steelchops
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The music is awesome
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Has anyone seen any of the Wisconsin practices?
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Any updates on the show?
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I heard Afterburners at recent camp......it is definitely a loud, ,in your face Madison opener!!!!!!
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Well, all theory of course but multifactorial.
1. The challenge of maintaining the Scouts tradition while adapting to the quickness of change in DCI
2. The pressure to make the corps coed
3. The challenge of maintaining the Scout brand of masculinity and aggression in an all male corps in the current environment where masculinity is criticized
DP does not have an easy job- yet, I respect his effort and donate to the corps
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I’m not sure the crazies are exactly “driving the bus.” I think they “own the bus company” but realize the bus company wasn’t delivering and also partly realize there is pressure to perform. I think if Madison does not improve DP and probably CK are toast.
I believe that is why they hired a winner like Jimmy Elvord who is 1. Extremely intelligent; 2. Introspective and able to learn and improve upon previous experience (proof-1974 vs 1975) and 3. JE is very Humble-again a personality trait of a “true” winner not someone who licks into presiding over a winning system.
I am not impressed that DP, as a leader, has an aggressive will to win- I think he’s trying to straddle winning with something else.....I dunno
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In no particular order
1973- started the rise and jazz format first appearance of Ballet in Brass
1999 incredible ending
1996 - a mis abuelos sop solo pure power and guts
2013 Band of bros- loved the theme and music
1975 - lessons learned from 1974 helped bring this masterpiece
1988- Mello solo just one of many incredible moments
2001- best version of Ballet in Brasd- all 3 sips hit their screamer notes at the end
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On 2/7/2019 at 2:24 AM, swmstom said:
2019: I just want the Scouts to be the Scouts again...give the fans a visual and musical roundhouse kick to the face. The goal should be for every fan to walk out of a stadium saying, "they might not've won, but that was frickin' AWESOME!"
Any word on the recent camp?
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16 hours ago, FlamMan said:
I had the pleasure of sitting next to Elvord a couple of years ago at one of the Scout shows in WI, I think it was Whitewater maybe. He is an engaging & intelligent guy. I remember him talking about what a great easy to understand & well designed drum corps show The Academy had. He didn't say much during the Scouts performance.I remember thinking that here is a guy who is logical & should still be involved in drum corp. While he may not have the design resume of others, no way can he be any worse than what we have seen out of Bloomington under this current Scout regime. Returning the Scouts to what many of us think of when we think of the Madison Scouts would be a step forward, not backward. Playing jazz/Latin & being entertaining & bad a** would be unique in the activity.
I marched in ‘74 during his run.....he had incredible leadership skills, he was a motivator, he came down on us when we deserved it, lifted us when we needed it. I think his most outstanding quality is intelligence. I firmly believe he is a step ahead and will not accept mediocrity.
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On 8/13/2018 at 9:17 AM, Box5Opinion said:
My two cents: Have two judges, judge the caption awards during finals (guard, brass, percussion)!
Great topic!! An idea for DCI. Full Disclosure. What was BD or SCV and every corps previous year budget....let’s disclose every drum corps expenditures so the fan base can decide for themselves if there is any correlation between expenditures and results.
this could serve as a call-out to judging bias based on corps that we all know control the top end of results. I totally love BD and SCV....they are incredible....... but I more love true unbiased competition. Could a up and comer corps ever overtake one of these titans? NEVERin this current structure !
Maybe full disclosure serves as a check on judging bias.
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As a Scouts fan I wonder if this is true....although they are the Madison Scouts, their travel and practice hub is Indy, much recruiting is TX. Do drum corps that reside, recruit and practice in same locale as their name have an advantage?
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Ricky Elvord Madison 1973-74
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Great topic- I watched this year’s Whitewater show with Colts and was super excited with their volume- they really lit the field. Also noticed the high mics on the sideline that were (I’m told by another non mic’ed Corp Director) running the field feed through the board. In other words, pick the volume you want.
I love the colts show, but volume is one reason some of us come to these shows....we want the paint peeled.
in fairness, most judges are walking the field so they may not hear the volume we do in the stands. However, if the Colts and Blue Devils generally have equal peak volume according to your data, what part is amplification playing and is this distorting scoring?
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Hi All, I'm the OP......There have been many tangible, constructive and great ideas. For example- explore relationships with those in the community with "deep pockets," how can we create "win-win" scenarios with them, and can this spur others to explore and improve upon? An example could be a private company owner has a National Sales Meeting...these things always start with excitement...what better way to open a meeting than a drum line in front of 500 fat old guys exuding cool? In exchange for that, the company owner gives a donation. I am hoping, for the benefit of those corps that don't have major cash flow streams that we can give creative fund raising ideas like that, which can benefit all...your creative thoughts are important because maybe a few haven't thought of them.....please keep thinking and pass on your ideas, even if untested...I know they are all appreciated!!
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I'm wondering what the universe of expertise can suggest here........what novel ways have you seen that might help with this never-ending problem?
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In your opinion, what were the top major on or off field innovations in DCI from the 1970's to present? They can be the obvious like pit off the field or z-pull or whatever. There are so many- which ones were the most significant to the activity?
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Agree- really too bad that we as fans and the corps that are already running a tight budget are subject to licensing fees from songs performed decade(s) ago.
Question: what do you think fans would be willing to pay for this app?
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So, does anybody know what happened to the Madison Scouts app? I can no longer get it to open, and when I tried to reinstall, I get a message that the app is no longer available. If Madison was going to pull the app, it would have been nice to have let people know, especially since people paid for it.
Hi There, I asked Chris awhile back, here was his response,
"for now it has been suspended indefinitely until we can address some music licensing concerns. Because the app is streaming the audio it now fall under a new category of licensing which may make it cost prohibitive for us to provide the service."
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Am I wrong in thinking that some folks feel that it's The Madison Scouts vs. the world?
It's a Madison Scouts thread- the question asked was the 2014 ending balsy, I said yes- try laying your cards on the line with one soloist in front of 30,000 people- it takes a set to do that- tell me about your experience in that situation............ go away
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Ballsy is not how the end of their show should be described. Not saying it wasn't good, but it definitely wasn't ballsy.
When the other 11 finalists do a big bang ending and Madison risks it with a single soloist WITH NO COVER leaving it out there, IT IS BALSY!!!!!
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I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned aggression. That could be the element missing. Madison has always owned a good portion of the crowd when they perform, and their respect for the audience and appreciation are both evident in their shows. This has not changed, but the feeling is not always there in some recent shows, though as I say this I know I personally have loved their shows and 2013 ranks among my favorite Madison shows, but it had a power, impact, aggression, or whatever you call it. I'm thinking this is not something designed as much as something instilled. Perhaps as alums teach about brotherhood, which from what I understand they do well, they could teach the swagger as well.
I'll second aggression. When I think of Madison, I think of the obvious in your face attitude, but a nuance of their trademark could be a dark and maybe even angry aggression. An example from this year was "Star Children" which has an erie start, but because it was in a minor key, has a somewhat dark yet incredibly powerful in your face climax consistent with the brand. This was got people out of their seats because they really miss this dark intensity from the Scouts (IMO)
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Could any World Class do Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon? If so, who would do the best rendition(with the assumption they would have the rights) could it be performed and keep the audience interest or is it too mellow?
Discuss
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You know how sometimes pro sports teams bring out the retro unies for a game or 2? What if DCI declared that for one season, each DCI corps dusts off a great show from the past of their choosing? Current rules with pits, etc. remain the same, BUT the corps can bring back classic drill or even a stint carrying tympani or a plate line.
Would this be of interest to the masses? Would the directors go for it?
Lastly- would this make that year any more competitive?
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I'll take 2 more orders of that!!
2019 Madison Scouts!
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Does any other corps do drill as complex as the high speed rotating boxes in the opener?