Daave
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Troopers 79 and 83. Their prelim performance of 79 is a thing of legend.
At the website for the documentary to be released this summer, you can see a trailer for the film.
http://www.americascoremovie.com/multimedia/trailers.htm
Go to the link for Teaser Trailer-First Generation. You will hear bits and pieces from a judges tape from that performance.
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Not sure if this one counts or not.
It is copied from the Troopers webboard from May 27 (with permission of the author).
"Last Saturday I took a 14 year old young lady who wants nothing more that to be in the Trooper Guard to watch camp in Laramie. I introduced her to many wonderful and knowledgeable people that many of you are familiar with, Traute, Sean, Mike Ottoes, and Mark Crimm to name a few as well as Casey Knopp's parents. She met with Jeff, the guard caption head, and she told him of her desire. Later that day, he approached her and invited her back to “spin” with the guard for a day and to see if she liked it. She had tears in her eyes when she told me how much it meant to her to have him approach her and ask her to spend a day with them (sight unseen). Her background is in dance and at 14 she has no guard experience but was so excited. On the way back to Cheyenne, she had already made her decision.
Early on Monday we returned to Laramie and she joined them in several hours of dance, followed by spinning flags. Until that day, she had never picked up a flag. For the next six hours, she tried her best to learn and to keep up with the others. Unfortunately she was too far behind the learning curve, but she never stopped. As they continued, she stood in the back and tried to master this new craft. When they were told to roll up the flags and drop for push ups, she rolled up her flag and dropped beside them, when the instructor stopped to talk with them, she listened intently trying to ingest as much of the information as possible. Again it was far too much for her. Later in the day, as they met to be given their spots in the blocks in the show, she was still there, watching, absorbing and learning.
We eventually had to leave and she left with tears welling in her eyes. I was so proud of her and I hope that this experience has steeled her for next year’s tryouts (as soon as Dad can find someone to help her with a little flag work). She was pretty sore this morning, but had a spring in her step as she left for school.
I just wanted to thank Jeff and Adrienne as well as the other ladies, (and one young man), in the guard who took the time to talk with her, try and help her, sit and answer her questions and take her to eat lunch. (She LOVES PBJ’s)!!!
They all indeed showed what Honor, Loyalty and Dedication are, in her eyes and mine.
It’s too bad that they no longer present the colors. I think she could have handled that and I know a certain 14 year old that would have been honored this year to have been on the field for the 50th anniversary.
We will be in the stands in Cheyenne and at DATR rooting you on and waving our yellow handkerchiefs. Until then… Until next year’s tryouts…
Thank you all again."
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"No, absolutely not."
So to make sure I understand your position here:Using electronic devices to change the pitch of an acoustic sound in a drum corps show is not only allowed by DCI rules, but is also in the spirit of the activity?
Basically, since it was okay for BD to change the pitch of a spoken voice, it's also okay the change the pitch of anything else fed through a mixing board. Including amplified instruments.
That is the precedent being set, and the precedent many people are concerned about. That is the issue being discussed. You don't think that is a valid issue?
Oh, man.... Ray Charles could sooooooooooooo see the response to this one coming.
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After awhile you just kind of know which posters would react in a certain way. DCP doesn't really surprise me at all anymore, people's biases, conspiracy theories, traditional/progressive, anti/pro DCI stances are very evident, including my own.
To those who continue to want to be Mulder and Scully and seek the truth go for it. Have any of you tried to contact BD or DCI or just come on here and gripe. As far as I'm concerned neither DCI or BD owes you any explanation.
Great comedy to start off my day and birthday weekend though!
I dunno... I always enjoy a good "Rabbit Season" "Duck Season" debate.
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DrumCorps2008- "I'll huff and I'll puff, and I'll blow your house down!"
Mellophone2008- "Not by the hair of your chinny, chin, chin!"
"Rabbit Season..."
"Duck Season..."
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The producer/director of this film effort is a former Drum Major of the Troopers. It's a safe bet he knows the difference... he lived it.
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Forgive me, but why dangle a financial incentive for corps to be irresponsible, knowing they could get bailed out?
Hey, it worked for the airline industry... (shrug)
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I knew there was a name for that debate technique, now I know.
Thanks.
No problem. It's why I get paid the big bucks. Fives and fives of dollars... every month!
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Welcome to debate, DCP style. If the run of rhetoric is against you, bend the topic to suit your position.
Debate any style, actually. It's all straw...... man (Ok, couldn't refuse the pun)
"A straw man argument is a logical fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is to create a position that is easy to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent. A straw-man argument can be a successful rhetorical technique (that is, it may succeed in persuading people) but it is in fact misleading, because the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted."
One can set up a straw man in the following ways:
1. Present a misrepresentation of the opponent's position, refute it, and pretend that the opponent's actual position has been refuted.
2. Quote an opponent's words "out of context" -- i.e., choose quotations that are not representative of the opponent's actual intentions.
3. Present someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, refute that person's arguments, and pretend that every upholder of that position, and thus the position itself, has been defeated.
4. Invent a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs that are criticized, and pretend that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
5. Oversimplify a person's argument into a simple analogy, which can then be attacked.
Based on their point of view, the poster will usually argue that the opposition falls into one or more of these categories.
Anywaysssssssss, just me thinking out loud.
"MY BRAIN HURTS!!!!" ~D.P. Gumby (Monty Python)
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I can't be the only one thinking that we still don't know who the six that will be elected are? The possiblity still exists that the "top six" will be elected. I mean, c'mon... we still still could have some hangin'chads around here somewhere.
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I am a Police Officer by vocation... more specifically an investigator for my department.
In my line of work, I have what I call the "German Shepherd Theory". When you can present a situation, not unlike this one, to an outside observer(s) with no stake in the discussion or it's outcome.... and that observer cocks their head and looks at you like a German Shepherd and says, "That's (insert the intrasitive verb of your choice)", then odds are that it is (again, insert your word of choice).
I put this to the test with my co-workers in the unit. They were given no specifics, just the situation. I had a room full of German Shepherds.
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Shouldn't that be "hop at the opportunity to defend..." given the subject of who we are talking about?
Awww, man.... I totally missed the opportunity at the obvious pun. Thank you
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Interesting that most of the posters who jump at the opportunity to defend, and genuflect at the altar of all things Hopkins, have avoided this thread... so far?
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... What I'm still working on is trying to find out how the Goodyear Blimp is going to be employed.
They can't, there hasn't been a proposal (functional illiteracy notwithstanding) to allow blimp's..................... yet.
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From another forum:
"I believe that, together... we can build a slip and slide."
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Chuck,
I was right there with ya brother -- in the snareline you couldn't hear ;-) But, I guess we had a diff of opinion. I didn't think anyone -- us included -- had a chance in hell of catching BD. Definitely not a knock... just thought BD was that good.
By the way, gotta throw some props your way. SCV's drumline rep back then was built on fantastic snarelines... 73, 74, 75... 78, 79. It's what made me want to march SCV. Yet, without a doubt, the stars of those early to mid 80's SCV drumlines were the Cater taught Bass lines. The quality of sound you guys produced was fantastic. I just finished up digitizing a bunch of old drum corps recordings and, while listening to '82, I couldn't stop focusing on the Bass line. You guys were really, really good!!!
Rob Carson rocks.
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Were there issues, I doubt that they would have made the two additions to staff they announced in the last two days.
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Fully functional, 10 1/2 pound M-1 rifles with fixed bayonets.
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...the more I listen to that show, the more I think they got shafted a bit during the season.
...from your lips to any of the judges ears.
Shafted a bit is putting it lightly. Let us hope that the 50th anniversary show is better received, at least by the judging community.
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That bothersome safety word, again.
"Won't someone please think of the children!" (Sorry, just channeled Maude Flanders there for a moment)
Allow me a strawman moment, please...
Ya know, there are young men and women in harm's way in places like Iraq and Afghanistan right now (many of which who are the same ages as the young men and women whose safety that was being looked out for last night) They live and breath safety everyday, so that they can see the next day.... I would wager a bet that they would have loved to have been on a field of manicured grass last night in southern California and not have to have worried about safety.
Perspective and what not, I suppose.
Not trying to make anything political... Just sayin'
And now, I can take my afternoon medication :)
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Unsafe???
It's grass, for cruds sake!
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1. While it's certainly unfortunate for Troopers that they were set to perform 2nd, it was based on an averaging system that was decided and agreed upon by directors as far back as February.
2. Looking at the show-to-regional score drop to which you're referring (Hutchinson to Denver), it's pretty apparent that the score in Hutchinson was more likely to be the scoring fluke. Up to that point, Troopers had been in the 73/74 range. In other words, try looking at Troopers' scoring tendencies for all shows leading into Denver EXCEPT for Hutchinson...I think you'll find that their Denver score wasn't too far off from what could be expected.
3. I don't have much of an explanation for why the spread between Troop and Cascades opened up, but I'll take a couple guesses. It's more than likely that Cascades also had the "show of their lives" yesterday, boosting their scores in various captions. Also, if you look at the Denver regional, the spread between Troopers and Cascades is similar (a BIT smaller, but not by much). It would also be interesting to look at the particular judging panel from yesterday and see how they've scored both corps this season. For example, Marie Czapinzki judged GE Visual both last night and at the San Antonio regional. She had a clear distinction in score between Cascades and Troopers at both shows. Her number at yesterday's show made up for a full point of the spread alone.
How would one explains these numbers that are based on score improvement between Denver/Indy and Tempe/Stanford, then?
Troopers...6.275
Cascades...4.325
Mandarins...3.95
Pac Crest...3.5
Southwind...2.7
Pioneer...1.725
and then square that with a 3(+) point drop for quarters?
I know it's rhetorical... but in the immortal words of Joe Dirt, "Daaaaaaaaaaang!!"
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I'm 'offended' that a two point penalty can be reversed by a hissy fit if I may be so hypocritical.
I'm soooo deeply ofended that DCI repaints yardlines and OMFG! forgets to paint hashmarks! according to the athletic director of God.
I find it funny that the corps who wins visual marched before the Cadets band and won with no hash marks.
The land of the free......... and the home of the offended.
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I cannot believe I am actually defending George...
With the content of drill demand the Cadets have safety is an issue...and if they cannot see the lines for their pic points, then you will have collisions. And yes, members can get injured doing these drills.
Now, he did make a horse's rear out of himself...but he did have a point.
I stand by my last sentence.
I'm not saying that performers can't be injured, but I doubt that was at the top of the list of priorities when the "safety" card was played.
Drumline Numbers?
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Wow! Last week I watched a 10/4/5 rehearsal. Three snares in less than a week???