jbl
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It really depends on the time frame you're considering. But historically BD, Vanguard, Phantom, and Star have had good hornlines. Personally I have always liked Vanguard and Phantom since they have tended towards a greater presence in the lower voices. But there's many good hornlines out there, some of which don't get to do finals. And some of which don't do the DCA or DCI thing.
SCV?
I take it these are the years when the hornline wasn't known as Screaming Chicken Vanguard?
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man...wish the pic was bigger....there are so few from 84.
I see Peaches and Dave Brown in the back (or is that Igor??) Can't tell who the others are.
Sam that's Sam Cochrell, he was a Euphonium that came in just prior to first tour. He had marched with Julie Paul (the blonde in the photo) from the guard in Geneseo Knights if I recall correctly. At Geneseo they called him "Smurf".
You're right about Peaches (Veronica) being in the photo.
The girl in the front is Therese Freitas from the guard.
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I'll wear it to the local Drum Corps shows every year but that's about it. For some reason the ring seems to have grown smaller over the years and doesn't quite fit the same as it used to.
Hey the same thing happened to my pants too!
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I thought if you marched Muchachos it didn't matter what age you were?
As far as the 21 age I believe that it was linked to eligibility in the Boy Scouts' Explorer program (which many corps were associated with pre-DCI) which there was an age limit of 14 to 21 years of age.
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Oh yeah . . .
Back in the days when tube tops, dove shorts and drum corps were synonymous.
Giggidy
Speaking of tube tops...
(it looks better in the full image.)
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This is from Blue Devils tour in 1984.
Clipped off in the upper left is Dave Carico.
I'm in the front with my head turned (pink shirt).
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Are we talking about hair????
Doesn't anybody remember when BD's soprano line all had either curly or permed hair? Mike Quillen remembered. So shoot me for trying to bring back some Ol' skool.
Hey where's your ear cuff and the Jazz button in the dickie?
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This reminds me of a conversation I had on yahoo instant messenger the other day...
Him: yeah i tried auditioned for Phantom Regiment and got accepted, didnt have the financial means though
Him: subtract "tried" sorry about that
Me: you auditoned for pr and made it?
Him: yeah but not the lead trunpet line
Him: a tad bit too high for my current range
Me: I kinda have a hard to believing that
Him: right but i had school to do
Him: and they were just too far away
Me: right...
Me: so, how did you audition for them, did you send a tape?
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In the days before video tape we just used a simple audio tape to audition for a corps. At one time I remember hearing a story of a guy who faked his audition tape (I believe) for Blue Devils. He had someone else play the tape and sent it in as his own.
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Why? Like any lie of that nature...low self-esteem. Just my guess.
I'm also guessing that someone who would lie about Drum Corps on a resume would probably be the kind of person who lies about a lot of other things as well. I wouldn't trust their own name on that resume.
You're probably right about the name.
Lying about experience is not limited to Drum Corps. People have falsified their degreess as to where they went to college/university and what degree they actually earned.
And military experience is one of the worst for falsify personal history. Privates become captains, Good Conduct Medals become Medals of Honor, and those claiming combat experience at Hue outnumber the actual number of those who actually participated in the battle. My favorite lie is, "I was in Special Forces in Vietnam." When asked which unit they were attached too you get various answers that go along the line of, "well we were so secret and far behind enemy lines that we didn't have a unit designation."
Why people lie has to do with wanting to appear a bit better than they actually are. And if we're honest we'll admit that we've fudged a bit here and there in our lives. But in some cases some people just don't know limits and compulsively lie to make them self just that better than those around them. It's kind of like that skit from the film "The Secret Policeman's Ball" where the old guys are sitting around lying about how bad it was when they were younger. Eventually, the last guy has to claim it was so bad that his family was reduced to living in a shoe box in the road and eating hot gravel for dinner.
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In no particular order:
83 SCV
Having marched that show, thanks. But personally I would exclude the drum solo drill from it though.
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'80 SCV (as originally intended)
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I agree with you 100% as the kids say now a days "there were haters back then too".
If ya win too much people start to root for the underdog sooner or later....look at the Yankees. ...
#### Yankees
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In responding to another thread about the hashmarks incident, I become aware of how saddened I was by the mob mentality that seems to be more and more accepted and, to some degree, the rule at DCI events. This should be a friendly disagreement and discussion about what drum corps is and should be, but it has become unfriendly to a point where fans for unfavored corps feels fear for supporting them and supposed grown-up, "adult" males think it will be clever of them to insult 135 kids with a taunting sign.
So, let's pretend I'm the mother of a new member of Pacific Crest and I'm all excited to watch Div I finals with my son ... and all of this is going on around me!!! And I experience a corps getting booed, geered, insulted, gossiped about, etc. Do I come back? Do I allow my son to return to Pacific Crest next year knowing this is what he might experience if his corps does something unpopular?
All these same supposed "adult" males (there certainly are some females involved as well, but the majority and loudest are primarily males) are also the first ones to point at everyone ELSE when it comes to the reason that there are less corps and it's hard to find kids to march. Maybe if YOU made it a more friendly place where different opions are allowed and discussions about them are civil then, maybe, more first-timers and "checking it out for next year" parents will encourage their kids to participate.
Act like adults out there DC fans!!!
As a parent of three young children I can tell you booing at a DCI show is the least of my worries. There is more to be worried about coming across my television at night than the conduct of a few people at a live show.
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First: Santa Clara Vanguard 1983
Last: Concord Blue Devils 1985
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This means there can be more saxophones on the field!
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I'd just like to say that according to some rumors I heard.
The cavaliers did their bicycle technique to reduce knee damage. Apparently the straight-leg technique BD uses causes many people to have knee injuries after several years of marching BD.
Not trying to bag on BD, but that is just what I heard from people.
Note to self... have my knees examined because they're supposed to be bad from marching in BD.
On another note, having gone from SCV to BD I found BD's style to be more relaxed, not necessarily easier, (I also spent a lot more time marching backward in BD compared to SCV).
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Don;t confuse a true limp with looking like I'm trying to walk whilst suspended by the floss up my butt crack, Jerry!
I still enjoy telling teh story of my birthday snuggie, however...qute funny how the vets gave me the time to move my stuff outta the way before they pounced...
I thought they did that because they had bent a lead pipe from a previous experience.
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The thrill of winning, adrenaline, and the desire to NOT miss performing the show one last time probably ade her not even feel the pain at that point.
for some reason, I was limping pretty badly as we approached the stadium for finals in 84....the moment I saw the crowd tho, the ain went away.
Hey Sam I thought you limped most of the season from your underwear being up around your ears? Not just finals.
^0^
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First paragraph from an interview I did with him at BD's 50th anniversary celebration. He didn't mention Kingsmen, but I remember someone on DCP posting a photo of him on the field with the corps in the background. According to the following paragraph, the only time not accounted for is the period between his aging out of SCV in 1972 and his coming on board with BD in October of 1973. Anyone have anything further on this?
<<Wayne Downey, perhaps the best known arranger and instructor in all of drum corps, has been with the Blue Devils from October of 1973. Prior to that, he marched with Santa Clara Vanguard from the end of 1969, filling in a horn position when the corps returned from its Nationals tour. He stayed with SCV until he aged out in 1972, not just marching his final year, but teaching the brass section as well.>>
Wayne was teaching San Jose State University's Marching Band. I remember him showing me a photo. It was him standing on the lower rungs of a ladder used for conducting (with hair down to his shoulders) talking to the UC Berkeley's Drum Major.
I wonder if the photo someone thinks is Wayne with Anaheim might be SJSU, or, a number of high schools he's worked with along the West Coast? [edit: I've just seen the later post, so I stand corrected].
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Applause meters.
Now where's that "cheesy" emoticon?
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Count me among those who would love to have a big show back in Florida (Tampa or Orlando). Moving to Tampa two years ago from Rockford, Ill., has been a bit of a shock to the system!
However, I think there is some exaggeration going on here. You can't possibly live anywhere in Florida (except maybe the Keys) and be more than 12 hours from Jacksonville, Ala. And Tampa to Atlanta is about 7 hours.
I don't live in the Keys and Jacksonville, Ala. is 10 1/2 to 11 hours. Atlanta is nine to 10 hours.
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In 1983 SCV did a half-time show for the United States Football League Oakland Invaders.
It was pretty funny watching this guy on the sidelines offering a mic for the soloists during the show.
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In '83 & '84 we (The Glassmen) stayed there in Rome, NY and again few years later, with Phantom Regiment. That place was creepy. I remember one guy from Glassmen screaming at lights out, "Damian!!!"
Yes, those were the days!! b**bs
Was that Marcy Correctional Center?
Because it was more than just an insane asylum. It was the state prison hospital for the insane. This is were they kept Berkowitz (son of Sam) when he was first inprisoned.
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These photos were taken by my grandfather who went to DCI Midwest in 1984. Sorry for the quality, but these were taken before digital cameras.
OMG Could We Have Been So Young?
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