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32 minutes ago, FTNK said:
I think shakos are necessary; I know ditching headgear is en vogue, but BD is doing ok...
This.
The Cadets fully become The Cadets when the shako goes on. When I marched Phantom Regiment in the 90's, when the helmet went on, it was go time. Any other time, we were laughing and joking, but when we geared up with the helmet, get out of the way because the Phantom Regiment is here.
The shako puts the mindset that The bad@ss Cadets have arrived, both in the audience watching and the MM's themselves, I'm sure.
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1993 Phantom Regiment. Was THE show that got me hooked on drum corps. Yeah, I got to know Star of Indiana 1993 and Cadets 1993 and love them both, but I was wide-eyed sitting in the floor totally enthralled by Regiment.
Good memories. Making me remember my first years of high school band and how I knew I would march drum corps one day.
(sorry I can't name 10 things)
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Not cluttered on the field at all!!! (Please note the sarcasm). Supposedly the biggest marching band in the US. 800 members
Bonus- HS band doing a little 2011 Cadets.
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Nice little zoo in Hattiesburg that's inexpensive and great for the kids if you get in town early. You can see the whole zoo in maybe 2 hours.
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Just now, littlejaw said:
Any increase in corps size would require the addition of another member bus. Currently at 150 members, there are 3 busses for the corps. Think of all the extra costs associated with that. Bus driver, gas, insurance, bus rental, etc. doesn't make economical sense to me for drum corps.
Agreed. But I'm sure they'll increase the number at some point, though who knows if any corps even want to add MM as of right now. Logistics aside, how big can each corps get before it becomes too many?
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With Regiment sacrificing hornline for guard this year, it got me thinking...
if staging and Blast style shows are the move DCI is making, could they up the total amount of members for each corps? What would the cut-off be? 170? 200? How many is too many? Would it hinder drill at some point?
Watching Regiment take the field with 30 contras would be bad-### though...just a thought.
$.02.
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I have no problem with this show, though I will concede that it does not seem to be along the same lines as what the top 3 ( or 4, maybe 5) are doing. I think this show would've been very competitive in the 90's, moderately competitive in the mid-00's, but with what is happening today in drum corps, Blast style shows are what's in....maybe. It may change tomorrow. Who knows?
I dig the show though, for what it's worth.
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How long until corps start using a variation of this type bus to travel with? Will it help? Better rest, better rehearsal? Is floor time, where a corps member can actually stretch out, that big of a deal? When I marched in the mid 90's we got a good portion of our sleep on the bus, floor time was awesome if we could get it...
Bonus question..would this make housing sites change? Now all you need is a field and showers. No need for a gym floor.
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On 7/6/2015 at 8:42 AM, rmurrey74 said:
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1995-1999 Phantom Regiment. Loved wearing the black uniform.
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Roderic Saunders - early/mid 90's Phantom Regiment.
Tommy (Andre) Feagin - late 90's Phantom Regiment. Marched with him in '98. Hell of a conductor and a great guy.
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The value of travel as the best education. I lived a relatively sheltered life in south Mississippi before drum corps (overprotective religious zealot parents who never did really approve of my drum corps years, but that's a story for another day) and my two years at Phantom Regiment were a coming of age for me. Learning about people that I never would have been able to meet otherwise and seeing the country, albeit via stadiums, gym floors, and football fields, were some of my greater memories. 2017 makes 20 years since I marched, and I still get misty-eyed thinking of the experience.
Now I just have to get my kids to follow suit so I can be a drum corps dad!!!!
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So, I just had a dream that DCI issued a new rule that, for the foreseeable future, all lateral movement on the field HAD to be done with a crab step, no matter what section of the corps was moving.
Not sure if that would be ridiculous, or look cool as hell!!! Lol
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No, but it would be around 65 degrees for the high temp in January down here on the Gulf Coast when I would leave, and by the time I got into Rockford, is was maybe 15 degrees for the high temp, if it even went that high. And lots of snow!!!!1000 miles uphill in the snow, in both directions.
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I drove 1000 miles, one way, for camps at Phantom Regiment when I marched back in 97-98. From the bottom (any further south and you're in the Gulf of Mexico) of Mississippi to the top of Illinois. 2000 miles in three days is strictly for the young. My old ### couldn't do that now if I tried. Lol
It was a blast at the time, though.
Btw, wasn't a music major.
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What does a 150 marching member corps have for busses these days? 5 plus a staff bus? With the Scout Cavalier Regiment SuperCorps, they'll need around 15 member busses plus around 3 staff busses. Make it 20 busses for good measure.
Meh.....no logistical problem at all. Lol!!
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Whats it gonna be...36 or 42 tubas ?
Why not an even 50?
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' Gotta get a bigger boat.... ....opps........ busses.
All the busses will be double-decker busses. And twice as long....of course they will have to be custom built, but it's innovative and trendsetting!!!! Lol
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Phantom Regiment, Cavaliers, and Madison Scouts are merging to form a SuperCorps with combined memberships of 450 marching members. Will be performing jazz versions of classical music with symmetrical kaleidoscopic drill.
It's gonna be great!!!!!
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Glad you feel better getting that off your chest. Another internet warrior getting angry. Glad you didn't "let me off the hook." I'm sure you're a blast at parties. Have a good day. I'll get off your lawn now.I agree with the part about "nonsensical rambling". Aside from that:
- I am less than impressed by someone posting declarative statements as if fact, thinking that following it up with "just my $.02" gets them off the hook. If you want to post opinions, feel free... but use appropriate language, like "in my opinion", "IMO", or "I think".
- Curious what you were thinking when you said "99% of the old timers will continue to pay for a ticket". Based on my range of acquaintances, observations and attendance trends, I think some long-term fans stick around and some have left, with neither side anywhere near 99%. (Latest pertinent data on this was a survey commissioned by DCI where they found the average fan follows the activity for less than four years.)
- Yes, some aspects of drum corps change, while others stay the same. Therefore, IMO, we should expect some people to lose interest in it, while others remain. I think anyone who embraces change ought to accept that up front.
- No, the glory days are not always the days when you marched. It is a common sentiment, but not universal.
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What is "old school" ??? pre-DCI, 70's, 80's, 90's, last century, this century. DCI is approaching 50 years which is double the lifetime of current marchers.
When I marched in '97-'98, we thought the guys who marched in the '70's were old school, and the guys that marched in the pre-DCI era were "ancient." Lol.
I guess that means the 90's are old school now and the 70's are ancient.
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What is "old school" ??? pre-DCI, 70's, 80's, 90's, last century, this century. DCI is approaching 50 years which is double the lifetime of current marchers.
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As I said before, just my $.02 and worth what you paid to read it. I'm not going to get angry at an activity that meant so much to me when I marched. On the field, It's not the same as it used to be, and that's okay. The kids are still busting ### every day to put out a show they can feel proud of, even if it's not "old school" drum corps. I will always support that.You're delusional if you really think that 99% of the "Old Timers" (T-Rex's) are paying money to watch "Marching Broadway Musical Theater" on a football field. It's mostly high school and college marching band kids and their parents. Former "Old School" Corps members and fans are so turned off at the current state of the art that they're not going anywhere near a show...........
And yes, I'm a former "Old School" member and I go to as many shows as I can every summer, and I wish I could go to more...
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So, I've been reading the debates concerning the future of the Cadets, the direction Phantom Regiment (my corps from the the mid 90's), and the direction that corps are moving themselves to. Do I like everything I see on the field? No. But on the same breath, when I marched in '97-'98, and the old-timers would show me videos from the late 70's, I was sometimes less than impressed.
The glory days are always the days when we marched. Just human nature to remember the emotions, good times, and coming of age that we all experienced when we were marching members. Same feelings that these kids get today.
The point of this nonsensical rambling is to say that the drum corps world is changing, but it is also staying the exact same as it has always been. Will the old-timers like where things are heading vs how it used to be? No, not as a rule. But guess what, I, along with 99% of the old timers will continue to pay for a ticket to go to shows at either a state of the art venue or some rickety country high school stadium. Why? To see the fire in the eyes of the performer, and to support the activity that shaped who each and every one of us are.
Just my $.02.
Worth what you paid to read it.
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I'm old.....and so are you. (Maybe)
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I think it has finally happened. I've turned into the guy who wishes drum corps would be what it used to be when I marched. Not that I don't like what's happening on the field with Bluecoats, Crown, BD, etc, but the emphasis on, dare I say, show band style design ideas has me wanting some straightforward, in your face, minimal props, bad@ss drum corps.
Music in Motion has been mentioned in The Cadets thread and I miss it. The performances are top notch, and I'll never stop going to shows, but d@mmit, I wanna see the above mentioned drum corps take the field (with helmets, shakos, etc) and throw down a show that just lets the crowd know what drum corps really was "back in the day."
Will it happen? Who knows? Is this latest incarnation of DCI just an experiment? Once again, who knows? I like it, but I liked the old stuff better.
$.02, get off my lawn.....my blood will get all worked up.!!!!