Hrothgar15
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Phantom sounds like a real drum corps tonight. Simple as that.
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Really couldn't care less about hearing about some old white guy's acid trip. Get over yourself man, you're not special or profound because you took drugs. Corps sounds great, but if I wouldn't want the guy behind me yammering about this while I’m trying to listen to the performance, why would I want to hear it over a loudspeaker?
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Crowd seems to love hearing brass with no synth.
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4 hours ago, lowend said:
Nothing prior to Bluecoats 2016 would be competitive now.
This seems like a failure on DCI judging’s part, no? There should be a diversity of show styles and material that are equally competitive at equal levels of demand.
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I…loved that Scouts performance? I can see on the current sheets why judges would want more in “GE” but they are taking this thing and running with it.
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Just now, BlueStainGlass said:
If colts are in who is out?
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Colts show isn’t trying to be something it’s not. Just some really nice music and drill with a light theme.
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Man, Colts are cookin’ tonight. This is finals worthy.
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38 minutes ago, tedrick said:
I've been going back and listing to shows from the 80s and 90s and the quality of the books is head and shoulders above what's performed today - I truly feel sorry for members today -- I appreciate that no designer wants to do another Bernstein show or another Copeland show or Fiddler on the Roof for the 6th time - but come on people -- it's obvious the the musicality and lyric quality is not there anymore
Yep. This is drum corps’ inconvenient truth if you will. There are a few books each year that come close, but they end up being the exception, not the rule.
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10 hours ago, Cappybara said:
BD does a rotating company front nearly every year, it’s Murphy’s signature
Boston and Crown do a ton of unison flag work and so does BD (in their ballads)
This post may have gone over your head. The point was to compare the obvious yes answers of the first two with the obvious no answer of the third.
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4 minutes ago, jwillis35 said:
Not everything in a show is intended for these things.
Not anymore, no.
But yes, you can absolutely applaud the building of a musical phrase, the development of a show theme using music and drill, or virtually any visual move—because they are all performed by the performing members. Obviously some are more impressive or impactful than others, and those tend to be applauded more. But everything a corps actually performs is a potential applause point.
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Columbians hornline sounds great. Bringing back fond memories of the Boston Crusaders 2008 show (criminally underrated).
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3 minutes ago, DCIFan2022 said:
It’s the sound from Flo….
So have they or haven’t they?
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20 hours ago, rchitectburd23BD01 said:
Is it me or have the removed the choral synth patches in the ballad?
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2 hours ago, PamahoNow said:
When I first heard that the Bluecoats were doing "Taming the Dragon". I listened to it. I cannot figure out how you can do "Taming the Dragon" without narration.
By just playing the music from it.
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12 minutes ago, Precious Roy said:
I propose a sub-division of "SoundSport" called "Classic Field Shows" (or just "Classic"):
- Performed on the standard 100-yard field
- No props, other than guard flags and other "spinnables"
- No amplification or other electronics
- Instrumentation would be limited to any brass (any key), and any percussion
- Scoring sheets that emphasize drill form mastery and marching precision, rather than "staging" and "simultaneous demand" (do all the bug squashing you want, but its not going to increase your visual score)
I would call this “Heaven” 🙂
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45 minutes ago, Lance said:
It's your choice to inflate what you happen to like with that which is objectively good or bad, and it really comes off as condescending....and I am pretty much in lock step with liking the same things you like. It's weird to treat people who like the product they see on the field today like they're "wrong" because they don't want to see more of what you happen to love. Super cringe.
I don’t think I implied anything like this…?
I just think “drum corps had to evolve with the times” is a cop out, mostly because there’s really shaky evidence that that’s what happened. It’s an excuse used to justify and all but mandate recent design trends, for fear of the activity surviving or something. Just be honest and say “some designers have decided to consolidate the approach to sound in shows with WGI’s and some audiences applaud that.” I would never want to disallow that approach but corps shouldn’t be made to feel from the judges or otherwise that it’s the only one, or that a design that could have worked 20 or 30 years ago has no competitive potential for that reason.
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24 minutes ago, Lance said:
And you truly think that 2 valve g instruments and pure drill could still be competitive in 2022, and it's simply not correct.
I’d be the first person to tell you the judges would place a show like that dead last, as has happened before with corps like Pioneer. The point is that the sheets should be changed so that something like that could be competitive, so we could actually see some diversity of instrumentation and design on the field. Or at the very least have a separate all-acoustic “Live Class” or something with different sheets and an incentive for corps to perform in that.
32 minutes ago, Lance said:Jordan, you choose not to get it because the only thing that's important to you is instrumentation and show design that matches what made you fall in love with drum corps.
I fell in love with drum corps from an audio recording of the Cadets in 2000, on Bb/F. I only then later started listening to older shows and decided G bugles sounded better. 🙃
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8 minutes ago, Cappybara said:
The majority of the audience has the attention of a peanut thanks to things like Tik Tok and Instagram that prioritize bite sized information over comprehensive and deeply informative forms of media. As a result, the shows have evolved to get with the times and match that attention span. Short musical statements switching into a new one abruptly, loud chords, flashy moments, dance breaks, etc all to maintain the audience’s crappy attention spans
I’m no exception. While I don’t mess with Tik Tok, I definitely have less of an attention span than I did in high school just prior to when smartphones and social media became the norm.
I love Twitter and TikTok as much as the next person but when I go to see a drum corps perform a few pieces of music in 11 minutes I expect each one to last longer than 12 seconds. Thankfully there are a few corps doing that this year (Crown and Phantom come to mind). Do you honestly think that is alienating modern audiences?
I really don’t think that type of design has anything to do with attention spans, I think it has to do with designers having the same idea of the role sound should play in both DCI and WGI: effects that support the visuals.
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4 minutes ago, Box5Opinion said:
Whether it's removing the tick system,expanding the percussion section, using horns - non G bugles, trombone, electronics, mics, expanding from the traditional 128 number to 165 marcing members, voice or narration, drum corp is evolving with the times. The cats out of the bag. All of the corps will have to adapt with current trends to stay relevant. Some corps will thrive and other fall to the wayside. It all depends on the staff, the musicians and guard members to executive thier provided show and how the judges react to what they hear and see on the field on any given day. Just my 2 cents!
I don’t get it. Was drum corps not “with the times” in 1980 (when a top corps played a pop chart from the year before as their opener, on G bugles)? It’s not like marching bands didn’t start using trombones until 2014. It’s not a “current trend,” it’s just a thing marching bands have always done.
What would you say is different about “the times” now that drum corps is finally catching up to?
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10 minutes ago, DeanInChicago said:
Do you remember that time you applauded a rotating company front?
Do you remember that time you cheered the unison flag work?
Do you recall ever throwing babies at narration?
The audio of every discernible moment of every show should be able to be applauded for its performance. Obviously it’s not realistic to clap at everything, but you theoretically should be able to. There’s nothing to clap for upon hearing a recorded sentence.
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14 minutes ago, Vidal28Rdg said:
There is some wisdom out there, not all wisdom of course, that says people either buy in or not in the first minute of a show, and it’s very peculiar that every corps is kinda going about it the same way at least with slow synth-heavy openings. I’m all for an explosive start right off the jump, I wonder why any corps aren’t really trying to do that, it’s always an automatic buy-in from the audience in my experience. Although there are questions of how do you follow that up and keep the momentum of that start. I agree the selection and styles from corps are diverse still, especially the closer you get to the top ranks, but ehhh not a fan of most corps’ openings this year
Yep. As far as I can tell only the Crossmen have the hornline play during the first sound of the show in one of the four orders, so a grand total of .25 corps. Happy to be proven wrong.
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17 minutes ago, Cappybara said:
That would very much destroy the diversity of shows we see today and lead to an arms race of gimmicks to impress and engage the crowd
Do you honestly think there’s diversity on the field today? The first minute of practically every show is the same.
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15 minutes ago, CAtenhut said:
I'm not so sure this activity would've survived if it didn't allow this to happen.
Citation needed.
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Friday, July 15th - “Show of Shows” … Boylan Central Catholic High School Stadium … Rockford, ILLINOIS
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See, this is what a drum corps show is supposed to be. You're supposed to be able to close your eyes during a relentless wall of sound as the ballad climaxes and let it wash over you. It's a shame this isn't scoring well, they sound fantastic.