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Harold "Robbie" Robinson
Frank Pamper
George Tuthill
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any dca corps in Ohio? if not why? You'd think with current corps of bluecoats and glassmen (and the resting capital regiment), and past corps like pride of cincinnati, marion cadets, limited edition, general putnam..(were they ohio?), you'd think there would be a strong dca corps from Ohio.
Actually, the Glassmen started out as a senior corps (The Maumee Demons) and I've met some very dedicated Glassmen support people whose histories trace back to the Demons.
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It is the mandated key of G with piston and rotor (although I have seen some mention of D bugles....) I just found it interesting that a company would actually make a piston/rotor in Bb...especially with the ongoing key debate.
Frankly, you could use the term bugle and trumpet interchangeably. Many very early compositions with brass used unvalved instruments with the only pitch changes being in slides and lippings. And they were called trumpets, or buccina.
We are just in a semantical exercise these days, to a certain degree. It is the sanctioning bodies that determine what is used, or not used.
The reference to D as in G-D was an evolution from the straight G horn. The valve changed the key to D. The next step came about 1969 when the D tubing was replaced by tubing that changed the key to F, hence G-F horns.
Whaley Royce of Canada had some rich sounding horns and Getzen was trying to compete in that market. Interesting trivia; W-R introduced a new low brass instrument that never really caught on: the euphonium.
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"Fave Uniforms":
From way back when:
1961-1962 St Catherine's Queensmen
1959-1965 St Kevins Emerald Knights
1973-1982 Madison Scouts
Elphaba
WWW
Let me guess. You were a Christmas tree in a past life. :P
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The 1997 Glassmen.
I would add the Belleville uniforms, but I spent too much time picking up the fragmented pieces in the final years. I also apologize profusely to the community for those white tunics that followed. It was a question of money and design by committee.
Des Plaines Vanguard circa 1969 worked too.
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Actually, that's one word and four numbers.......
OK, two words: Jim Jones
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Then: Des Plaines Vanguard
Now: Glassmen
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Being from back in the day and starting at 13, I had no high school band experience, although I played in Jr. high band.
You have to put several things into perspective. 1st, for drummers there were very few bands who played rudimentally and corps of the '60s were heavily into rudimental overkill. 2nd, many band directors had a "no corps" policy as did mine. 3rd, I was as turned off to the high-stepping, horn-swinging, mace-throwing mediocrity of the band as the director was to the military decorum of drum corps.
I did get my "legitimate" music fix by both singing and being student conductor of the Concert Choir and taking music theory classes.
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Rochester Crusaders and Grey Knights.
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Interetsing how since this is not a Cadets thread, you are NOT going on and on about narration - and we're already up to page three and numerous comment from you. Yes, that's correct, Blue Stars used narration last year. Do you know whether or not they are using it this year? I have no idea what their plans are but shouldn't you being going on and on about how it will make this a totally unbearable show for you if they do? Why aren't you hijacking this discussion? Hmm, interesting.
Can't you just hear it now... "POWER - the power of the horn line ... the power of the drumline." "GRACE ... the grace of the danse ensemble."
I think there's a difference between a one-year experiment (Seattle, Carolina, Blue Stars) and becoming an aggressive advocate. I'm looking forward to this show and I hope the "power" is fram Saint Saens' "Organ Symphony"
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I guess that answers the question of who's playing the clarinet solo :P
Dr. Beat? b**bs
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in before close....or disappearing to DCP page 502
Now that's a much more viable conspiracy theory.
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I have problems with the premise of having today's corps as an alternative to yesterday's. I did march "back then" and thoroughly enjoyed it, but if I were to lose 35 years and a hundred aches and pains, I'd like to perform a contemporary show.
Note to the person criticizing slings, most alumni corps have abandoned carriers for slings. The carriers put all the weight on the drum and counter-balance it with the spine (not so good for battered old backs). Slings actually distribute the weight to the leg via the leg rest. The trick (of course) is to remember how to balance a drum wearing a leg rest. b**bs
Also, the big difference in the snare voice would be in the mylar vs. kevlar heads.
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Wow, I'm glad to see that this topic is being discussed...makes me proud to be a part of the drum corps community.
Anyway, don't know if this has been asked yet, but who was the first black caption head in a top 12 corps?
Also, have there ever been (are there now) any black Directors of finalist corps?
(I don't know the answers to these, just wondering if anyone else does...)
Just guessing on the caption head, but Frank Williams of Suncoast Sound comes to mind. Can't think of any finalist directors, but Harvey Wingo, perennial DI championship judge also served as director of a DII/III corps in St. Louis.
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A couple of recognitions for corps who went "above and beyond" with a diverse recruiting program: The Skokie/Des Plaines Vanguard under Frank Pamper and the Long Island Sunrisers.
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1st black division 1 marching caption head? 1st black division 1 drill designer?
I may be wrong but I think it was me.
Barry Swain? Gene Bennett?
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Chris Booker, in 1964 the 1st black marching member of the Miami Vanguards (and to my knowledge any southern corps). Also to those in the administration who withstood the insults and walkouts of several other "adults": Dick Filkins, program coordinator; the late Dick Klund, Business Manager, and; the late Harvey Ford, President of the board (and my dad).
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I guess with any Hall of Fame endeavor, there are always going to be names that are left out... at least for a while. I wonder why Wes Hobby and H. Worth Ake are not yet in the World Drum Corps Hall of Fame.... and I'm sure everyone else can think of someone deserving who should be in whatever Hall, but isn't, yet.
Fran
H. Worth will be inducted as soon as they can find 65H, 24D, 30F, 16R, and 3DM.
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I'm not getting involved really with this announcement, than to only ask that amps not be a part of it. :P We have enough of those, really.
The Glassmen have been as responsible with amps as a designated driver. I don't see Robert allowing his music to be overpowered by gimmicks anytime soon.
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neither do the tons of us who march (ed) there either. :P
To paraphrase the tee shirt: "boring their way into my checkbook". (worth every goosebump)
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If I had to guess I would start with the biggest offenders in the amplified vocal caption to date...
Cadets
Crown
Boston
Blue Devils
Blue Stars
Crossmen
Seattle Cascades
There's 7.
This type of logic can be misleading. The Glassmen voted for amplification and were the last finalist to use it. Since they have begun using it, they have done so very modestly and only for the front ensemble. Meanwhile on the other side of Ohio...................
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When I go to a show as a fan, I usually wear shorts and a t-shirt or polo shirt.
When I'm working at a show, I am always impeccably attired in the latest state-of-the-art ensemble. B) b**bs
Fran
One of your hawaiian shirts and speedos. Oh the humanity b**bs b**bs b**bs
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Sandals, socks, speedo, corps jacket, hat.
I could have gone a long time without that image, and I don't even know you. Of course all bets are off if you're Calista Flockhart.
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It's very unlikely to happen. The Big Boys take care of themselves and always will. It's human nature.
But it has happened in DCA and I believe Phantom had a near death experience not too long ago. I think you'll find that there are top 6 corps that, from time to time, are close to the brink. After all, there were top 6 corps that are no longer.
HoF announcement
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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I saw Larry and 2 of his projects this weekend. He writes to suit the environment, just like when he wrote for Maynard Ferguson.