BlooContraGuy
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I though we knew well enough by now that if you want get any meaning from scores, that the individual number means nothing. It's the spread between numbers that's more significant.
I meant to click the +1 for this, but honestly my thumb slipped!
This is the truth! The number of one corps' score means next to nothing! It's all about how one corps performance relates to the corps before and after it, therefore, the spreads are the key. Any caption scores within 0.3 of each other is a virtual tie. That means that the judge recognizes that if they were perhaps standing at a different spot on the field - or if the corps lined up and performed again - they could have flipped placements in that judge's caption.
If you look at the finals caption scores last year for brass
Blue Devils:.19.80
Cavaliers:....19.40
Bluecoats:...19.30
Crown:.......19.20
Cadets:.......19.10
There is an obvious gap of 0.4 between the Cavaliers and BD, showing that the judge believed there to be an obvious gap in the brass performance between the two groups. Between the Cavaliers and the next three corps, there is only a 0.1 point difference between each of them! That judge is telling us through scores that they believed them to be so very close that if they were to line up again, there could have been a change in their opinion of placements.
All of these scores are good! But the numbers don't matter. The space between is where the true information lies.
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Thats because Crown doesn't have the tradition that other corps have. They're still the new kids on the block and in my opinion, have huge egos for a corps that hasn't even come close to winning yet.
Second is close. You could have just said "a corps that hasn't won yet." Thats kind of a punk move to say that.
Though I have to say that I agree that they are a relatively new corps. That is a quantifiable fact. (roughly) 20 years is a lot less than 76 years.
And egos aren't bad unless they go unchecked. I haven't personally had any terrible experiences with anyone affiliated with Crown, so I can't say that I know about any "huge egos' they may or may not have.
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I know a few people who have done 6 or more years. One of them marched Glassmen and Bluecoats for a total of 8 years. One of them is in his sixth year with the Bluecoats for 2011 and aging out. There are still "super-vets" around.
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Don't the Blue Devils usually wait til like...
July?
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No Madison or Blue Knights lol. they just took the year off.
That is almost as plausible as the the rest of their list.
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Any corps who is obviously better than a corps participating in the ToC will get their credit. Judges are usually ok at getting things generally correct.
Just like always.
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Technically, the only thing that the bluecoats have announced is that we'll be using a Mackey piece. Nothing about the show, or the rest of the music. Which is less than the Blue Stars who are on this poll.
Anyway, I voted for BD
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I know that the gold horns last year were hardly a coincidence, but yes, I honestly believe that entertaining the audience is a very very high priority. I know someone fairly high up in the organization and every year that I ask him about the summer production, he tells me how much he thinks the fans will love it before anything else. I don't doubt that Crown would love to win a championship, but I just don't think that it's the first thing they think about when designing a show. Just my opinion, though. I could be wrong.
I think that both winning and entertaining the audience come into play for everyone. Though, I don't believe that anyone actually thinks "how can we make this boring?" when they're designing a show. It's just that some have different ideas of "exciting" than others. The designers and staff at Crown certainly know how to make things exciting for the people in the stands.
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Off season information is nothing more than a way to get fans hyped and excited. Which is a pretty good thing I think.
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Well, Crown certainly came out strong last year. They had their own little undefeated streak going on until Akron (I think). Of course, the Blue Devils were far, far away.
And the Cavaliers didn't start too hot this past year, but that didn't stop them from ending in 2nd.
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it will be interesting to see what impact (if any) the new schedule will have on the season. Will the finish order on 6/18 be same as the order on 8/13?
Probably not, but that would be interesting if it was the exact same for the top 8 at the beginning and end.
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A good way to understand the term “accessible” (at least how I believe it's being bandied about on these boards) might be to imagine a conversation of a DC design team laying out the first run through:
Designer #1: “OK, here’s where we visually state the confusion and depression of the musical moment……atonal effects and a dark departure reflected in the dissonance, then….”
Designer #2: “Wait a frickin’ minute….we can’t put that artsy crap in here….no one’s gonna understand it, it’s far too dark and inaccessible! You know these DCI crowds! They have the attention span of a kangaroo rat and musical range of a juice harp!”
Designer #1: “Accessible? You mean like 4/4 time? Look…I’m trying to create a mood here that shows the highs & lows of musical & visual emotion; deep fractures, then beautiful resolve, so……”
Designer #2: “Oh, please! Spare me the Philip Glass interprets Mahler bit….have you looked at the stands lately? That thousand yard stare?….it’s confused brain cells colliding like bumper cars! We need to do the familiar… long phases so their brains can imprint and process the sound!”
Designer #1: “I quit!”
Designer #2: “Fine, don’t let the door hit you in the ###!” “Now, where was I? Oh, yes…. company front and simple gifts!”
hahaha awesome.
Way to make a point in a new, fun and interesting way.
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if you really want to see the real cadets check out the garfield cadets learn from your ancestors sorry if the truth hurts
I know I have moments where I lack tact... but wow.
I hope you can learn how to cheer up sometime very soon.
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Failure No. 1
Failure No. 2
OK, so both failures point back to the staff/implementation.
You're officially excused. I'm sorry your experience led you astray.
Bruckner, you always know how to put a smile on my face. I think you and I might get along.
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If finals were a week later….the heat wave would’ve passed and the dome could have been opened for quarters and beautiful music would have gushed out into the high heavens where is would have reached a plane full of UN delegates who would have been so inspired….that by now we’d have world peace, ended hunger and drum corps would be bigger than Football (American and European combined) and all the DCI corps, marchers and staff would be treated like royalty, given gobs of cash, private islands, reality TV shows and live happily ever after…
If you’re going to dream, dream big !
If only! Life would be perfect.
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Stadium lights!!
Not sure they still do this at Regiment, but that was it for us.
It's funny to see all the people mentioning sleeping or napping on the bus on the way to a show. In the majority of the corps I marched with, sleeping on the way to competition was very much not allowed. The reasoning was that they were worried you'd wake up groggy and not be at your best. Not saying either way is right or wrong, just found it to be an interesting contrast.
That's certainly a good reason to not take naps, but I think it just comes down to the individual and how their body acts after sleep. I think it's everyone's responsibility to do all they can to be ready for the show. For some that is taking a nap. For others, it's staying wide awake.
Whatever works!
P.S. I think our guard wasn't allowed to take naps on the way to shows for a little while because of a few of them being groggy once... or something like that. I don't really remember.
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Seven a.m., Hop and Cadets waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta get to the food truck.
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein' everything, the time is goin'
Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin'
Gotta get down to the bus for the show
Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends. . .
Its awesome that america is making fun of that video at every chance it gets. Even DCP! love it.
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1. Academy: Little Fugue(Bach) + Lux Aurumque(Whitacre) + Lollapalooza(John Adams) = Potential top 12 show
2. Blue Devils: I'm friends with a tech over there and he has been telling me that their show this year will be entertaining to everyone and that people won't walk out on their performances this year...
3. Phantom Regiment: Elsa's Procession to the Cathedrial(Wagner) is one of my favorite pieces.
Has this really happened? ...yikes. I wouldn't want anyone to get up and leave while I perform, so I won't be doing that to anyone else (unless something more important than drum corps is going on and I have a good reason to leave).
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I have a few songs that get stuck in my head from time to time.
You know those times your not thinking of much, and BAM, the Sop rip from 1989 Phantom starts playing in your head and you can't stop it.
The 2 I've had lately are;
1989 Blue Devil opener - that ferocious horn line
2010 Bluecoats opener - just a wall of sound
What are yours...
You beat me to it! That is one of my favorite movements I've ever performed.
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Bloo...this is the year when we see if they are the real deal.
A la...Crown 09/10, Bloo 06/07, Boston 00/01
The follow up year is definitely a challenge!
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It's not official until the corps announces it and the owner of the copyrights grants them permission to use it.
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Crown Horn Bus singing "Bohemian Rhapsody" worked like a charm every show!
Our vet bus would sing along to Don't Stop Me Now all the time, Queen is such great hype music.
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1. Teal Sound - I'm marching my rookie year with them! (Go ahead, flame me for guitars)
Otherwise
2. SCV
3. Cadets
You'll have a great summer! Michael Lopez is a good guy and will not lead you astray as your drum major.
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Multi-year Vets in Today's DCI
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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There are still a good amount of them in DCI.