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1 minute ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Looked at some of this persons other FB posts and… nevermind..
yup
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51 minutes ago, Lead said:
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11 hours ago, RiverCityAndTroopersFan said:
This is a just a rumor and I have no verification of trustworthiness but: https://www.facebook.com/Berffa
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1 hour ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
If judges are so experienced and expert in the captions that they judge, why would they need to go back and adjust numbers? Seems like a system ripe for manipulation in case a Corps places in the “wrong” position.
They still don't get to see the full recap, only their personal numbers up until the point they have to verify.
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9 minutes ago, spacewill said:
For a corps that is used to going last or next to last and always being the darling of the show, going first is absolutely a huge impact for the first half of the season. Maybe it doesn't impact the scores, but playing early for a half filled stadium, before intermission, and when the sun is out impacts the MMs. From someone who had a kid march with a Corp who started the season marching first and then transitioned to being after intermission with the big boys, it 100% impacts your motivation, confidence, and excitement. Maybe the MMs see it as motivation or some say, no way they want to be part of the return journey, but it definitely isn't just an "Oh well, no impact" kind of thing.
To be fair though, SCV's first half of tour will almost assuredly be all California/DCIP shows where they will have no issue being a crowd favorite, and will likely only travel east leading into San Antonio. I'd think the effects will be very minimal.
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On 9/28/2023 at 1:57 PM, Jeff Ream said:
wide right eh?
THE LACES WERE IN! THEY WERE IN!!!!
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On 7/19/2023 at 1:37 AM, greenland said:
Perhaps it is time to have a DCI finals without the Colts logo dominating the field during finals. It tak. es away from the performing corps, videos, and general scenario. It is almost as though you guys can do your thing, however you will know we are omnipresent. Considering the Crowds and $$ that DCI infuses into Indy we could have one night when the field is ours.
It's sewn into the turf.
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They are REALLY #### good live. Saw them the last two nights.
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9 hours ago, Tim K said:
For DCI, domed stadiums ensure we’ll have finals. As someone who remembers well 1994 Foxboro where there was a deluge at quarterfinals that cancelled half the show, rivaled only by the pounding rains of 2018 Allentown, domed stadiums are appreciated. However when it comes to football and domed stadiums in places like Buffalo or Foxboro: the worse the weather, the better they do. Some of Tom Brady and the Patriots greatest games were in subzero temperatures and blizzards. The Bills have had some great foul weather games. New York and Chicago fans like inclement weather too. ⚡️❄️🌪️💨🌨️
Don't forget we had a literal tornado cause a stage collapse and multiple fatalities in Indianapolis in 2011 while DCI Finals was literally happening inside Lucas Oil Stadium with no delay.
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1 hour ago, kevingamin said:
During one said retreat:
Glassmen contras - "Contras! 20 step interval!"
Madison contras - "TWENTY?!?!?"
We didn't win the show, but we did win something that night. I guess.
1998 retreat in somewhere, Midwest:
Glassmen Horn Sergeant A.F.: "GLASSMEN HORNLINE - HORNS DOWN IN 4... 1, 2, ready, move... 1-2-3-4!"
Cavaliers (next to us) Horn Sergeant: "CAVALIERS HORNLINE - HORNS DOWN IN 64... 1, 2, ready, move... 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-190-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35-36-37-38-39-40-41-42-43-44-45-46-47-48-49-50-51-52-53-54-55-56-57-58-59-60-61-62-63-64"
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2 hours ago, drumcat said:
Hi Jeff,
You cannot ask any judge to make a cheating call from the box. We both know that.
The ensemble cheating can only be tackled by not allowing field instruments to be individually mic'd. End of story. If that's a non-starter, I can always make a senior louder and a freshman not. Marching band has to decide if they want to allow the well-funded bands the chance to cheat, or if they prohibit the obvious temptation. The purpose of shoving a little mic in everyone's bell is literally to have that option. The ethical question is whether you do it equally or not, and no one can tell.
Thus, reinforcement of field instruments individually is always effectively cheating.
No, you don't strip search kids, and dude… you should avoid saying that out loud.
All that needs to happen are some PSAs in the building. Tell the kids:
BOA Prohibits Individual Field Marching instruments with wireless microphones
Xerox that 50 times, tape it up around the buildings. Then every kid knows that if they're wearing a battery pack, they're cheating. Usage is event DQ; no exception. Zero directors would risk it, as it would mean they'd get fired.
As for the sampling stuff, it is difficult. But you knew the WGI rule. One action, one sound, volume range via performer. Have the director of every entering band sign a paper saying that they are in compliance with the rule and concept, and if they violate it they will face disqualification.
If you drop the wirelessly mic'd field instruments, the "cheating" aspects will disappear. If you program a chord onto one note, you're not going to get caught. But if the kids know the rules, it's always unlikely the adults will have them cheat.
Finally, let's consider where we're at.
BOA has found that this is so common or so obnoxious, they've called it out publicly. It violates the spirit of what they're doing. The point is that you don't have to always catch people to be effective. Sometimes, you just have to remove the temptation.
And those same kids, in the parking lot, in warm-up, when they watch other kids on the field, YouTube videos, etc... will say, "Why are those kids wearing wireless packs?" to their director... and it will get reported.
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On 5/13/2023 at 12:02 AM, Jeff Ream said:
"remember that part you USED to play here?"
The worst words to hear during rehearsal...
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11 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
but how to enforce?
having run watches for indoor percussion with the one sound one keystroke rule, unless you're right on top of the synth/laptop players, you truly have no way to see what is and isn't happening. and in order to see those performers, you literally have to be on the floor....a hazard to the judge and the performers.
same thing in band. you can't expect judges in the box to try and police this...thats not their job. nor should it be. there was a famously rumored and pretty confirmed story about a Jabba sound effect in DCI 15 years ago before it was legal and a corps running sound from the box before it became legal. and both only came to light because other groups found out and brought it up.
so now you'll have the battle of "this group did, that group did"....and i expect little change.
not that i like the super re-enforced sound. i still say to this day parts of Crown 19 were so over enhanced i was painful an when it was just the brass, the voulme was noticably lower.and they were rewarded for it too.
Easy to enforce, the same way DCI self-polices... you hang a penalty out there and let the other groups (who are also competing against you) report violations they see. After the first group gets dinged, it will stop happening.
For reference, see: Military Park, 2015 Prelims, Blue Devils 😆
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1 minute ago, Lance said:
Specifically, here's what banned:
- All music from traditional wind and percussion instruments or electronic instruments must be performed by a student live and in real time.
- The use of sampled, prerecorded, or sequenced sounds of woodwind, brass, and/or percussion instruments is not permitted.
But notice that it is not "banned" (yet). This doc reads that it is a "suggested self-policing guideline."
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Wow. So many responses from non-band directors when the OP asked for responses from band directors.
Decently long-time Indiana band director here. ISSMA State Finalist.I encourage the heck out of kids who want to audition for a drum corps. Have had nothing but positive results of kids coming back and being eager to help and bring everyone up to a higher level around them. When a kid asks if they should audition, i encourage them and tell them to take a car load of friends with them.
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On 12/28/2022 at 3:34 PM, jthomas666 said:
Reducing the length of the show might result in lower licensing fees...but even then it's hardly a sure thing, given the prevalence of chop and bop.
Licensing permission to arrange isn't even that expensive. Typically between $300-$600 per piece for a season.
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On 12/10/2022 at 5:17 PM, musicteacher said:
Holland is on point. Add Covid and the new normal is vastly different for most corps that it was as recently as five years ago.
Who is actually "adding COVID" as any kind of realistic deterrent or threat at this point? As more info continues to come out the risk for college-age kids (really anyone under 65) decreases more and more.
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21 hours ago, C.Holland said:
indoor winds cost much less to operate than a drum corps. Thus lower fees to the students. I think there's more to it than this though. 20+ years ago how many activities did schools have? Some sports, some band/choir, some art/theatre. I marched in 96-01. Options for students were band, choir, a few sports, one or two theatre shows, an art club, and not much else.
Now there's so many options, theatre, sports that are more accessible (hockey, lacrosse, etc etc etc). Sports camps, music camps, arts camps... My first year teaching open class (back then it was Div 2/3) i had students who had band, indoor drumline, hockey, baseball, ballet, musicals, and religion based performance groups as well. The amount of activities has steadily grown since then. So getting time for only truly interested students was problematic.
Right. My secondary point was also that with lots of corps kids participating in so many more winter competitive ensembles, the need to see the kids ever 3 weeks or so at a drum corps camp like we went to in the 90s is diminished. You KNOW those kids are out doing good things with their winter ensembles, so you don't need them to drive/fly to drum corps camp (and go through the expense of finding a rehearsal site and flying all of the staff in) when you can just send out rewrites of the opener and ask for videos to come in.
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On 12/5/2022 at 1:11 PM, C.Holland said:
shows require much more time to assemble. its not just march, play, drum, spin. Its layered demand. So you need more time to assemble it all. Also less time spent on school grounds equals more savings to the budget, and less time requiring busses/trucks equals more savings. (they're rented as one lump sum with a mileage estimate tacked on so its costs the same whether its moves or sits)
Not only that, but the proliferation of winter WGI-based programs has skyrocketed nationwide. Many kids are doing high school, college, or corps-sponsored Winter Guard, Winter Percussion, and Winter Winds ensembles. The availability of members in winter time as well as the "need" for the drum corps to keep kids involved has likely diminished because of now-constant exposure to year-round marching arts.
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On 11/29/2022 at 10:29 AM, DAvery said:
I did a band transcription of Cage's 4'22" a few years ago. Personally, I don't think it would transcribe well for all brass.
Is that like a prequel to John Cage's 4'33" ?
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On 11/17/2022 at 8:02 AM, cixelsyd said:
What was the crowd size for finals?
Very big
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3 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
Implied is right. Not exactly placing blame on LOS staff but not accepting any either. So how do they explain this happening at other venues during their events? Everyone is ####ed up but them?
LOS only had 7 scanning devices available. It was 100% not DCI.
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The End of DCI on PBS
in Historical Junior Corps Discussions
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Trying to equate drum corps using themes for a show with not broadcasting on PBS is kinda silly, right?