were worn at VFW.
Yes, costumes were banned at '71 VFW.
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1970 Madison Scouts, off the line, "Cherokee."
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1.) ?
2.) ?
3.) Chris Bratz
4.) David Lee
5.) ?
6.) Dave Woolpert
Seeing its the french horn line I do know that Bob Kuske & Dennis Drews were in the line that year
(I believe the french horn line won I & E in 73 and 74) but the first 2 guys don't look like them.
Time for the Guerno to get on here and fill in the blanks.
The pic was taken at Olbrich Park along Lake Mendota (our regular practice facility in the early 1970s during late spring/summer).
L to R:
1) Dennis Drews
2) ? drawing a blank.
3) Chris Bratz
4) David Lee
5) Rick Elvord (was DM in '73 and '74. He played French Horn from '69-'72, making me think that this pic was taken in '72. Yet, he could have been fooling around, joining his former section for a brief photo op in '73).
6) Dave Woolpert
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Hmmm. My spats look just like the ones in this photo, and I wore the same spats from 1969 through 1974 (literally the same pair). Maybe in 1975 there was a temporary switch to taller spats?
Same here, Gary. I don't recall a change in size of leggings during my career, 1970-1977. Can't wait to see the '81 retro look.
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US Open program 68
I believe the pic is the Madison Scouts in their West Point unis. The pic was probably taken in 1967.
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It looks like Pete Emmons on the far left and Fred Sanford in the white shirt.
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Well, having played Rhapsody in Blue, I can tell you (and Dan can back me up on this) that it brought down the house and was VERY powerful! With today's arranging and instrumentation, I think it will be a very powerful tune. I'm guessing that those who feel that it isn't "Madison" enough are pretty young and missed an entire era of drum corps.
It sure was powerful. Rhapsody in no way took away from the Scouts masculine image.
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I guess the final question we have about Madison is... what about the uniforms?
This isn't hard fact, but I heard that the uniform may approximate 1981-82. Bring back the spats!
some old corps photos
in Historical Junior Corps Discussions
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Ah, same difference :)