dugada
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Congrats BD! Keep it going.
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" I think that BD has somewhat plateaued and all there is left now to do is clean. Just my .02". Gotta love DCP. No, the BD show will continue to grow to the end as designed. It's a very organic design. They may not win but plateau is not a concern. Hopefully you can see the show live, it's quite spectacular and detailed. I do look forward to seeing Cadets live at Indi and anticipate a powerful presentation.
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76.65 SCV. 79.5 bd
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Yup, very full stands. BD on fire! SCV very loud. PC encore scores soon.
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Its only July 9th. BD has a great show that has room to clean and grow and is scoring in the top 3. They also have one of the most experienced staffs that know how to maximize and peak at the end of the season. I'm not making any predictions as the competition is great, but I think this makes BD a very dangerous corps indeed.
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Lot's of smart people here and yet nobody considers the economics of the small drum corps show sponsor.
*Mid week show in small stadium does not have the potential to draw a huge crowd with high ticket prices. Especially when you are competing with big shows on the weekends.
*Stadium rental cost and other logistic expenses to put on a show. Schools do not provide these things for free and it is not cheap.
*DCI contract. Covers judges and payment to the corps and other overhead. How many top drum corps are in your show determines the contract price significantly.
Consider that SCV or BD not attending a show and forgoing a show fee may be allowing the show sponsor a chance at not losing money or being able to put the show on at all. The visiting top draw corps also needs as many opportunities as they can to offset tour costs and these small show provide a pay day and incentive to travel west.
When disputing what I have wrote, please indicate your participation and knowlege of sponsoring a small mid week show. I have been involved with small independent group show planning and the chance of losing money is very real. You need to be smart in all things drumcorps related including the economics of it all.
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For a corps that is accused of not being entertaining, there seems to be endless discussion about their shows with a great deal of history, reseach and theory being offered. I hate it when that happens. :rolleyes:/>
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I'm so proud of my corps and others that sponsor these groups. I loved the excitement and waiving to their family and friends in the stands before the show starts. PURE JOY OF PERFORMANCE!. And on top of it there are a couple moves that would take me a while to get my head around. Well done.
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I know the point of the DaDa movement was supposed to be anarchy and chaos, but is adding stuff just to be jarring and out of place really the best way to reach the mass fan base? I'm not the first person to be saying that they don't like the narration.
Well, my college professors say I'm on my way to educated, but I don't have my degree yet
I enjoy your posts. So angry and jarring.
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That's edjumacated, Doug!
You said it brother. The show concept is really not that hard to understand. Sure you can go pretty deep if you want to or just understand that dada is pretty much opposite of what you might expect. I think it’s a fantastic show live that is strong in every caption. I’m also a fan of the simple beauty and story of Phantom. SCV is always a favorite and getting stronger. I can’t wait to hear Crown and even though its deeply ingrained in me to dislike, I might even sing a Christmas carol or two before the season is done.
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I'm with you. I don't like the stuff, I think it's jarring and out of place. But some people like it I guess. Maybe it just means we're un-educated and jealous of their success?
Jarring and out of place. Just a little bit of research and you may find that you actually are educated.
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I find it very amusing that people automatically place BD at 1 or 2, irregardless of their opinion of the show, or if they have even seen or heard it. I understand
history, stats etc but corps dont stay at the top forever. Do I think they will fall to 6th place, absolutely not, but to put them so far up seems to say that no
other corps can clean,tweak and refine shows and pop up. Corps do reign for awhile but not forever. Who would have thought Cavies would be out of the top 3 eight years
ago. Even the most successful staffs miss on design once in awhile. That list goes on forever.
When you consider that all the top corps have not met in the same show yet, these predictions are suspicious anyway. (watching on fan network does not count). With that said as of July 4 there have been enough shows and scores to see that Crown, BD and Cadets are at the very least contenders for the title. History also shows the BD is not a corps that fades as the season continues. I'm not going to make any predictions in this tread as I have not seen all the corps live, but it is very reasonable to place BD in the hunt for the championship amongst others. If this were May I would agree with you.
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I knew that this show needed a visual component to bring if fully to life. I have seen run through's and thought I knew what to expect. Watching tonight in full uniform under the lights I was blown away at the difference. The excitement, energy and visual package is amazing! This will be another fantastic year for the Dev's.
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I'm not a sop player but from what i've heard.
2 valve: King K-20 Soprano
3 valve: Kanstul 102 Powerbore Soprano
not sure about P/R bugles.
I own both of these horns and could not agree more! I think the K-20 is the best but not having a 3rd valve has limitations. Play high enough and that doesn't matter.
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Releasing in December. I'm no composer and probably would know how to operate a 10th of the power of this program but I cannot wait to have this world class DCI hornline at my fingertips!
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I get so bored of the California fans #####ing about their seasons or depending upon the rest of the country, mainly mid-west corps to prop up their shows and circuits. You have several world class corps but seem to only be able to keep 2 of them at the top level, why? Seems to me because the California scene is a few really hard core fans and not much else…it's up to you to developed and grow your own scene and it seems the California scene is only interested in the best of the best…which by definition is finite….I have little sympathy for the California fans that only step in the stadium for G-8 corps…there is a lot more too drum corps than them
And no disrespect to some of the California fans that are out there working really hard, beating their heads against a wall with all the smaller corps trying to get over this fan snobbery which severally limits the California scene
Get your own house in order Cali-fans, your state is so big, so great than why can't you do better for yourself?
Only other way is to greatly jack the ticket price and bleed the Cali fans for their fix
Cali sends their corps to the Midwest and East every year at great expense. Please tell us the local shows you like to attend. Perhaps the California corps will make sure not to "bore" you with their pressence. Don't worry, it wont wont affect your attendance numbers because you have your house in order.
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If looking for marching brass, take a look at the System Blue line of King horns. The history and quality of Conn Selmer coupled with the design input of one of drumcorps most successful brass staffs make these well worth your investigation.
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I agree!
But I would like to make a comment about BD since someone mentioned them; it seems the last several years it doesn't matter what the design team or instructional staff feed the marching members of BD -- those kids chew it up and peform the heck out of it! It took a geniously designed show from the Cadets 2011 to knock BD down a peg.
There have been shifts in some design staff but your elite group (we all know who there are) are still intact. Cadets have already announced their 2012 show, does that put them
ahead of the game?
Irving
Fan of the Arts
I would say that BD's show grew to the very end of the season. I had them on top but that does not take away from Cadets as the shows had different strengths. The point is that the BD aproach allows both staff and members talents continually evolve through the season as 2011 clearly did. I think Cadets show selection for 2012 is fantastic! I also think BD will not settle on a final idea unti late in the spring once they fully know the talent of the members and staff. Two approaches, both successful.
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1. design staff
2. instructional staff
3. members
Don't forget "support staff". A well run organization provides all staff and members the tools they need while being well rested, well fed and safely delivered to all destinations. Members and staff with freedom and energy to be creative is powerful indeed.
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Congratulations MBI and Govies. Huge showing from the mid-WEST!
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MBI has a boat if it gets real bad.
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Heck, we're even letting the politicians speak. When we do full retreat in the rain we do FULL retreat.
I hate that even in good weather.
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The Renegades are wearing Burger King paper crowns ... in honor of Rich Skare (RIP).
That is great. Photo please!!!! I think Rich is the 7th sense.
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It's DUMPING on everyone. Most corps got their plumes off.
Renegades are keeping their plumes on. That's the way they roll.
Happy Blue Year
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