Bucbari
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Every month or so someone starts up a new topic to the effect of "Shows you'd like to see!" or "Music that has never been done in drum corps"
so I got to thinking today about music that could not possibly be put on a drum corps field.
A few years back it wouldn't be so difficult because you could say something like "Atlas Ecpliticalus" by John Cage would never been seen on the field (the piece is for amplified orchestra)...however, as we all know, things change.
so I want to compile a list of music that, whether it be for practicality, or aesthetic, or some other reason, will never be tried out on a drum corps field.
I submit for the first entry the "Fingertips" series by They Might Be Giants off their album Apollo 18 -
"'Fingertips" is a series of twenty-one apparently unrelated short tracks ranging in duration from four to sixty-one seconds (although most of them are under fifteen), totalling four minutes and thirty-five seconds." - thank you wikipedia
a flash animation of all of the songs can be found here the fingertips project
there is just no way a corps could arrange these little snippets into anything coherent on the field.
There is no time in any of these to really develop any musical ideas, so there would need to be incredible help from the arranger to come even close to field worthy. Of course, this would destroy the original intent of the piece and make any arrangement essentially an original composition.
what else is out there that flat out would never work on the field?
I was going to say anything by Weird Al Yankovic but then if the old VK were still around they would have got to him eventually. I would agree with an earlier post about Schoenberg or maybe the Sex Pistols.
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Every month or so someone starts up a new topic to the effect of "Shows you'd like to see!" or "Music that has never been done in drum corps"
so I got to thinking today about music that could not possibly be put on a drum corps field.
A few years back it wouldn't be so difficult because you could say something like "Atlas Ecpliticalus" by John Cage would never been seen on the field (the piece is for amplified orchestra)...however, as we all know, things change.
so I want to compile a list of music that, whether it be for practicality, or aesthetic, or some other reason, will never be tried out on a drum corps field.
I submit for the first entry the "Fingertips" series by They Might Be Giants off their album Apollo 18 -
"'Fingertips" is a series of twenty-one apparently unrelated short tracks ranging in duration from four to sixty-one seconds (although most of them are under fifteen), totalling four minutes and thirty-five seconds." - thank you wikipedia
a flash animation of all of the songs can be found here the fingertips project
there is just no way a corps could arrange these little snippets into anything coherent on the field.
There is no time in any of these to really develop any musical ideas, so there would need to be incredible help from the arranger to come even close to field worthy. Of course, this would destroy the original intent of the piece and make any arrangement essentially an original composition.
what else is out there that flat out would never work on the field?
I was going to say anything by Weird Al Yankovic but then if VK were still around they would have got to him eventually. I would agree with an earlier post about Schoenberg or maybe the Sex Pistols.
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Sky Alumni will be there - seeya then..............
Playing Elks Parade?
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Maybe this will help you. http://trace.wisc.edu/docs/2004-About-dB/
Again, this science has been around since at least 1933 (Fletcher and Munson) if not before. You may not like me as the messenger, but that does not change the truth of the message.
And this has what to do with Phantom Regiment?
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How true....... on the DCA side, in 1977, one of our soprano players in Sunrisers dropped his horn when he brought it down to his side at the end of one tune at a show in August..... then, purely by reflex, he quickly picked it back up. Only problem.... the T&P judge was watching the entire thing. One tenth penalty for dropping the horn, one point for picking it back up.
The soprano player felt really bad about the whole thing. Then we found out that no one in the corps had ever informed him about the "dropped equipment" rules..... he was new to drum corps that season.
However, even with the penalties, we still managed to win that show. That helped ease the pain a bit.
But it was a lesson learned.... make sure the "newbies" know all the rules.Fran
ahh Ross forgot about him...lol..I think it was the Kingston show right Fran?
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Spirit of Atlanta, 1980, "Georgia on My Mind."
Game over.
Not even close!!!.. end of discussion.
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1980 Buccs were incredible................
One of the greatest ever Gary. But about Scranton. I just hope the hell they do some advertising this year because that was about as sparse a crowd as I've ever seen regarding last years show.
I can remember when I was on the grass that this was a great show and the stands would be packed.
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If so, when? How did you feel about it? If not, how would you feel if something like that happened?
This is for the old timers.
didn't Royalaires take a 1 point penalty in 68 at the VFWs or they would have beaten Kilties by a .1?
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I'm going to go back more then a few years because that part in my signature "and I'm old" is true.
Kilties 68, Aulde Lang Syne was my first "tears in my eyes" moment. It made me think "What have I gotten myself into"
Argone Rebels 1971, you had to be there to believe
27th 1980, specifically at Easts, was one of the greatest performances ever
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The 2008 version of the best placement polls has come to an end and thus the results have been made. Thanks to everyone who voted this year and made the poll a success for a 4th straight year.
2008 Poll Winners
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1st. '91 Star of Indiana
2nd. '93 Star of Indiana
3rd. '04 Santa Clara Vanguard
4th. '95 Madison Scouts
5th. '97 Madison Scouts
6th. '99 Madison Scouts
7th. '07 Bluecoats
8th. '07 Blue Knights
9th. '86 Sky Ryders
10th. '92 Velvet Knights
11th. '01 Madison Scouts
12th. '88 Sky Ryders
Now the only question I could possibly ask at this point is: How would you rank these 12?
Can't believe Phantom didn'ta win for 1989...mmmm....the best show ever not to win DCI IMHO
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*sigh* each season I miss my short time with Reading more and more .... my favorite and best corps I was ever with.
I'll second that...sadly...I miss marching in Bucs
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Okay guys and gals, let's have it. Tell others how rough you had when you marched. And yes this is ment to be in jest (or serious depending on your mood).
A good example is in the Aerobed topic when Steve was saying how rough it was when he marched (marched uphill both ways) and slepted (slept on rocks).
Then trumped by marching (had to shovel snow to get to our dot).
I'll start, we had it so rough we had to eat generic corn flakes, from those black & white boxes.
I hope people don't mind a Senior Story. We, the Sunrisers did a Jets game in December. We started the show and about half the hornline didn't play because the mouth pieces were frozen to our lips. It was only about 15 degrees. The things we did to raise money.
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Once again, Madison takes home the 6th place poll. Last year it was '96 Madison, but we have a new "superstar" this time around! Now for an even tougher round...
What was the best 5th place show of all time?
RULES
Wait till we get to 2nd place....that's going to really stir up a hornets nest...Can you say sc**w job and Phantom Regiment in the same line.
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97 Scouts
Easy...Royalaires 1968...just kidding....Have to go with Suncoast 86,,,a trykt memorable show.
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hummm I wonder how hard it would be if all the corps at the biggest east coast show ( besides finals ) got together and helped raised $ for Renegades to fly out for that show ..... I wonder how that would work ....
Oh my...my bucs aren't getting much love here. Oh well
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No....Barbara aged out with the 84 show. Don't know who was the 85 soloist....
Cadets 1984 opening to the exit
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Interesting about the charity event...were they trying to tell us something...I wonder
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Now that spring is rolling in and several corps have had several camps (some may even be putting drill on the field), what are some early predictions in terms of placement this year. Does anyone think that the Bucs will go for a 4-peat? How about the A class? Is it likely that we will see a new champion there this year?
As a side question - have any A class corps moved to Open class this year? If so, how do you think they will fall into place with these groups?
I know that the first competition is still several months away, so don't take any of these predictions too personally. All in good fun!
We have to have a new A class champ..Sun is not on the field this year.
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George Parks was always very accomodating in this way. Every once in awhile we got the command, "Eyes right!"
and the whole corps would turn to appreciate a lovely woman or young lady along the route.
Although, I certainly appreciate a pretty face, etc., I found it awkward and a little embarrassing to do this. Ladies didn't seem to mind, though - it was all in good fun.
And Nicko would go "Numbers" "Numbers"
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Ok, I say this a little tongue in cheek. I can (now) see the attraction/fun with doing some parades, but back when I was in a junior corps . . .
Let's just say that parades were something we had to be able to do field shows. (At least after the first few, and you'd experienced the hype of performing a field show).
And some of those parades were blistering hot. I remember once it was about 110 (and I don't mean on the blacktop where we'd be marching),
we marched with corps T-shirts instead of the standard cadet blouses. Even then it was rough. And I only had to carry a little soprano around, I remember
being concerned about the girl (can't remember her name) that was marching with a MARIMBA. That thing had to weigh a ton.
So now, as an ol - er, more seasoned person, parades are something to look forward to? Wow, it's funny how the outlook changes.
In fairness, I never looked forward to retreat either . . .
A few things about parades:
1. 110 Degrees in the shade - Bridgeport 1984
2. Seemed like 50 miles Bridgeport 1984
3. people saying "Play a song" Our response "Buy a record" Bridgeport 1984
4. Feet fried hotter then hades Bridgeport 1984
Hated this parade and will always hate this parade. Its only redeeming value was the beer after that torture session. Really kids it was worse then Boot Camp!!!
But I do have fond memories of Nicko going "Numbers, Numbers"
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I've been to the Alamodome to see the DCI show twice and thought it was a great venue. Who wants to sit outside in Texas in July for 12 hours? I'm going again this year -can't wait to experience that glorious air conditioning!
I survived boot camp in San Antonio during July. I still have heat streaks from that 8 weeks of hell.
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I have to say, even though I'm just 18, while it is addicting it also can leave you with a big hole in your life when you go back home. It's hard to sometimes relate to people who don't know what drum corps is, explaining how you got so fit, where the hell you've been during the summer, and trying to convey the idea of 12 hours a day of hard work. It's really fun but really becomes a part of you which can be both good and sometimes bad.
I remember September being the worst month of the year for these very same reasons...simply couldn't relate to what "normal" people do. "What no rehearsals?" "No shows?"
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I remember when I first started marching there were certain things that took along time to resolve.
1. Never seeing my family
2. Gave up all sports. I played football, soccer, basketball and baseball. I couldn’t seem to fit them in. Practicing for an hour and a half a day as well as rehearsal.
3. Gave up all my friends from school. We practiced every weekend back then and then it got heavier once April came around. It was #### near impossible to have a girlfriend if she didn’t march corps. What do you say, “see you in September”.
4. Had a disdain for my contemporaries. “What did you do this summer”? “I went to summer camp as a counselor. You?” “Oh I had shows all over the Midwest, Detroit, Boston, Philadelphia”.
5. Didn’t want to do anything but march and rehearse.
So my question is, and feel free to add anything else, Does drum corps have all the characteristics of a cult? It would appear that it has all the trappings of a religious cult. And is it addicting? I'm merely positing these questions because a critic of DCI once described it as monastic.
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Heh..... my nephew Chris is an avionics tech with the Army.... he works on Apache helicopters. He's in Iraq right now, but (at least for now) on a base out of harm's way, thank God.
Fran
Wayne's son?
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And I vote that we stop insulting people and get back on topic!!!