Tusayan
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Not a big fan of Phantom. Loved the 89 show, but the music hasn't aged well, in my opinion (with the exception of Masquerade, which is a great song).
The Music of the NIght theme has aged well because Lloyd Webber stole it from Puccini.
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The second show was more aggressive.
That was big part of what made 89 better than 88.
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Then we had several controversial placements, with BD/Crown
How was this controversial? BD never lost to Crown, won every caption and won by more than a point. You might not like the result but there's no controvery here.
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You're right. The challenge has to be judged even if the core content isn't. I said (I think I said!) in a previous post that one of the lessons of this year (and several previous years) is difficulty by itself can't earn you credit. BD's successful formula for most of the past two decades has been to design shows that allow its considerable talent to max out execution.
The same can't always be said for Cadets, for instance, who have at times programmed more difficulty than the corps could manage artistically. So 2009 is a great example of two talented corps where one (BD) optimizes its execution where the other (Cadets) stretch for a score too far. Similarly in 2012, Crown over-complicated and therefore underscored a challenging program where BD met the challenge more completely. In both cases, the crowd wants content (program, design, likability, whatever you want to call it) to act as some score multiplier and give Crown, Cadets or whomever the edge. The problem with that is there's no such box on the judges' sheets. The judges can only evaluate achievement via execution. The content, in that respect, is irrelevant.
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Good observation. I'd compare it to Olympic ice skaers who think the only way they can win is with a move so complicated that they can't perform it cleanly and end up eating ice.
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FOR the record... You are not the only one. I just have a deep dislike for Rock-N-Roll shows.
The source material was rock and roll but that show had a jazz arrangement that was firmly in the Blue Devils' wheelhouse.
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BD can not do whatever they want. They can only do what BD can do. Avant guard drill design/music and jazz. They cannot do what Cadets, Crown, and Phantom have done. BD does a niche of drumcorps. BD could not pull off a Christmas show, or tell the story of Romeo and Juliet, or Be Superhumans. I think Crown and Cadets are more versatile drum corps. Just look at their themes year to year and styles of music! Uncomparable.
BD can't do a Romeo and Juliet show? They won prelims in 1998 with one and were 0.7 away from winning finals. Does that meet your standard for versatility?
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It has to be the current Blue Devils streak. Four titles in six years (very nearly 5 out of 6 and a four-peat) and three of those were perfect seasons. Nobody else has ever had a streak with that level of dominance.
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What were the numbers on PBS?
The total number was higher on PBS but was a more fragmented audience as not all stations carried the broadcast live and it was aired irregualarly over the next couple of months.
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the problem is that you can't give the 2nd to last corps to perform the maximum score, because what if the last corps to perform is better? You have to leave room for that possibility.
Unless of course, the outcome is decided before all the corps get a chance to perform...
Garfield went on next to last in in 87 and received perfect scores in percussion.
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cadets have done it and if I remember correctly it did hurt them competition wise.
It's tough to make the case that doing the Olympics hurt the Cadets in terms of competition. At their last show in Allentown before the Olympics
they lost to the Cavaliers. After the Olympics they didn't lose to the Cavies for the rest of season. In their first show after the Olympics they scored 2.5 points higher than their previous show and ended up only 0.5 behind the Blue Devils and Phantom at finals.
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I can't think of any examples in the last 20 years or so, so that's probably when the permissions became restrictive.
Mandarins did a show with Phantom Menace music in 2000.
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in other words, they lost GE Music to BD because their brass book was TOO EASY for their group. It's a rumor, but still.... Wow....
Not true. Crown won GE music by .15 and both Music GE judges had them winning over BD.
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Makes sense to have the logo there for those reasons but it takes away from the look, if you know what I mean.
No different from the logo on the field at Arrowhead Stadium or any other finals sites.
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To Lucas Oil Stadium
Do you really need the Indiana Colts emblem in the center field for the weekend? Seriously? Couldn't you just leave it green until Monday?
They do need the logo this weekend because the Indianapolis (not Indiana) Colts are playing there on Sunday with the Blue Devils as the halftime entertainment.
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I don't think it's that so much as it's that Devils don't want to be the typical check-your-brain-at-the-door corps. It's ok to have to think, and to have to dig into the show some.
Think of Devils as a nice, juicy steak with sides of veggies. Lots of flavor, with multiple layers. Not everyone loves a great steak created at the highest level, but steak lovers certainly do. Other corps are hot dogs or cheeseburgers or even a big fat bowl of ice cream.
The best meals have all that stuff. I don't want to see a show of twelve Madson Scouts corps. I'd rather see one Madison, one Cavies, one Phantom, one Devils. And Surf for a really fun dessert.
Very nice. Great analogy.
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Drum corps needs something like the Bridgemen around. Too many corps being serious, not enough being fun
Absolutely right. Drum corps hasn't been nearly as much fun since the demise of the Bridgemen and the original VK.
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Forgive me if this has been covered before but, in the past few seasons, I've noticed Brandt and the other announcers leaving off the "The" from corps names. For example, when introducing the corps, they say "Colts" instead "The Colts" or "Blue Devils" instead of "The Blue Devils". Obviously for corps like Carolina Crown, Phantom Regiment or Jersey Surf, it makes sense. With corps with the "S" on the end, it sounds odd.
Just curious.
This must be a recent change because in 2007 and 2009 finals BD was introduced as "the Blue Devils."
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I very much like where Crown is at right now.
You mean in 2nd place?
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...and if, somehow, some way the first 128 counts for the team from North Carolina can look/sound as phenom as the last 128, the big hardware might have to be loaded on a FedEx truck for the trip East. (BUMP if they can pull it off, kind of like Buster Douglas v Mike Tyson...and Tyson is still a bad mammajamma)
There are no DCI corps from North Carolina.
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Not sure which was worse, opening ceremonies or NBC's coverage. Probably the latter.
They were equally forgettable.
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You're welcome, I guess.
Random question - let's say a major US city (Chicago, for example, since that was in the voting last) gets to host the...2020 Olympic Summer Games, and the US Olympic Committee has decreed they want junior drum corps from DCI involved in the production of the Opening/Closing Ceremonies!
What would happen, in terms of scheduling? The Summer Games are held right in the middle of the season. Would corps take the time away from the competitive schedule to be involved? Not every corps could possibly be invited [or maybe they could be!
] so it's not as though the tour would stop for everyone, just the few invited. How would the corps deal with that? I'd like to think that the lucky corps would go for the opportunity to support their country, but given how packed the tour schedule is...I dunno. What are your thoughts?Won't happen for a couple of reasons. First, the USOC has nothing to do with the program or entertainment at the Olympic Games. That's detemined by the host city organizing committee. Second, the USOC has decided not to make any bids for the Olympics until the 2024 summer games and 2026 winter games.
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Garfield Cadets 1987 prominently featured a male ballet dancer throughout the show. Apropos for 'Appalachian Spring.'
It goes back at least that far - long before 'Cirque du Soleil.'
Cirque du Soleil started in 1984.
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Not sure I have the years right, but:
SCV - 1987 (Russian Christmas Music)
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BD did Bird and Bella in 91 but it wasn't their opener
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Everyone remembers who won. It would a more intesting test to ask who finished 2nd or 3rd.
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Could SCV be a dark horse?
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One week before finals in 1988 the Scouts were more than 4 points up on VK.