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  1. 53 minutes ago, SFZFAN said:

    Not really how it went down. Madison hired Mason (and company) for a set amount of years - Maybe 4? to help the Scouts and they did well. It was never meant to be permanent. 

    Exactly.  Mason was not interested in being there long term.  It was a 3-4 year project for him.  This is from people that were on that design team during the time. 

     

     

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  2. 15 minutes ago, HolyNOLA said:

    You can't be mad. This used to be a championship level corps. It's a joke now. 

    And to the other poster, no. They will not ever fully recover. Not sure phantom does either. Sad times we live in. 

    When was the last time they were at a championship level? 30 years ago?  They haven’t been in contention since. 

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  3. 30 minutes ago, ftwdrummer said:

    Hmm.

    It seems like a relevant comparison point might be a show that was controversial in its time and universally acclaimed today, vs something that was controversial when it came out but has become more appreciated as time goes on.

    So, Star '93 vs BD '12?

    (Or be mean and do Star '93 vs Bloo '16)

    Star ‘93 and Bloo ‘16 would be interesting since it was the same designer. 

  4. 2 hours ago, Poppycock said:

    They’re integrated perfectly into what might be the most entertaining production ever in the history of DCI. The guard is covering all the elements, equipment, dance, movement and color. The focus of the production is the entire pageantry and coherency of both visual and music. No other corps brings that level of entertainment so accessible to a broad audience. 

    I agree completely!  I absolutely love the guard presentation this year and it might be the strongest guard they've had this early!

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  5. 1 hour ago, Tommeee said:

    HOW is it possible that the Cadets thread is up to 169 pages, and today is the first time it was mentioned that Bobby Jones departed two weeks into spring training?  

    It’s been mentioned before in other threads.   Chris Johnston has been finishing the drill. 

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  6. 38 minutes ago, cfirwin3 said:

    Yeah.  There is also an unlikelihood as the Cadets organization slowly returns to functional normalcy.  Show designs are going to become more cohesive, staff longevity will return... I would be surprised to see their placement decline much further given the 'new normal' from the past several years.

    I argue that they are the type of organization with a draw for talent (performers, teachers and designers) that could easily pull of a 5+ placement rebound in one season.  They just need to experience stability.

    Blue Stars are awesome... but the notion of placement improvement depends not only on their awesomeness (at this point in their growth), but also on the marginal decline of others.  And as George said, that part of the equation is unlikely.  But sure, it's not impossible for the Stars to just break the mold in a given year.  It's happened before, but that kind of thing isn't usually predictable.

    I hope that Cadets get back to where they were quickly but even this season, there are changes going on internally.  It was asked before and never answered, but does anyone know why Bobby Jones was let go less than two weeks into spring training and the visual caption head is finishing the drill?   I hope it turns out great but I just worry that it’s not completely stable there yet. 

     

     

  7. I'll take a shot based on full-show videos or in-person views so far.    I have not seen the corps with an *.

     

    1. Blue Devils

    2. Santa Clara Vanguard*

    3. Boston Crusaders

    4. Carolina Crown

    5. Bluecoats

    6. Cavaliers*

    7. Cadets*

    8. Blue Knights*

    9. Blue Stars

    10. Crossmen

    11.Academy

    12. Phantom Regiment

    13. Mandarins

    14. Spirit*

     

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  8. 6 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:

    totally different environment when you're in a far smaller venue without 70 brass added to the equation.

    You’re right! Harder to hear clearly based on each facilty being indoors.  Since I’ve taught and/or designed in PIW and PSW for 10+ years, what you hear on the floor 5 feet away from a battery sounds much different in a gym halfway up the bleachers. There’s echo and different environmental factors of each room.  So if we REALLY care about understanding how clean they’re playing, then the only option should be to put judges on the floor! 

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  9. 6 hours ago, 2muchcoffeeman said:

    Sigh. I knew this would come up.

    Irrelevant.

    It's not whether it was the tic system, or the build-up system that replaced it.

    Okay? Let me say that again: THIS IS NOT ABOUT TICKS OR NO-TICKS

    (letting that sink in . . . . 1 . . . . 2 . . . . 3. . . . . 4 . . . . 5)

    Allright? Can we lave that behind now, please?

    The actual POINT is what motivates a 19-year-old who has sticks, ambition, and dreams. What motivates him or her to spend $5,000 to participate in DCI is the challenge to play ungodly difficult stuff as clean as snot, and to do it under pressure circumstances that no other activity provides -- namely, in front of highly skilled judges who will watch your every diddle (whether that judge employs a tear-down system or build-up system is BESIDE THE POINT). And which, when the test is successfully passed, certifies him or her as among the top marching percussionists On The Planet. Which is a certifiable big deal to 19 years olds with sticks, and is the reason why this activity exists: to provide an avenue to pursue excellence to those inclined toward music/dance performance.

    Don't get me wrong: Drummers love the show, they love the crowds, they love helping their corps achieve success, they love everything about the drum-corps experience. They're all about team success.

    But that isn't what motivated them to buy a plane ticket to their first audition. It isn't what motivated them to add 30 minutes to their practice session. It isn't what drives them to play their ever-lovin' practice pads every freakin' minute of the day, driving their friends, bandmates, teachers and parents to distraction.

    No. What motivates them to such ends is the challenge to excellence, the ne plus ultra of field percussion that only DCI has provided -- to nail it the most demanding, harshest evaluation environment ever devised for the idiom. There is no drug like it.

    The question going forward is whether DCI will continue to provide drummers with such a high bar.

     

     

    These same kids do WGI with a judge 30 yards away trying to hear them play through an amplified front ensemble and multiple speakers.  I definitely agree with you, put drum judges on the floor at WGI!!

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