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Thanks for all the input, Yup the K 80's from Chops are still available, they got back to me really quickly, Renegades responded, so I'll keep trying for the Kanstul, All the lines I taught used Kanstuls, although we could never cough up the dough for Euphoniums the bari's blew easily, just like King's Zigmund!

Yup, forgot King's are two valved only Renegades Euphoniums, I thought I had a lead on one of the horns, but as of now, I am not getting any replys from the seller. Too bad.

Hello I'm interested in purchasing a three valved Euphonium in G , I prefer in order, King , Kastul and Deg. Nothing too beat up! Sven

I would like to see some pics and a cost for the Euphoniums,please