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why only from the top groups more? that's like saying, the other groups have no talent so they can't play these pieces either?I read most of the comments in this thread. A few of my own:1) I'm surprised it took this long. The reality is that the top groups already attract the most talent, draw the most fans, sell the most souvenirs, and are the most attractive to outside sponsors. In a rough economy, they are going to make sure (indeed, their management has the responsibility to make sure) that they are being correspondingly compensated. Drum corps isn't a completely zero-sum game, but nor is it a rapidly growing one, so this necessarily takes something from other corps.
2) If you think that's unfair, consider the converse: what would be the attendance at a show like San Antonio or Atlanta if ONLY the non-G7 corps participated? 25%? 35%? 50%? If you guessed anything under 68% (7/22), then why do you think it's "fair" to require the G7 to subsidize corps that cannot draw their own audience?
3) The G7 don't want to kill DCI. If they wanted to leave to form their own circuit, they could do so. They've chosen to try to do this within the DCI structure. The most likely reason is that they hope that other corps will someday succeed at a similar level. 5 years ago, Crown would not have drawn enough audience to earn a place in the G7. Today, they obviously do. It's pretty easy to imagine a resurgent Madison in a few years drawing enough fans to justify growing G7 into G8.
4) It's entirely possible that this hurts the G7 competitively while rewarding them financially. If, say, Blue Stars are working all day, every day on their field show while the Bluecoats have to devote time to other music, encores, "anything goes" performances, etc., then who's going to claim that 6th place spot at Finals?
5) If I were forced to choose between a Saturday regional with the Top 22, and a Sunday G7 show, I'd pick the Sunday show. It's not that there's nothing to like in the non-G7 shows - I sit through all of quarters and semis each year, and there always are a couple of gems - but I'd value encores, concert pieces, etc. from the top groups more.
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I have got to stop worrying about this and get on with my day. So, I have made a decision that helps me as of right now. A huge fan of Cadets shows for the past 2.5 decades, and a yearly financial contributor, my check will not be written this May. My love of Cadet performances (as well as other corps) is out ranked by my love of the activity and desire to see it grow, not diminish. I will still help kids march, but not write any more checks to corps.
George, have you forgotten your roots and early drum corps experiences? Its about the performances and the kids, lots of kids, not just those lucky enough to wear maroon and gold.
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Can we just imagine if these G(greed)7 do this, what will happen to the Open Class corps? I'm all for added events, but at who's expense? the oc corps that struggle already to survive? FREAKIN unbelievable.......
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Here YOU go again.
You keep going by DCI's website and you have been shown repeatedly that they do not update their site in a timely manner. Do you not now see City Sound as an active Open Class Corps on DCI's site? Here I am the Corps Director telling you that we passed and we will be out this year and you are still making silly comments. What is your purpose?
I will tell you what, just wait and see.
I have heard of armchair quarterbacks in football and have even met a few. I didn't know they had armchair drum majors in Drum Corps.
dci updated their website with all the new and re-emerging corps, Genesis, Forte, Platinum, Spokane, Spartans, so you can not really say they don't update in a timely manner. I do see you as an active oc corps. we all know you passed evaluation, just wondering if it's for competition or exhibition. DCI will put you on their site as active once you pass, yes, just not on schedule if exhibition, always done in the past that way. which shows will you be competing in? good luck to you, for reals, was just wonderin, no silly comments, a fair question.
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We are good.
you must be doing exhibition only? there is nothing about your schedule on the dci website
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I noticed on the DCI website that Mystikal isn't listed as participating in any shows this season? Any word on what their status is?
as of today they are NOT even listed as a corps on DCI website...are they done for good?
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I may be wrong, but I do believe that instructors teach different Corps who compete against each other In all Divs. of DCA and DCI.
Dean
PS It is great to see the Floats back engaged in this Activity once again. :plain:
I do not think i have heard of the same instructor being with two competing corps in the same division. Can you name whom?
and yes, thank you VK for bringing the Floats back
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good for you City Sound!
How are the Floats going to teach two lines that are competing against each other, and how can they be caption heads at 2 different corps? NOT tryin to start something here, just am curious and i believe it's a valid question, i'm sure there are mor than just me who are curious. How will that work? how is it fair to both lines?
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Start small. That is why we started SDCA. Look at our web site www.theSDCA.org
in sdca any thoughts or plans on moving into other parts of the country? maybe West? would be good territory to start exploring
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I'm confused...is Forte formally Memphis or not? I thought they clarified that Forte is a start up corps.
Just curious
from what i understand they are a brand new corps, yes the staff was at memphis sound, but started their own corps
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Thanks for that, Mayra.
Great to see Spartans back, Forte making the transition from Memphis, Southern Texas with a corps, and another corps in the Carolinas.
Let's see if Spokane & City Sound can join 'em!!!
definitely thank you for that Mayra, guess my next question is what shows are these corps going to be competing in? are they listed on your websites or better yet, when is dci going to add you to the schedule? welcome to OC
so any one know what is going on with spokane and city sound? not a word aobut them
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Well, you do have to give those in "power" some time to contact the corps and then make changes/additions to the website and figure out when/where the corps will be performing on tour. I believe the final meeting took place late in the week.
that's good news indeed, can you say which 4 out of the 6 listed on the dci website waiting for evaluation are you referring to?
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I dont want to take the wind out of the corps' announcements, but looks like we can add 4 corps to the Open Class schedule!!
you must be associated with dci correct and "know" something we do not? where are they on the schedule? are you hinting or just come out say it make the announcement
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Just out of curiosity....have you seen VK recently?
obviously, this person has not. how was the corps director disrespectful to you 3rd&10? what do you want, a public apology?
need to go back and read up again, no more division 3 corps, where you been?
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good for you guys did you get dci approval yet?
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seriously???????????????
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8/5 - Kitchener ONT was originally the South Lyon MI show, still an Open Class show. Wonder how many will cross the border for this one?
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Because of conflicts at Oxnard High School this weekend, Mystikal's March 21st brass rehearsal will be held at the "old" Oxnard High School campus in the Oxnard Police Activities League facilities. Registration starts at 9:00 and rehearsal starts at 10:00.
Oxnard PAL is located at 350 South K Street, Oxnard, CA 93030. Nearest main cross street is 5th.
We have openings in all brass sections so come on out, bring your horn and meet the staff.
Greg Ramsey
Mystikal Youth Arts Organization
do you not do like other groups and provide the instruments/horns?
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Besides the usual chartered bus and the plane ride home, VK will be touring via train from CA to TX this year.
wow that is very cool
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when will we all know if you have been approved and evaluated by dci and put on the schedule? good luck to you
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D.W. Rutledge Stadium
Address is 900 S. Seguin Rd. in Converse, Texas 78109
serious?
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We have updated the dates for our rehearsals.
Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow.
Villa Park HS - 10am to 5pm
IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO JOIN us for a great summer. Come tour the nation as the Velvet Knights Drum & Bugle Corps, 2009 DCI finalist, make their way back, ONCE AGAIN, to the DCI World Championships in Indianapolis, IN this summer.
Join us on the train, on the bus and on the plane for our summer tour.
Visit our website at http://www.vkyao.org for all information or email us at VK email address
what do you mean by your "train, bus and plane" statement?
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I believe they purchased only trumpets. I know VK plays on a full line of Kanstuls, unless they have changed.
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my question now is, since it becomes a 2 day event, what happens to their I&E's that was supposed to go on that Sunday?
New tour concept for 2011 proposed
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