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  1. On November 13, 2011 Diceman Radio Presents:

    The 1972 DCI Championship

    Bleu Raeders

    St. Andrews Bridgemen

    Hawthorne Muchachos

    Chicago Cavaliers

    Racine Kilties

    Des Plaines Vanguard

    Casper Troopers

    Argonne Rebels

    27th Lancers

    Santa Clara Vanguard

    Blue Stars

    Anaheim Kingsmen

    The show starts at 11:00am EST, with re-broadcasts at 7:00pm EDT Sunday and Tuesday evenings

    Enjoy!

  2. OK, off topic or not....

    Drum Corps History it is! Something you are all interested in, no?

    Ron's Drum Corps History Podcast

    I believe he is going to feature a sr. then a Jr.

    Don't tell him I said so.... but, this is SO cool!!

    Thanks for the plug!

    Heh...

    There are literally hundreds of corps I can cover, so this should be a long-term project!

    And hopefully the production quality will get better as I get more comfortable with it all, but it's something I've been wanting to do for a long time...

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  3. Congratulations to the U.S. Air Force Academy "Flight of Sound" Drum & Bugle Corps for their win at the Interservice Academy Drum & Bugle Corps Championships.

    U.S. Coast Guard Academy "Windjammers" - 83.20

    U.S. Naval Academy Drum & Bugle Corps - 89.45

    U.S. Air Force Academy "Flight of Sound" - 90.10

    High Brass - Navy

    High Percussion - Navy

    High Visual - Air Force

    YouTube links...

    Coast Guard -

    Navy -

    Air Force -

    Thanks to all who attended!!!!

    Jeff

    What struck me is how well the USNA and USAF shows worked with a small pit and no CG...

    Nice job!

  4. When Bridgemen first returned to the field they did have amps. 3 pit people vs 75ish horns and a whopper battery didn't cut it. Their pit has grown well. Fits the size of the marching corps much better now. :smile:

    I am not a fan of electronics but do understand why some groups use them. There aren't rules dictating what an alumni corps can and can't use. I really wish the griping about their previous use of amps would stop.

    Empire used an electric base at RCAs back in the 80s, I think.

    I have a video where Dick Robilloto[sp] kept holding his clipboard up to cover his ears every time he crossed in front of the amp...

    Heh...

  5. Tom,

    Congrats on your retirement!

    While the Drum Corps fraternity will miss your calming and measured demeanor, I for one am happy that you have your priorities set right.

    Thank you for welcoming me back into the Drum Corps fold in '98, and all the help and guidance you've given me since...

    You'll be missed, my friend!

    Take care of yourself,

  6. Not completely true. I believe Racine Scouts didn't compete for several years in the early/mid 80's. They began competing in DCM late 80s and started DCI early 90s.

    Someone can correct me... but I believe the corps didn't compete from 72ish to late 80s.... just remained a parade/community/VFW corps.

    (Sorry this is so wordy - I get a little passionate!)

    I went by what they say on their website:

    http://www.racinescouts.com/about_us.php

    "The Racine Scouts Drum & Bugle Corps is based and housed in Racine, Wisconsin. Started as a Boy Scout of America troop in 1927, the Scouts are the oldest continually competitive Drum Corps in North America as well as the oldest musical scouting unit."

    Corpsreps has scores for them in 1973 - and then again starting in 1981.

    It's not a complete database yet, as I've been finding out while doing some other research, but it sounds like you're about right.

    Then there's this from http://www.racinekiltiealumni.org/Racine_Scouts_pt_3_History_Page.html :

    "In 1974 the Racine Explorer Scouts had a hard time recruiting members. What wound up on the field in competition

    for this organization in 1974 was known as the Racine-Kenosha Scout Drum and Bugle Corps. They only competed

    locally in Class B and small non-DCI competitions. I could only find three contest results for them. At the American

    Legion State Championships in Milwaukee on Saturday, July 19th, 1974,the Racine-Kenosha Scouts scored 10.05

    points and placed 8th (Last place) in Class B competition. The next day, Sunday, July 20th, 1974, at the Racine

    New Day - New Dawn Drum and Bugle Corps Contest at Horlick Field, the Racine-Kenosha Scouts scored 29.4

    points to finish in ninth place. (Last place) Then at the "Vibrations '74" Contest in Oshkosh, WI, on Sunday, August

    11th, they scored 37.80 for fifth place. (Last place).

    "After talking about merging with the Greendale, WI, Mariners Drum and Bugle Corps, the Racine Explorer Scout

    Drum and Bugle Corps decided not to merge, but to continue on its own despite its small membershhip. The Racine

    Explorer Scouts re-organized as a parade unit for 1975."

    So again, you're about right.

    But neither Govies nor Racine beat Kidsgrove (senior 1910) or Jubal (junior 1911)...

    Too bad Royal Brigade (founded in 1976) folded around 1981. They were a merger of the Meadowlarks - and the C.W. Townsmen, who were founded in 1880.

    The Townsmen played at Gen. Grant's funeral, and were part of Benjamin Harrison's Presidential campaign!

    Perdue University formed a Drum Corps in 1886 - but switched to a marching band shortly afterwards...

    (John Philip Sousa wrote an instruction manual for drums and bugles the same year.)

    In Jodeen Popp's book, she mentions the first written account of a D&BC field contest in 1872 in Wallingford, Ct.

    Also, Europe (Germany and France) had drum and bugle corps as far back as the 1750's.

    So it's all relative and how you promote it.

    Heh...

    Not taking anything away from Govies or Racine!

    They're both wonderful organizations that deserve to be proud of their rich History!

    Again, sorry for being so wordy...

  7. ...

    A lot of people also don't understand the logistics of traveling out west. The Renegades and Dream are about 400 miles apart. That's a full day drive just for either corps to get to each other's shows. If NWV had survived and we wanted a central location for a West Coast championship it would have been in Medford, OR.

    A lot of folks don't understand the logistics the NE corps deal with, either...

    Bucs had an easy 5+ hour drive to Rochester

    Same for Bush

    Same for Cabs

    Same for Hurcs

    Same for Sun

    Same for Fusion Core

    Same for Windsor Regiment

    (I could get from Vegas to LA faster!)

    Even Excelsior traveled about 4 hours - and it's a straight shot across the State.

    Heck, some of the DCA "Wheels" live around Providence, RI - a good 7 hours away.

    It was a haul for everybody - well, except Empire and Peashey!

    Heh...

    Many people think the NE corps are right on top of each other.

    T'ain't so - especially considering the conditions.

    (Hurcs should be able to get to Clifton in 1 hour 44 minutes, according to the maps.

    Yeah, right...)

    I've driven up and down both Coasts, and getting around the NE is a lot slower...

    (Narrower/rougher roads, slower speed limits, lousy weather etc.)

  8. Ooops... forgot about that and I was at DCA last year... :doh:

    And would love to see the Midhsipmen march for once. They always did a great standstill at Harrisburg.

    Edit: Congrats to Govies.... just looked at last nights scores. And downpour at end... at least they got retreat in from what I read...

    The Midshipmen came in 2nd at this year's Inter Service D&B Corps Championship, nnd there's a vid on that tubular place from a 9/3 half-time show, doing "Hunt for Red October".

  9. Finally caught the corps show on the WebCast and caught John saying something he'd better change for 2012 DCA. :rolleyes: John said the Govies were the oldest DC in America and he allllllmost got it right. Govies ARE oldest competing and oldest continuousily operating corps in the US.

    According to their website, the drum corps was inactive from 1938-1944...

    That would make the Racine Scouts the oldest continuously active competing corps in the U.S.

    But for the oldest... next year you're gonna be in the home stadium of the oldest DC in America (US Navy Midshipmen).

    And Kidsgrove will be there.

    They celebrated their Centennial last year...

    Then there's that other green crew an hour or so north of Annapolis in Hanover....

    Seriously I'm a fan of the corps and can't wait to see you live next year.... :thumbup: And plenty of free time tomorrow to watch the Vegas show again.

    Yep! Looking forward to Md in 2012!

  10. What's going to be very interesting over the next months is to observe what decisions DCA makes as an organization. Half the finalists in open call are outside the northeast "heart" of DCA. That has to count for something.

    Half the Voting Members are now outside the NorthEast.

    But there is no Rules Congress until after the 2012 Championships, so it doesn't mean much right now...

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