Roark1
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DCP, how I have missed you. You never disappoint. A discussion about the Scouts moving to be inclusive of all genders devolves into a snarky insult-fest from people getting butt-hurt regarding someone's educational credentials.
Again, I'd like to thank you all for your continued passionate interest in the Madison Scouts. That is always a good thing.-
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25 minutes ago, Jeff Ream said:
there's 2 so far
Actually, I think it's more like 6.
Alice (Bonnie)
3 Capitolaires that filled in as the American Party in the 70s
The lady who preformed as Camen
Meagan from last year.
In my mind, if you performed with the corps, you are an alum.
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Well, catching up on this thread has been interesting to say the least.
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1 hour ago, HockeyDad said:
Michael Leckrone. Now in his 50th (!!) and final year as director of the University of Wisconsin marching band
I marched for Mike! Eat A Rock!
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Actually, if you are old enough, you had to make an adjustment going to a flat drum.
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5 hours ago, swmstom said:
Hopefully back to flat position snares. Was never a fan of the tilted deal.
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32 minutes ago, DAvery said:
Exactly which relationships are they building? Alums to members? Staff to members? Corps to audience? I'm just saying this seems to be a look backward, but if that is what they feel is right I'm OK with that. When Mason took over there was a definite nod to past Madison glories and going to the "glory days" well worked for them at the time. This seems to be a repeat. And maybe this is what they feel they need to do to mend fences. I'm OK with whatever keeps them on the field.
There will not be Slaughter, God Bless the Child, Malaguena, company fronts, or the traditional uniform, etc. There will be modern, contemporary drum corps, with a current version of "Maditude".
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9 minutes ago, GUARDLING said:
Agree, A willingness to move forward is a good thing and even though some clearly bad choices have been made, Scouts push hard I believe.
One cannot re-write the past, but we can write the future.
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7 minutes ago, GUARDLING said:
Nothing wrong with bringing back alumni or people from the past ALTHOUGH bringing back people is 1 thing bringing back the right people is quite a different thing. I've said it a million times knowing ALL the players, to know what works you have to look back as to what doesn't work or has not worked. SOmething stays behind that has pushed good people out.
Well, time will tell so let's enjoy whatever is to come.
Go Scouts, let's be Loud, Proud, and Pleasing the Crowd!
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On 9/7/2018 at 3:17 PM, rpbobcat said:
If its Wisconsin it should be Leinenkugel,preferably Canoe Paddler.
In keeping with the 1/2 full theme:
Optomist: The glass is 1/2 full
Pessimist:The glass is 1/2 empty
Engineer:The glass is twice the size it needs to be
Pragmatist - WTF, fill'er up.
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6 minutes ago, xandandl said:
Good add. Interesting that the announcement is coming from Mr. Aubry rather than Mr. Komnick or Peterson.
The announcement comes from Chris Komnick. If you look at the upper left side you will see the author is Chris K.
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Regarding transgender participants:
At the October 16, 2017 board meeting, the committee presented a recommendation to the board to amend its existing eligibility policy to include transgender males beginning in 2018. The board unanimously approved the recommendation and has been working with the National Center for Transgender Equality over the past two weeks to draft a policy with appropriate language. Eligibility for the 2018 Madison Scouts will be based on the gender identity indicated by the applicant, including transgender males.
Seems clear cut to me.
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and this my friends, is what a very small few on here (me NOT being one of them) would like to see drum corps go back to. no dance, no artistic guard, no pit, uniforms, g bugles, etc.... etc....
There, I think that may be a more accurate representation...
Don't be a troll..
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At least we are passionate and hopeful, and I will never apologize for that!
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Yes, but for the traditionalists among us, its been reported from reliable sources that for 2015, INT will not be using props, amplification, electronics, narrators.( At least not to the naked eye, anyway.)
Yay for Old Skool!
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My way too early predictions.
1. The Cadets - Say what you will about last year or what happened at Finals or what not . . . a pi$$ed off George Hopkins can do some pretty terrifying things. And by terrifying, I mean awesome. This is a corps that is hungry and has the talent and staff to pull off a championship calibre show. Combine that with a returning class that has a chip on their collective shoulders, and I think you have a VERY dangerous corps.
2. Blue Devils - Nine years out of ten, I give the Blue Devils the nod to win the championship. They have a ridiculous amount of talent, combined with a design staff that consistently knows how to best feature that talent and put out some truly mind-blowing shows. That said, how do you follow an undefeated, championship year where you just received the highest score in DCI history? The fact that I have to justify putting BD in second - and not in first - is a testament to how incredible their last few years have been. That said, I think after a year like this one there has to be something of a let down. Because what more do they have to prove? This is the best corps in DCI right now. Period. And everyone knows it. I don't think BD will ever become complacent; but I also don't see them having the same fire in the belly that they had after the 2013 season. They don't have anything more to prove to anyone.
3. Santa Clara Vanguard - After a few years of very consistent placement and show design, I'm hoping SCV comes out with something a little more ballsy and dramatic this time around. Between the killer battery and front ensemble, and a steadily improving visual program, I think they nab the bronze medal after a lot of back-and-forth with the Bluecoats.
4. Bluecoats - What more can be said after their 2014 season? This past summer was a lightning-in-a-bottle type season for the Bluecoats, which would probably have won in any year without an angry BD, but which will be almost impossible to repeat. They'll still be fan favorites and I think they'll go back and forth with SCV, but I think they lose the percussion score by just enough to drop to fourth place.
5. The Cavaliers - They're ready to break into the true upper echelon, but who do you knock out? The talent in the upper level groups is just too high right now for the men in green to make a move. But I think they continue their forward momentum and build on another great program, maybe setting up a medal contender for 2016?
6. Carolina Crown - Incredible brass, but lackluster percussion and a repetitive visual program isn't enough to keep up with the big boys anymore. The Blue Devils showed this summer that Crown's brass isn't invincible, and unless Crown comes out with something truly unique, I don't see their design being able to overtake any of the above corps. I want to be wrong with this prediction more than any other - but I don't see Crown deviating too far from the formula they've been using since 2012, and I think it will cost them.
7. Blue Stars - This corps has all the right pieces in place to make a move to the next level. They have the design staff and they have the talent, the only question is whether the design staff lets the talent shine by writing a show that truly challenges the corps to reach its fullest potential. Between a killer guard (remember - 4th at finals despite going on 9th to last!), one of the best front ensembles in DCI, and the musical writing of Saucedo/Mapes/Grom, I think this corps is poised to make a leap into the next "tier." The only thing that might hold them back is their brass, which hopefully they'll address with a new caption head.
8. Blue Knights - Like the Bluecoats, I thought this year was a phenomenal, lightning-in-a-bottle type year for the corps, which I think will be tough to repeat. I don't see Blue Knights dropping much at all, and I think they'll be right in the fight for Top 7 with Blue Stars, but I don't see another magical, emotional power-house like they produced this year. They certainly have the talent to push even higher, though, so I hope that I'm mistaken.
9. Phantom Regiment - Phantom just seems like a corps stuck in a rut right now. Absurdly high levels of talent, but without any real vision in the design department to let that talent shine through. There's a reason that everyone says their shows have been the same since 2011; it has felt like a copy-and-paste show for the last few years from them, and without something to shake up the formula I don't think Phantom sees any significant reward from the judges.
10. Madison Scouts - Major staff overhauls have set them up well to move back into the Top 8-ish range. But that many new staff will take some time to mesh and find their rhythm. I think Madison avoids what has been their tendency of the last few years to start strong and fade in late July; but I don't think they knock off Phantom or Blue Knights. This year is largely about reversing downward momentum for Madison, and I think they accomplish that goal admirably, setting themselves up well for a stronger 2016.
11. Boston Crusaders - Angering the powers-that-be and then losing some crucial staff is a really great way to risk falling out of Finals. Boston has too much talent and pride to let that happen in its 75th anniversary season, but I think it will be a harder test than they realize.
12. Crossmen - Another dogfight year for the 12-14 corps. Troopers and Colts both have the talent to take this spot away from the Crossmen, but right now it belongs to them and someone is going to have to take it from them. The battle for the last Finals spot is my favorite competitive action every season. The quality of shows from this range of placements is incredible, and I sincerely hope for a three-way tie for 12th place on Friday night.
A well thought out analysis and trending model, especially given the fact that it is still August, and we don’t even know who will be playing what yet. One thing is for sure, it will only get harder to get into and stay in the top six, and the 10-15 battle will be more difficult than ever.
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INT will be middle of the pack...again.
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You asked for it!!!!
Anaheim Kingsmen
Mighty St. Joe's (as a junior corps again)
Magnificent Yankees
Greece Cadets
Gauchos
Patriots
Royal Coachmen
Imperial Regiment
Mighty Liberators
Squires
Avant Garde
Oswego Black Knights
27th Lancers
Muchachos
North Star
Oakland Crusaders
Seneca Optimists
General Butler Vagabonds
Memphis Blues Brass band
Florida Wave
Suncoast Sound
Glassmen
Southwind
Charioteers
Floridians
Valiant Knights
Wausau Story
Marquis
Argonne rebels
SkyRyders
Geneseo Knights
PrecisionAires
St. John's Girls
CapitolAires
Mello Dears
Alpine Girls
Fire-ettes
Bon Bons
St. Ignatius Girls
Belleville Black Knights
Ventures
Les Chatelaines
Les Eclipse
Offensive Lions
Black Watch
Seattle Imperials
Marksmen
Argonauts
Velvet Knights
Freelancers
Valley Fever
San Jose Raiders
Midlanders
Canadian Knights
Emerald Knights
Des Plaines Vanguard
Blue Rock
Bleu Raeders
Southernaires
Night Hawks
Royal Crusaders
Bridgemen
St. Rita's Brassmen
St. Kevin's
probably more LOL
This!
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I have disagree. I felt that they did a nice job of reconnecting with the brand while working toward making it work in the current artistic environment. I really liked each of the shows during Jim's time with the corps. Granted, I'm a total homer, but for me, they worked.
The goal now is to take that re-established brand, and move it forward n the current artistic environment. The goal is also to be " Loud, proud, and entertaining the crowd"!
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BTW. We are certainly making some noise this week, and it is all positive.
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Well said Mike!
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I can't wait to see what James Sparling can do now that he's been given the keys. I hope we have grabbed one of the up-and-comers at just the right time. Personally, I think we have.
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Here is what I posted in the other thread.
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For me, In want them to perform the show that the crowd talks about/sings as they leave the stadium. I always want them to be the crowd favorite. You are correct that in a perfect world, they can achieve that, and place in the upper end of the activity.
What I would REALLY like to see, is for them to lead a resurgence in shows that play to the crowd and have big, powerful, WOW moments (in my mind at least). Can DCI turn in that direction, who knows. If it can, I would like to see Madison to lead the way.-
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Honest question, no pretense, BS, flame bait, etc.
As a Madison alum, have you been happy with their shows the last several years? Are you content with Scouts playing "to the fans," so to speak, but scoring in the bottom of Finals, or would you prefer that they cater more to the judges/sheets possibly at the expense of crowd-pleasing? Obviously in a perfect world Scouts would do all-of-the-above, but in an either/or situation where do you stand?
I'm not a Scouts alum or super-fan; I'm genuinely curious what their fan base thinks about their designs the last couple of years. It seems to me from a design stand-point they've been behind many of the other Finalists, but if their base prefers entertaining + Finals and is willing to give up competitive edge for that, I find that interesting. I know in the 90's there was a contingent of members & staff from Madison who seemingly didn't care about placements as long as crowds were giving it up for them nightly; is that mentality still thriving in Madison with fans?
For me, In want them to perform the show that the crowd talks about/sings as they leave the stadium. I always want them to be the crowd favorite. You are correct that in a perfect world, they can achieve that, and place in the upper end of the activity.
What I would REALLY like to see, is for them to lead a resurgence in shows that play to the crowd and have big, powerful, WOW moments. Can DCI turn in that direction, who knows. If it can, I would like to see Madison to lead the way.
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2019 Madison Scouts!
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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To be fair, that is a pretty big deal. Anecdotally it seems to have generated a great deal of interest in the Corps from a new pool of potential MMs, and that is a good thing going forward.