idlethreats
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YES!!! JUST GOT MY NEW HAIRCUT!!
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I don't think the sarcasm is necessary. My opinion is somehow invalid because it isn't yours, Tom? I stated a preference, nothing more. Not everyone will like everything. Downey is a big boy, I'm sure he can handle it, and likely does often.
I really like this persons opinion... Simply because they stick to their true thoughts and OBSERVATIONS instead of what other people type or say.. I'm a huge BD fan, they are the biggest reason why I marched drum corps in the first place. Wayne has a UNIQUE style of writing. In my opinion, it appears that he goes for more of the Jazz, Big Band style where the top end dominates the bottom. Somewhat balanced, but definitely a strong suit for the higher tessitura voices. His arranging is STELLAR for this style. Doug Thrower's arranging is DIFFERENT... who is to say what is correct and what is not??? Really... Music is a flexible art. The listeners opinion changes constantly and what the listener wants to hear is ultimately what the reaction portrays... whether or not it may be something fresh or a rendition of an old standard with mild alteration... who cares??? This provides the AUDIENCE the opportunity to make their OWN MIND up about the product presented. Isn't that what every single person does when they listen to a new piece???..... Doug CHOOSES to write more across the voices, putting the melody in every voice.. Do YOU prefer this or not, that is the real question?? Why do some people listen to Bach and some people listen to Wagner?? Don't they write COMPLETELY different from one another... Too many people on these boards, and in life, rely on OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS to establish their own... It doesn't matter what your professor or instructor tells you is "correct", it is what you believe is correct and believe works for you.. That is why music is such a phenomenal art form, opinion is opinion... choose what you think is ideal, that is what makes it unique.
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yes, hahahaha
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I don't know how long that link will last.. So if it gets taken down, just search YouTube for Patrick's Solo - Bluecoats 2010
I'll try to get a recording of it with a met, I'll just have to find some time. Just started classes back up last week.
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I posted the sheet music up merely to share the experience with others who love this activity as much as I do. Bashing electronics and whatever else, making arguments is really not the intent of this thread. WITH that said, I agree with both sides. YES it would be nice to have a good recording without the electronics.. However, I'm pretty open-minded with modern marketability and always looking for new ways to event myself as a player. I mean, I play euphonium as my primary, I have to do something or else I won't be noticed. I think the effect is really innovative, at least in this activity, and provides the listener with something unexpected. This summer actually made me more interested in the idea and making me want to pursue it more on my own. I mean really, check out the stuff that Roland Szentpáli is doing with his tuba recordings, WOW!!
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Whoa!! Yall are too much!!
Scott did an awesome job as well on the mello solo. Performed it beautifully all season.
I think someone asked about that earlier in the thread.. There were one or two guys that said they tried to work it up during the winter camps, but gave up on it. I don't really know what would of happened if anything HAD happened, but thankfully nothing did happen. A lot of the baritone section aged out this year. 5 out of the 8 actually.
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Listened to the Gadsden version of the solo- If you've ever ridden the 90+ MPH "Phantom's Revenge" Coaster Kennywood Park, it's the bari equivalent of that. I was told I screamed like a little girl when I rode it from the near vertical 90 +MPH drop to the moment it stopped...
The question is, Is the Octave Divider basically a modern digital version of Ellis' analog Ring Modulator? If it's doing something similar, it's not a crutch.
-to play this solo, whether you're amped or not, you're in such an extreme register at times that you're playing it with your pedal to the floor anyhow. If you held back dynmaically and try to get coy or try and get conservative with the air column in the bari, you'll get a "Massive Epic Baritone Fail". I'm certain Patrick can back me up on that. He's not tryng to pinch it out at a whisper into the mike- he PLAYS the solo like a man.
You couldn't be more spot on with that statement! Any dip in air-stream and the notes just wont happen. The same goes with mental awareness, it just wont work without it. I'm not sure of the effect, you'd have to ask Doug Thrower for that one. I know he got the idea from a Tenor Sax player that uses it on one of his albums that utilizes 3 different effect pedals.
Also, if you check out the Atlanta Regional on the fan newtwork, there is another example of the solo ALMOST without effect... It's very faint, very baritone heavy.
PS: Thank you to all that have complimented!! It's very cool to read what people have to say about it.
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If you go to YouTube and search for the Gadsden, AL encore then you'll find one.
I think this might be the only recording out there of the solo WITHOUT the mic. The mic stand actually broke during the show, making me improv my position to maintain the effect. So that is why it isn't out there during the encore performance. Not the best quality video but again, it is probably the only one out there.
If you want to fast-forward, it starts at 7:52.
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Patrick,
So glad you had the experience you had these last few years. It made an old man smile seeing you being your BA self up there wailing away when i saw the broadcast in the theater. I was having some pretty bad shoulder pain that night, but I stayed long enough to see you play before leaving.
Proud of all you've done with yourself and your playing in your drum corps years. Can't wait to see where your professional life leads you.
Take care my young friend... and Kudos... you and your drum corps were awesome this summer.
Alan, this means more to me than you probably know. Thank you for being there in the beginning and sparking a mentality of excellence and passion for music.
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One or two others said they TRIED to learn it but gave up. So I suppose if I HAD gotten injured... it would of been switched to a synth solo and had someone fake it... or just have me chill on the sideline the entire show. THANK GOD I did not, that would of been a terrible age-out.
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Here is the Baritone solo from Asphalt Cocktail.
Try it out! It was an incredible experience working on and playing throughout the season. -
Tell you what, when the Bluecoats present the piece with ride cymbal rhythms and a continuous groove, I will admit I am incorrect in my assumption.
Until then I stand by my assertion.
Yes, because those two things solely define Jazz...
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not Regiment! ;)
Yeah Regiment just plays the same #### they have before. How many impact chords were exactly the same?? I lost count..
But I did seriously like Phantom 08 it was a great show, but you need to chill out. You are taking a statement of "something different" as "risking absurdity", two totally different meanings to those statements. One says, "I am going to reach into white space and attempt innovation", the second says, "I am going to do things that no one else does, because they go against any sort of logic that I can fathom".
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Yeah........I'm sorry that you are a Phantom hater, but the sound from the crowd reaction WAS much different for them than every other corps.
DVDs did the sound justice, and from quality of sound coming from the DVD, doesn't sound like they upped the mic levels or toyed with anything post-production in that respect.
Actually, in the Bluecoats show, did anyone else notice that it sounds like the levels were turned down right as the horns turn around for the Eye of The Tiger lick at the end of the bass drum feature?
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I believe the story is that he actually got hit by a car on either finals day or finals week.
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Agreed, visually VERY appealing. However, aside from velocity, the music difficulty did not go much beyond 8th notes.They were playing full out! At the end of their show! That takes a lot of air/endurance. I would say 16th note licks would be easier there as opposed to long sustained chords, which is what much of it was
Sorry I wasn't as clear, but I wasn't really considering how many notes they were playing, just what they were playing and taking in consideration how late in the show was fairly spectacular.
Also, the second quote that I have, the two things that came to mind about long sustains are Carolina Crown 2007 and Bluecoats 2008.. Crown's was not my favorite show, but to sustain a note for 32? counts is pretty difficult. Then Bluecoats do the same thing, but at the end of their show... again, pretty difficult
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Can you imagine the music they played with a Cavies or Cadets visual program? I can't. That said, it was designed to complement the music, not make you over look it.
If they were to go down the Cavies/Cadets visual path, it would be out of character for them and could possibly result in a less than stellar musical program. (I did say "could")
During visual moments of "to die for" effects, how often is there a difficult musical passage to go with it? (JMO)
The first that came to mind when I read that sentence was the "cross to cross" move in 91 Star. Absolutely love that move and there was a lot going on musically during it!
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Phantom's drill alone, was not that good. However, with the music, it was extremely effective... Drum corps today seems to base its' rankings on how effective the shows are... It isn't about how clean the drill is or how well the horn-line plays anymore...
If it had been like this about 10-12 years ago then the Madison Scouts would have two more championships under their belts based off of effect alone!
I give mad props to Phantom's show! I loved it! It was the most intense show I have seen in a while! Was their drill clean? No. Was their drill that good? No. Fortunately for them, it #### well worked with that show!
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I'd probably ask on the forums of the corps you plan to try out for to be sure. However, in my experience, I have never had to sight read anything for my auditions for corps. I can only speak for the two corps that I have marched, but I'm sure other corps' members can testify as well.
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Geez. I spend two months waiting every day for the CDs to arrive... and then when I finally listen to them it only makes me that much more anxious for the DVDs!
Of course, by the time my DVDs do get here, by then I'll be impatient for the 2009 shows to hit the field. A drum corps fan is never satisfied!
BTW, Bluecoats' intro is on there in full, with the emcee announcing the contest for the crowd. Gives me goosebumps! That back-beat behind him just makes me giddy.
You have made my day!
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Apparently, to the members that I have talked to, a rough draft of the documentary was shown to them this past summer and it was done pretty well. I have to say, I'm really looking forward to this release!
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Fair enough. Now with that established, were you running all over the place when you played it?
no, but I know that I can... and just for the record, I didn't say their show was easy, I just said Candide was easy..
Both arguments can go both ways. The lowest note Crown's tuba line played in 2008 was a low Bb. Some will say,"that is easy"... Others will say "that is smart writing"... It's all relative to your way of thinking. Personally, I do think that is a little easy! However, I definitely agree that it is smart writing. But let's be honest, drum corps books aren't really that hard when you are standing still. Even if you are running around playing runs all over the place and screamin' on double G's, by the end of the season it should be #### near perfect!! You've had it for three months practicing it everyday hours on end!!
For Sale: Getzen 'Titleist' Baritone Bugle
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Been holding onto this bugle for a few years now and I'm honestly ready to pass it on.
As stated in the topic title, it's a Getzen 'Titleist' Baritone Bugle (chrome, I believe). Piston-Rotary action (both function properly), minor dings/scratchs here/there, and it plays fine. The serial number is F23624, which according to www.musictrader.com/getzen.html, dates it between 1972-1975.
I've posted a few pictures for y'all. Asking $40 (taking best offer) and the buyer pays shipping.
Thank you!
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