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    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    20 minutes ago, ebo said:

    Jeff I will give my money to whom I want too.  You don't know me or even have any idea of the money I was about to drop on this corp so mind your own.  If Sean King is made collertal damage because of GH actions then I have a right to my own. Believe me I know a lot of the donors and they are not happy right now. They all have the upmost respect for Sean and this would be a very big mistake on the organization to not right this wrong to him and his family.  

    NAME ONE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT WOULDN'T HAVE SUSPENDED HIM IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

     

    Congrats...you have money.  

     

    Donate it to his legal fees to clear his name.

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    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    1 minute ago, ebo said:

    Or she never told him which is the correct answer because if you knew Sean you would know his character.   

    I guess that means you were around her and Sean during her time at YEA to know exactly what was said or not said.  Maybe she used not so damning words when talking about the harassment that was taken like every single other YEA employee complaining about GH and he thought it was more of the same.

     

    Point is, you nor I were not around every day in the office.  You can't 100% say for sure what she said or he said.  

    I hope he is found innocent, but her allegations MUST BE LOOKED INTO.

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    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    Just now, ebo said:

    No it means that what George did was not in the open where others saw it can could even know what he was doing.  In fact look at all the stories and read them.  Most were where he told them out or to a hotel room...etc.   How would the YEA people see this?  Don't make them victims too.  I have spoken to YEA employees and they all said they didn't see any of this at work. That is not saying that George didn't do it nor am I defending him.  I am defending a person who should not be another victim of this, Sean King. 

    If you want to raise holy hell, either contact the news reporter (which it appears you have not yet) to yell and scream your point and show her the truth, contact the victim and shake her down for the facts, or let the board handle it.  DCP isn't going to help you with getting the truth out since it isn't a news organization.

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    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    6 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

     No. I believe you have it right.. It was reported that Sean King was chosen a few days ago as " Interim ". Corps DIrector there at The Cadets. But he was supposed to be Dan Acheson's principal contact person there at the Cadets as the Cadets were on a heavy, tight schedule to put together lots of things before the end of April for DCI for DCI's assurances that the Cadets were in a stable position organizationally to allow the marchers to go out on tour. Today, at this moment, if the info is accurate regarding Sean King's suspension, the Cadets have no Executive Director for their Drum Corps. Naturally this needs to change, and FAST, as the clock is ticking, and the Cadets move ins are less than a few weeks now away. Ugh. Not good. Not good  here at the moment at all. And here I was yesterday, feeling pretty good about the chances of the Cadets emerging from this ok... Now, with the removal of 2 Corps Directors at the Cadets within less than 2 weeks time, the instability of the Corps at the moment is regrettaby most unfortunate... most especially to the 2018 Cadets marchers. They were blindsided by all this, and don't deserve this at all.

    No, he was interim CEO.  Rich Hammond is the director.

    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    21 minutes ago, ebo said:

    Like I said he is an amazing person and he does not deserve this.   

     

    20 minutes ago, ebo said:

    I believe Sean.  if you knew him you would too.  

    I totally understand your frustration, I haven't interacted with him personally, but from what I've gathered from a far and from others he seems to be a man of character.

    2 things I see could have happened.  She didn't mention anything to him and made that part up.  It's possible.

    The other thing I see could have happening, she may have just said as a small concern (in his eyes) that George is making her a little uncomfortable, and his response was that GH is innocent, he is that way with everyone.  

    Do I believe he purposely brushed aside a major concern of hers.  NO.  

    But, it may have come off as a small plea for help, and innocently enough, he looked to make her feel comfortable rather than bringing the issue up with GH.  It is completely understandable, but with ALL of these stories and allegations and the alleged victims of his horrendous behavior, sometimes the bad optics are going to win, and right now a man of high moral character is (hopefully temporarily) is paying the price of another. 

     

    I understand you give $$,$$$'s of dollars, and you may withhold that.  BUT...put yourselves in the new board's shoes.  What are they supposed to do when a current employee is shown in a negative light?  The board can't condemn GH on one hand and allow him to stay on.  That's horrible press, and I guarantee you the PR firm working with them said they at least have to suspend him.

     

    In the end, we have to hope the full truth (no matter what it is) comes to light.

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    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    20 minutes ago, ebo said:

    This is not true.  Everyone that knows Sean King knows he would have reported it in 2 seconds.  I also know other instructors and former YEA employees that I have asked if they saw any of this and everyone of them has said no. There are at least 10 YEA employees that never saw George do any of this.   I am not defending George, he will have his day in court I am sure.  If they make Sean King a victim of what Hopkins is alleged of doing then I and many others will never donate another penny to this organization again. This man has the most integrity of anyone I know and everyone who is close to the situation knows this.   This would be yet another tragedy  to an innocent person. If Sean says he did not get told, believe it.  I hope the donors all take a stand and not let this mans good name be damaged.  I have personally given 10's of thousands to this organization.  This will be a huge mistake to make this man the next victim.  

    It's not the organization making a victim of Sean King...why would that impact your donation?

    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    53 minutes ago, BRASSO said:

     Your snark skills are more impressive than DCA's brief statement. But thats not saying much, I know.

    I do agree with you however that the DCA statement is not good.  He was officially their director for the last couple of years, even though it was really being directed by someone else, it still does concern a high profile person in a very recent past champion.  Maybe its a mixture that all of the alleged incidents happened with Cadets and not C2, and all of them (that have been reported) occurred before the creation of C2, but probably could have had a little more bite to the statement, but then again, DCA does not have full-time staff as far as I know unlike DCI.

    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    1 minute ago, cybersnyder said:

    I think they will initially increase, but when it becomes apparent that the money is going to pay for Hopkins-related lawsuits, I think they will stop. Yes, that involves speculation that there will be lawsuits, but I don't see how there won't be lawsuits.

    While I don't doubt there may be a lawsuit or three out of this, from what I read, most of the woman just wanted him out of the corps.

    Also, even more reason for them to get a lot of money from everyone.  No one will want to see the new YEA suffer for the sins of their former leader.

    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    5 minutes ago, JMS1995 said:

    The man Beyer said she confided in, Sean King, last week was named as Hopkins’ interim replacement.

     

    ...stunned if this is true.  OK, board of directors #2 out... time for panel #3!

    I can't see the article since apparently I've viewed too many free articles, but Sean King was put in place by either the old board or by GH.  While this definitely not good optics, his title is interim after all.  

    The Cadets and GH history of sexual abuse (news article)

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    24 minutes ago, cybersnyder said:

    I'm still pessimistic that the organization will survive - just being realistic. But, this direction does give them a fighting chance to make it. This will be a battle fought by the leadership and new board, the performers will have no impact on that battle. Hopefully they can stay focused and put out a great show this year. It's very wise to do a financial review and make sure that a successful season is possible. It looks like they're doing things right. IMO, the biggest potential peril is that donations dry up. Not because alumni, I assume they're the greatest source of donations, don't support the organization, but if lawsuits happen people don't want to donate money to help pay off lawsuits, they want to support the corps. That's my analysis from the outside. Hope they make it, killing the current BoD is the best move I've seen so far.

    How so?  Cadets have a long history which means lots of alumni and historically they have always donated very well.  In fact, I think this will encourage them to donate as well as bring more alumni and other Cadet fans out of the woodwork to support the corps.

     

    Everyone likes to say this will kill the corps.  Remember, as every news article has stated, drum corps has a small following and eventually it will fade (but not forgotten).

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